Omega the Unknown
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 01, 2002 at 20:51:23:

You show FF 405 coiming in the midst of OU 9 on Omega II's 
chronology.  In FF 405, he mentions fighting Ruby Tuesday.  
Ruby Tuesday does not appear in OU #9, but does appear in the 
Defenders issues that conclude the story.  I notice there is no 
chronology for Ruby Tuesday, btw.

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Re: Omega the Unknown
Posted by Russ Chappell on May 05, 2002 at 10:23:02:
In Reply to: Omega the Unknown
posted by Scott Hutchins on May 01, 2002 at 20:51:23:

We do have a listing for Ruby, on the R page. Where is the last 
name "Tuesday" revealed?

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Re: Omega the Unknown
Posted by Paul Bourcier on May 10, 2002 at 21:39:36:
In Reply to: Re: Omega the Unknown
posted by Russ Chappell on May 05, 2002 at 10:23:02:

The full codename is actually Ruby Thursday (not to be confused 
with the Stones' song "Ruby Tuesday.").  Her actual name is Thursday 
Rubinstein, as revealed in Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, 
Vo. 1, #5.

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Re: Omega the Unknown
Posted by steve george on August 04, 2002 at 01:44:46:
In Reply to: Re: Omega the Unknown
posted by Paul Bourcier on May 10, 2002 at 21:39:36:

I was a big fan of the omega the unknown series and was sorry to 
see it be cancelled. I never read the defenders issues that ended 
the series. Could you please let me know what issues those were so 
I can fulfill one of childhood dreams!

Thanks!
Excelsior!
Steve George 

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Re: Omega the Unknown
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:37:28:
In Reply to: Re: Omega the Unknown
posted by Russ Chappell on May 05, 2002 at 10:23:02:

It's Ruby Thursday, sorry.  Marvel Universe says her real name is 
Thursday Rubinstein, For Omega to say anything about Ruby Thursday,m 
as he does in FF 405, is odd, since she first encounters Omega in OU 
#10 and he has no idea who she is, even though she causes his death.

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Not Brand Ecchs
Posted by Mike on May 04, 2002 at 00:53:09:

Was browsing the legend and didn't see "Not Brand Ecchs" included. 
Was one of my childhood favorites.

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Re: Not Brand Ecchs
Posted by Russ Chappell on May 05, 2002 at 10:25:14:
In Reply to: Not Brand Ecchs
posted by Mike on May 04, 2002 at 00:53:09:

Although the debate has raged for decades over this, we've taken 
the rather controversial view that Not Brand Ecchs are not part of 
the Marvel Universe. Sorry.

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Professor Charles Xavier
Posted by Kristoffer Infante on May 07, 2002 at 16:30:26:

I love Charles Xavier! I think he's the coolest and best character 
ever in Marvel Comics! I'm his biggest fan! 

I just want to know some of his appearances in other comics during 
the X-Men's five-years hiatus (1970-1975). I know he appeared in 
MARVEL TEAM-UP (1972), AVENGERS #110-111 (1973), CAPTAIN AMERICA 
#172-175 (1974), DEFENDERS #15-16 (1974), and FANTASTIC FOUR ANNUAL 
#4 (1975), but I wanted to know if he appeared in other issues that 
I missed. Is it true he appeared in AVENGERS #88 (1971), SHANNA THE 
SHE-DEVIL #5 (1973), and ADVENTURE INTO FEAR #20 (1973)? 

Again, I'm a huge fan of Xavier's and would like to meet anyone who 
knows or has any of the above comic issues in question. Thanks!

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Re: Professor Charles Xavier in the 66-Giant Size 1 Gap
Posted by Bounty Hunter X on May 08, 2002 at 14:41:51:
In Reply to: Professor Charles Xavier
posted by Kristoffer Infante on May 07, 2002 at 16:30:26:

Everythign that you've ever wanted to know about the gap between 
X-Men 66 and Giant Sized X-Men 1 can be found in the great article 
by Peter Luzifer and Prime Eternal at 
http://www.uncannyxmen.net

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H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
Posted by Jeremy H  on May 07, 2002 at 23:15:20:

yes i have been trying to find out about this comic book i have . it 
is called THE HULK ON THE RAMPAGE  and it is not the regular size of 
a comic book its maybe giant size but its paper back also . and in 
the top left corner it has the number 5. and also says below that 
100 page collection special . i have had this comic since i was 7 
now i am 21 and i just wanted to know if its worth anything or 
something about it thats interesting its just that i have had a 
good while . its in ok condtion i read it a long time ago and its 
pretty cool . so please someone help thanks.

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Re: H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
Posted by BobMM on May 09, 2002 at 16:33:34:
In Reply to: H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
posted by Jeremy H  on May 07, 2002 at 23:15:20:

I believe that what you've got there is MARVEL TREASURY EDITION #5. 
This was a series of really wonderful tabloid sized reprint books 
from the 1970s.

www.milehighcomics.com reports that it is worth $50 in New/Mint 
condition.

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Re: H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:34:15:
In Reply to: Re: H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
posted by BobMM on May 09, 2002 at 16:33:34:

Does anyone have any recommendations for keeping Treasury Editions 
in good shpe?  I have three and they go on my bookshelf for want of 
a better way to store them.

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Re: H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
Posted by Brian C. Saunders on May 15, 2002 at 19:30:38:
In Reply to: Re: H U L K ? is this a rare edition.
posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:34:15:

Bag them in Treasury bags and store them in magazine boxs with 
the spine up.  They fit perfectly that way.

Brian

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Correction on Red Skull II
Posted by John Mc Donagh on May 08, 2002 at 14:21:27:

  The story from Captain America's Weird Tales#74 cannot serve as 
the first appearance of the second Red Skull, as that story turns 
out to be a dream of Captain America's. (He dreams that the Red Skull 
drags him down to Hell for a confrontation-it was Captain America's 
WEIRD TALES after all.) 
   However, Captain America Comics#61, which had a Red Skull 
appearance might serve as the first appearance, as it was released 
in 1947-a time when the original Red Skull was said to have been in 
suspended animation.

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Spider-Man: Blue #1
Posted by Paul Bourcier on May 10, 2002 at 21:33:40:

I've just read Spider-Man: Blue #1 and am under the impression that 
most of it was seen previously in ASM 40-41, but that some of the 
story consists of continuity implants.  I don't have the original 
stories and am going by the synopses in Official Marvel Index to the 
Amazing Spider-Man #2.  So I'm counting on you chronologists out 
there to let us know how new material in SM:B 1 weaves into ASM 
40-41, page by page and panel by panel.  Any takers?

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Inferno
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:50:49:

Is the list given in Wizard chronological?  It would be odd if it is, 
since Cloak and Dagger #4 is third or fourth from last, and yet it 
claims to be the finale right on the cover.  Wasn't there an aftermath 
in MCP with two old guys talking about what went on?  Maybe that was 
for another crossover, but I remember reading it in the store and 
don't have it.

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Re: Inferno
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 12, 2002 at 21:37:49:
In Reply to: Inferno
posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:50:49:

What Wizard list?

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Re: Inferno
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 14, 2002 at 23:34:49:
In Reply to: Re: Inferno
posted by Andy Holcombe on May 12, 2002 at 21:37:49:

I don't recall which issue appeared in, but I know I own it, so 
that limits it to between 13 and 45, but here it is, with two 
additions at the end:

Inferno (Marvel)
X-Terminators 1, 2, The Avengers 298, Power Pack 42, The Uncanny 
X-Men 239, X-Terminators 3, X Factor, 35, Daredevil 262, The New 
Mutants 71, The Amazing Spider-Man 311, The Avengers 299, The 
Uncanny X-Men 240, Fantastic Four 322, Power Pack 43, Peter Parker 
the Spectacular Spider-Man 146, X Factor 36, X-Terminators 4, 
Daredevil 263, Web of Spider-Man 47, The New Mutants 72, The 
Amazing Spider-Man 312, The Avengers 300, The Uncanny X-Men 241,
Fantastic Four 323, Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man 147, 
X Factor 37, Excalibur 6, Web of Spider-Man 48, The Amazing 
Spider-Man 313, The New Mutants 73, Power Pack 44, The Uncanny 
X-Men 242, Fantastic Four 324, X Factor 38, Peter Parker the 
Spectacular Spider-Man 148, Daredevil 265, Excalibur 7, Cloak 
and Dagger Volume 3, 4; The Uncanny X-Men 243, X Factor 39, 
Damage Control 4, X-Factor Annual 4

I tried reading this about five years ago, but I got bogged down 
with school and bogged out of comics.  I believe the last part I 
read was Daredevil 263.  There didn't seem to be any noticeable 
error.  I'm planning to read them all now, though.

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Re: Inferno
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 16, 2002 at 17:05:31:
In Reply to: Re: Inferno
posted by Scott Hutchins on May 14, 2002 at 23:34:49:

Wizard also noted that Inferno was the last major X-over to involve 
the rest of the Marvel Universe along with the X-titles.  That was 
before Onslaught of course, which I didn't know anything about until 
late last year, since the only Marvel I bought between around 1995 
and last year was Peter Parker: Spider-Man Annual '99.

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Re: Inferno
Posted by mikeo' on May 13, 2002 at 13:57:12:
In Reply to: Inferno
posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:50:49:

> Is the list given in Wizard chronological?  It would be odd if 
it is, since Cloak and Dagger #4 is third or fourth from last, and 
yet it claims to be the finale right on the cover.  Wasn't there 
an aftermath in MCP with two old guys talking about what went on?  
Maybe that was for another crossover, but I remember reading it 
in the store and don't have it.

I'm not sure what issue, but I think the story about two men 
talking about Inferno was a back up story in an Avengers Annual. 
Can anyone back that up?

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Re: Inferno
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 13, 2002 at 22:37:51:
In Reply to: Re: Inferno
posted by mikeo' on May 13, 2002 at 13:57:12:

That's from the third story of X-Factor Annual #4 (the Atlantis 
Attacks issue)

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Re: Inferno
Posted by OnionMan on May 15, 2002 at 01:11:36:
In Reply to: Inferno
posted by Scott Hutchins on May 12, 2002 at 00:50:49:

Also check this page for info on Inferno:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/crossover/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=201

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Savage Steel
Posted by Dickey on May 13, 2002 at 20:47:13:

Ok I know Savage Steel really did nothing of significance.  All he 
did was fight Darkhawk and Iron Man.  Now I belive I've seen an 
issue of Savage Steel.  As in his own series.  Was this a mini-
series (4 issues or whatever), longer one (25-50), or what.  It 
couldn't have been long.  Well tell me if one exists or if I've 
just gone completely insane and am seeing things.  Thanks a lot guys.

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Re: Savage Steel
Posted by Jeph! on May 14, 2002 at 11:53:40:
In Reply to: Savage Steel
posted by Dickey on May 13, 2002 at 20:47:13:

Sure you didn't just see DC's "Steel"?

    -Jeph!

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Re: Savage Steel
Posted by Dickey on May 14, 2002 at 15:24:55:
In Reply to: Re: Savage Steel
posted by Jeph! on May 14, 2002 at 11:53:40:

that must have been it.  Thanks.  Nice to know that I'm just 
insane . . . in that weird kind of not good way . . . .

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Re: Savage Steel
Posted by dickey on May 14, 2002 at 15:26:38:
In Reply to: Re: Savage Steel
posted by Jeph! on May 14, 2002 at 11:53:40:

not even a mini-series, cause I really could have sworn . . .

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James-Michael Starling
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 14, 2002 at 23:18:59:

His corpse appears in DEF 78.

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Wolverine #4-10
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 16, 2002 at 12:24:37:

As it currently stands, Wolverine #4-10 are listed before the 
Inferno crossover.  I propose that they are moved after the Inferno.  
The Hulk guests in Wolverine #7 and 8.  After the events of 
Incredible Hulk #350, the Hulk is believed to be dead.  Avengers 
Annual #17 follows from Incredible Hulk #350.  Avengers Annual #17 
is after Avengers #298 which is set in the early part of the Inferno, 
but after machinery goes crazy in X-Terminators #2.  The only clue 
to the placement of Wolverine #4-10 is that Wolverine is in Madripoor 
and the X-Men have not fractured.  This lack of firm placement easily 
allows them to be moved after the Inferno.

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But when does Wolverine #1 take place?
Posted by Matt on May 16, 2002 at 12:34:10:
In Reply to: Wolverine #4-10
posted by Andy Holcombe on May 16, 2002 at 12:24:37:

What issue of Uncanny X-men leads into Wolvie's series?

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Re: But when does Wolverine #1 take place?
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 20, 2002 at 11:58:08:
In Reply to: But when does Wolverine #1 take place?
posted by Matt on May 16, 2002 at 12:34:10:

It's pretty vague, but it has to be during the time that the X-Men 
are believed to have died in Dallas (between the conclusion of The 
Fall of the Mutants in Uncanny X-Men #227 and their capture in the 
X-Tinction Agenda) and after Jessan Hoan (Tyger Tiger)'s 
introduction(s) in Uncanny X-Men #229 and Marvel Comics Presents 
#1-10 (Save the Tiger).  It must also be before the Acts of 
Vengeance crossovers and separation of the X-Men beginning in 
Uncanny X-Men #246.  It's currently placed after Uncanny X-Men #234.

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MAUVIUS should be MAUVAIS
Posted by Brian Cook on May 18, 2002 at 07:21:47:

The characters Mauvais is misspelled Mauvius in the MCP

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HEADHUNTER Correction
Posted by Brian Cook on May 18, 2002 at 07:36:18:

HEADHUNTER that appeared in Namor is different than the HEADHUNTER 
that appeared in Wolverine #167.  The one from Wolverine should be 
listed as HEADHUNTER II

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Re: HEADHUNTER Correction
Posted by ShadZ on June 06, 2002 at 18:13:23:
In Reply to: HEADHUNTER Correction
posted by Brian Cook on May 18, 2002 at 07:36:18:

> HEADHUNTER that appeared in Namor is different than the HEADHUNTER 
that appeared in Wolverine #167.  The one from Wolverine should be 
listed as HEADHUNTER II

And although HEADHUNTER II is dead, the writer of Wolverene #167 has 
said that he was a member of a whole tribe/family of Headhunters, so 
more Headhunters are planned to appear in Wolverene in the future.

ShadZ

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Quick Question
Posted by dickey on May 19, 2002 at 11:44:28:

I know the MCP focuses on long running series but do you guys look @ 
limited series also like something only 4 issues long say?  I read 
the info on the page and either it's not there or I missed it.  
Thanks again.

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Re: Quick Question
Posted by Russ Chappell on May 19, 2002 at 13:08:18:
In Reply to: Quick Question
posted by dickey on May 19, 2002 at 11:44:28:

Where did you get the idea that we focus on long running series? If 
a story takes place in the Marvel Universe, and is canon, we include 
it. Is there a particular limited series you have in mind?

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Re: Quick Question
Posted by flufeemunk on May 19, 2002 at 17:58:53:
In Reply to: Re: Quick Question
posted by Russ Chappell on May 19, 2002 at 13:08:18:

on this topic, what about the stariling stories, with stuff like 
banner and the meglomaniacal spider man?  that doesnt really affect 
the unverse, but its still there.  do you include those?

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Re: Quick Question
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 20, 2002 at 11:40:26:
In Reply to: Re: Quick Question
posted by flufeemunk on May 19, 2002 at 17:58:53:

As Banner and Meglomaniacal Spider-Man are alternate realities, 
probably not.  However, I would like to see a listing of no-canon 
stories somewhere.  Maybe even with reasons why the story is non-
canon if it involves Marvel Universe characters.

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Re: Quick Question
Posted by Scott Hutchins on May 22, 2002 at 23:42:02:
In Reply to: Re: Quick Question
posted by flufeemunk on May 19, 2002 at 17:58:53:

What about the Suburnab Jersey Ninja She-Devils one-shot.  It 
doesn't involve any pre-existing MU characters, but it clearly 
is in continuity, with references to the Nexus of All Realities 
and Latveria.

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Re: Quick Question
Posted by Dickey on May 20, 2002 at 15:36:26:
In Reply to: Re: Quick Question
posted by Russ Chappell on May 19, 2002 at 13:08:18:

> Where did you get the idea that we focus on long running series? 
If a story takes place in the Marvel Universe, and is canon, we 
include it. Is there a particular limited series you have in mind?

My question would be say the 4 issue limited series called Blaze, 
or the 4 parter called Northstar.  Just little brief things like 
this.  How does know if they fit into the correct universe?

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Captain America
Posted by W Hartley on May 21, 2002 at 14:40:11:

What was the cause of death on Bucky Barnes?
thx,
WH

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Re: Captain America
Posted by Will on May 21, 2002 at 18:10:57:
In Reply to: Captain America
posted by W Hartley on May 21, 2002 at 14:40:11:

The original Bucky died while he was on a plane trying to defuse a 
bomb set by Baron Zemo and the bomb exploded.  Captain America: 
Sentinel of Liberty #12 retells it.

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Xandu?
Posted by CatspawVP on May 22, 2002 at 21:23:34:

has he come back since the secret defenders 6-8 story? I like the 
character and would like to think even though he cant be with 
melinda that he and the wand could still stir up trouble.

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Zombie
Posted by Scott on May 22, 2002 at 23:50:10:

What about the other Tales of the Zombie #1 (I've seen it referred 
to as both an annual and volume 2).  Also, Peter Sanderson's _MArvel 
Universe_ states that he was brought back in the pages of Daredevil, 
but these issues are not listed on the chronology, if they exist.

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Sleepwalker
Posted by Outwarrior on May 23, 2002 at 12:58:45:

I was wondering if anyone knew how many issues there were of 
Sleepwalker?  Also, What exactly is his power?  I know he is an 
alien that comes out when he his human form sleeps.  In the 
infinity crusade he killed human torch and Darkhawk with ease. 
Thanks.

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Re: Sleepwalker
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 24, 2002 at 20:35:52:
In Reply to: Sleepwalker
posted by Outwarrior on May 23, 2002 at 12:58:45:

There was a thirty-three issue series plus an holiday special.  His 
powers invloved some reality warping eye beams.

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Aunt May
Posted by Scott on May 23, 2002 at 23:51:44:

Peret Sanderson's _Marvel Universe_ depicts the death of Aunt May 
in ASM #400, yet in ASM #481, on sale now, she is alive and well, 
as the chronology project shows she has been.  Bringing little old 
ladies back to life is a lot less plausible than superheroes.  How'd 
they do it, and when?

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Re: Aunt May
Posted by Matt on May 24, 2002 at 12:07:44:
In Reply to: Aunt May
posted by Scott on May 23, 2002 at 23:51:44:

It was revealed back in ASM 441 that Aunt May was kept in chryogenic 
suspension by Norman Osborne, and that the "Aunt May" Peter buried 
was a look-alike with memories implated.

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Re: Aunt May
Posted by Scott on May 24, 2002 at 20:10:33:
In Reply to: Re: Aunt May
posted by Matt on May 24, 2002 at 12:07:44:

When did Norman Osborne come back to life?

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Return of Norman Osborne
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 24, 2002 at 20:33:36:
In Reply to: Re: Aunt May
posted by Scott on May 24, 2002 at 20:10:33:

You'll probably want to check out Spider-Man: The Osborne Journal 
for true? story of his resurrection, but in the meantime here's 
his listing between Amazing Spider-Man #123 (his "death") and his 
return during the Revalations arc.

From the Green Goblin's listing:

ASM 123
SM:RGG 2-FB
PPSM2 25-FB
A@ 16(?)
S-H2 53(?)
S-M 46-BTS
PPTSS 211-BTS
WOSM 117-BTS
ASM 394-BTS
PPTSS 240
SENSM 11
ASM 418
S-M 75

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Golden Age Marvels
Posted by Scott on May 24, 2002 at 21:19:48:

I assume the Golden Age appearances for Sub-Mariner are incomplete 
and nonexistant for Hellcat and Ka-Zar because nobody has those 
issues?  Of course there's also the neckbreaker Angel and the Masked 
Raider and the original Vision.  I'm sure there are plenty of other 
Golden Age Marvel characters I don't know about either.

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Re: Golden Age Marvels
Posted by DCW3 on May 25, 2002 at 12:45:02:
In Reply to: Golden Age Marvels
posted by Scott on May 24, 2002 at 21:19:48:

As I understand it, the old Patsy Walker stories are now considered 
"made-up" comic book stories written by Patsy's mom. And I believe 
the GA Ka-Zar is considered not in continuity, but in any event he's 
a different person from Kevin Plunder.

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Re: Golden Age Marvels
Posted by Scott on May 27, 2002 at 16:45:22:
In Reply to: Re: Golden Age Marvels
posted by DCW3 on May 25, 2002 at 12:45:02:

> As I understand it, the old Patsy Walker stories are now 
considered "made-up" comic book stories written by Patsy's mom. 

Wouldn't that make them BTS?

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Re: Golden Age Marvels
Posted by Russ Chappell on May 27, 2002 at 22:02:46:
In Reply to: Re: Golden Age Marvels
posted by Scott on May 27, 2002 at 16:45:22:

> Wouldn't that make them BTS?

Nope.

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Samantha Parrington
Posted by Scott on May 24, 2002 at 22:33:09:

In the letters page of The Incredible Hulk #158, a reader suggested 
turning Samantha Parrington, who was briefly inhabited by the 
Valkyrie in #142, that they had big plans for Samantha PArrington 
in the very near future.  What was the result?  I got very few hits 
in a web searh, and only about Valkyrie, so I assume nothing actually 
did happen, kind of like Mister Miracle #26 at DC when 25 ended on a 
cliffhanger.  Or how about Marvel failing to publish the conclusion 
of its Man-Thing and Werewolf stories in Strange Tales vol. 5 3 & 4?

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Death
Posted by Scott on May 25, 2002 at 00:17:59:

Death appeared in Chris Claremont's War Is Hell 9-15.  These stories 
took place during World War I and World War II, setting them before 
Death's earliest appearance.  The likeness is identical, save for 
having the figure of a man, something Marvel Universe says she can 
do.  The book's other lead, John Kowalski, also appeared in 
Claremont's Man-Thing.

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Re: Death
Posted by ShadZ on May 29, 2002 at 14:33:46:
In Reply to: Death
posted by Scott on May 25, 2002 at 00:17:59:

"War is Hell", like Marvel's other WWII comics, hasn't been added 
yet.  I think Russ had said he will get to them eventually, but if 
someone else wants to do it, he will be glad to let them . . .

ShadZ

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Re: Death
Posted by Scott on May 29, 2002 at 20:36:22:
In Reply to: Re: Death
posted by ShadZ on May 29, 2002 at 14:33:46:

Well, I'll do it when I read them, then.  I still have to pay for 
#13 and wait for it to arrive.  1-8 are all Sgt. Fury reprints.

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additional appearences
Posted by Arthur Stein on May 25, 2002 at 13:46:27:

Is there value is me posting stuff like this? I only audited  the 
first half of letter A. I could do more.

1. AGENT AXIS - final appearance is in M/CP 34/4  (He dies)

2. AMENHOTEP - first appearance A 129

3. ANDROMEDA  first appearance  (but not in costume) DEF 143 
pg-6-7
-next as ANDREA  (still not in costume) DEF 145 pg 8-10
-seeing as between DEF 152 and ST2 6 Andromeda was in a state 
between life and death  the appearance of her sand statue body 
in M/CP 37/3 might be listed between those two issues

4. APPALLA - first appears (though spelled with 1 P) in DRSTR 
22 pgs 14, 22 and 31
- next in  DRSTR2 24 pgs 7-8 
-  (side note:  she is listed as being in DRSTR2 28  but I was 
unable to identify her in that issue. Senility is setting in I 
guess)

Arthur

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Andromeda
Posted by CatspawVP on May 25, 2002 at 23:35:52:
In Reply to: additional appearences
posted by Arthur Stein on May 25, 2002 at 13:46:27:

> 3. ANDROMEDA  first appearance  (but not in costume) DEF 143 
pg-6-7
> - next as ANDREA  (still not in costume) DEF 145 pg 8-10
> - seeing as between DEF 152 and ST2 6 Andromeda was in a state 
between life and death  the appearance of her sand statue body in 
M/CP 37/3 might be listed between those two issues

Ok did they end up bringing her back too? if so as far as i know 
that means the only 2 then that remain dead are interloper and 
manslaughter

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Re: Andromeda
Posted by Sean Curtin on May 30, 2002 at 08:56:08:
In Reply to: Andromeda
posted by CatspawVP on May 25, 2002 at 23:35:52:

Nope, the three of them came back in new bodies in Dr. Strange 
volume 2 #3-4.  I don't think that Manslaughter, Interloper, or 
the woman whose body Andromeda currently possesses have been seen 
since that story, though.

-Sean Curtin

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Re: Andromeda
Posted by Don Campbell on May 31, 2002 at 00:26:24:
In Reply to: Re: Andromeda
posted by Sean Curtin on May 30, 2002 at 08:56:08:

> Nope, the three of them came back in new bodies in Dr. Strange 
volume 2 #3-4.  I don't think that Manslaughter, Interloper, or 
the woman whose body Andromeda currently possesses have been seen 
since that story, though.

First, Andromeda, the Valkyrie, the Interloper and Manslaughter 
all came back to life in DOCTOR STRANGE, SORCERER SUPREME #3-4 
which is listed as DRSTR3 (or Doctor Strange Vol. 3) by the MCP.

Second, the Interloper has not been seen since then but Manslaughter 
appeared once in passing in the pages of CAGE (the series, not the 
current LS).

Third, the Valkyrie appeared in the Black Knight Limited Series, 
several issues of Ghost Rider, the Valkyrie one-shot, and most 
recently in Defenders (vol. 2) #4.  It should be noted that sometime 
before DEF2 4, the Valkyrie no longer needed to inhabit/transform 
the body of a willing human host since in her latest appearance she 
was clearly back in her godly form.  I suspect that she was separated 
from her human host back when Odin sent all the gods of Asgard to 
Earth in mortal form so that they might survive the Ragnorak that 
Seth had arranged. Presumably, when Odin's spell created human forms 
for the gods, it created a new physical form for the Valkyrie as well.

Fourth, Andromeda appeared in a fair number of issues after returning 
from the dead, ending with her appearances in the final issues of 
NAMOR. In that storyline, Namor's soul was lost within the Blood 
Wraith's Ebony Blade and Andromeda stabbed herself with the sword so 
that she could reach Namor, warn him that Marrina's soul had been 
corrupted, and show Namor the way to return to his body. 
Unfortunately, in order to save Namor, Andromeda had to stay behind 
in the Ebony Blade's pocket dimension. As for her host-body, once 
Andromeda's soul left it, the body returned to its original form and 
was once again controlled by the soul of the woman who had lent it 
to Andromeda. However, the body did not revert fully to its original 
configuration and the woman found that, while her body looked like 
her old self, it now functioned like an Atlantean's (ie. she was 
suffocating in the air and had to go underwater to breathe). 
Apparently the artist on DEF2 2 was unaware of this wrinkle since 
he included the blue-skinned Andromeda in one panel of that story.

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Re: Andromeda
Posted by Don Campbell on June 02, 2002 at 16:38:32:
In Reply to: Re: Andromeda
posted by Don Campbell on May 31, 2002 at 00:26:24:

> Apparently the artist on DEF2 2 was unaware of this wrinkle since 
he included the blue-skinned Andromeda in one panel of that story.

Apparently my memory was not as good/complete as I thought it was. 
I've just been looking through the later issues of the second 
Defenders series and I came across another appearance by the blue-
skinned Andromeda.  She appears in DEF2 11, the issue in which the 
Defenders finally help Namor free Atlantis from Attuma's rule.  
Andromeda appears in several of the last pages and is even addressed 
by name. In light of this, it must be assumed that, between the end 
of the Namor series and the beginning of Defenders, something took 
place that freed Andromeda's soul from the Blood Wraith's Ebony Blade 
and somehow granted her a physical body again (either by returning 
her soul to its human host-body or by recreating her own Atlantean 
body). We can only hope that some continuity-minded writer will 
eventually choose to write this currently-untold story.

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Wolverine: Origin
Posted by Matt on May 26, 2002 at 11:48:30:

Did anybody feel let down at the conclusion of Origin? All it did 
was left us with more questions about his past. What happen to Dog? 
How long did Logan/James live with the wolves.

As far as I can tell, by the end of the series it was the early 
20th century, possibly the 1910s or 1920s. The next concrete piece 
to Wolverine's past was found in Uncanny X-Men 268, which took place 
in 1941 and Logan met the novice Captain America.

That means there still a twenty year-gap to Wolverine's past that 
still needs to be told. Can anyone say sequel?

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Re: Wolverine: Origin
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 26, 2002 at 22:12:16:
In Reply to: Wolverine: Origin
posted by Matt on May 26, 2002 at 11:48:30:

> That means there still a twenty year-gap to Wolverine's past that 
still needs to be told.

When did Logan study in Japan under Ogun?

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Re: Wolverine: Origin
Posted by Matt on May 26, 2002 at 22:54:37:
In Reply to: Re: Wolverine: Origin
posted by Andy Holcombe on May 26, 2002 at 22:12:16:

> When did Logan study in Japan under Ogun?

Probably somewhere between 1910 and 1940.

I actually think it's a thirty-year gap now, and that the Origin 
series end around 1907 or 1910.

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Re: Wolverine: Origin
Posted by Brad on June 23, 2002 at 02:34:39:
In Reply to: Wolverine: Origin
posted by Matt on May 26, 2002 at 11:48:30:

> Did anybody feel let down at the conclusion of Origin? All it did 
was left us with more questions about his past. What happen to Dog? 
How long did Logan/James live with the wolves.

I might be alone in this theory, but the end of Origin subtly 
implied that Dog was Sabretooth.

You might want to re-read the issue & pay close attention to how 
Dog is drawn.

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Re: Wolverine: Origin
Posted by Jeph! on June 23, 2002 at 13:29:49:
In Reply to: Re: Wolverine: Origin
posted by Brad on June 23, 2002 at 02:34:39:

I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to imply this.

> I might be alone in this theory, but the end of Origin subtly 
implied that Dog was Sabretooth. You might want to re-read the 
issue & pay close attention to how Dog is drawn.

Dog's name is "Dog" Logan.  Sabretooth's name is Victor Creed.

Dog has several permanent scars across his face.  Sabretooth has 
a healing factor.

Dog and Wolvie are implied to be half-brothers.  Sabretooth and 
Wolverine took a DNA test in W#42 and they determined that they 
weren't related.

So ... sorry.  Despite Dog's bulk and hair-color change, I don't 
think there's any connection there between him and Sabretooth -- 
except that maybe Andy Kubert isn't the talented, diverse artist 
some folks think he is.

	-Jeph!
anyone get a chuckle out of the slipcover for the Origin hardcover 
crediting Andy Kubert's "run" on Ultimate X-Men?  Sorry, pal, but 
a few fill-ins ain't a run...

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Re: Wolverine: Origin
Posted by Brad on July 11, 2002 at 01:52:07:
In Reply to: Re: Wolverine: Origin
posted by Jeph! on June 23, 2002 at 13:29:49:

> Dog's name is "Dog" Logan.  Sabretooth's name is Victor Creed.

But that could be an alias.  After all, Wolverine's name isn't 
really Logan, it's James Howlett.

> Dog and Wolvie are implied to be half-brothers.  Sabretooth and 
Wolverine took a DNA test in W#42 and they determined that they 
weren't related.

I'll give you this one.  I've always shyed away from Wolvie's book, 
so that one slipped me.

> So ... sorry.  Despite Dog's bulk and hair-color change, I don't 
think there's any connection there between him and Sabretooth -- 
except that maybe Andy Kubert isn't the talented, diverse artist 
some folks think he is.

Can't argue with that.  Maybe Kubert reads Wolverine as much as I 
do & thought he could spring that "revelation" on us...

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Bucky Barnes
Posted by captamr on May 26, 2002 at 22:52:03:

There's a flashback of Bucky and the rest of the Invaders in CA#307 
(even mentioned on the cover)but no listing under Bucky. Is this not 
a significant appearence?

Thanks,

Charlie

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Satana
Posted by Scott on May 27, 2002 at 16:40:13:

I read Satana was going to get her own series as the time Man-Thing 
vol. 3 and Werewolf by Night Vol. 2 came out.  The idea was that 
these were supposed to be mature readers titles, but Marvel decided 
at the last minute to get code approval on them, and Satana didn't 
make it.  The article I read said that Satana was published without 
code approval, but I can't find it at any of the online stores.  Did 
she never really get her own series, depsite the announcement (kind 
of like Scarecrow)?

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Re: Satana
Posted by Andy Holcombe on May 29, 2002 at 10:55:48:
In Reply to: Satana
posted by Scott on May 27, 2002 at 16:40:13:

Right after Marvel decided that they were going to publish a mature 
readers line, Marvel changed owners.  The new owner decreed that 
all Marvel Comics MUST be suitable for young children.  J.M. 
DeMatteis, Liam McCormack-Sharp, Paul Jenkins, and Leonardo Manco 
made changes to their stories (Man-Thing and Werewolf by Night, 
respectively) and they were published, for a while.  Warren Ellis 
either wouldn't or couldn't make the nessessary changes and so 
Satana wasn't published.  When the Max line was announced, Marvel 
teased us that they might revive Satana with a different writer 
attached.

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Re: Satana
Posted by Scott on May 29, 2002 at 20:34:14:
In Reply to: Re: Satana
posted by Andy Holcombe on May 29, 2002 at 10:55:48:

I wonder why the code approval lasted only one issue, though...

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Re: Satana
Posted by Sean Curtin on May 30, 2002 at 08:56:26:
In Reply to: Satana
posted by Scott on May 27, 2002 at 16:40:13:

Right.  It was to be a follow-up to the Hellstorm series by Warren 
Ellis & Leonardo Manco (like the Druid series).  According to Ellis, 
Marvel offered to publish the completed issues when they started up 
the Max line, but he turned them down since he'd already used 
(modified versions of) the ideas he used in SATANA in his STRANGE 
KISS miniseries.

--Sean Curtin

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APE-X....ARIZE...ARKO...
Posted by Arthur Stein on May 27, 2002 at 17:15:36:

additional appearances:

APE-X:  listed  in SQS 5 through SQS 11
        also in SQS 12 - Pg 9  

ARIZE: First appearence L 5 pg 15-16

ARKO: appears in T 423/2 T424/2 and T 425

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mini-series question
Posted by Outwarrior on May 28, 2002 at 15:26:41:

For example take the Northstar mini-series from around 1991.  It was 
4 issues long.  Then say they started a long running series with him 
a couple years later.  Would the original mini-series not count or 
would that be volume 1 and the longer running series volume 2?

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Re: mini-series question
Posted by Russ Chappell on May 28, 2002 at 20:37:31:
In Reply to: mini-series question
posted by Outwarrior on May 28, 2002 at 15:26:41:

> For example take the Northstar mini-series from around 1991.  It 
was 4 issues long.  Then say they started a long running series with 
him a couple years later.  Would the original mini-series not count 

It would "count".

> or would that be volume 1 and the longer running series volume 2?

Yes.

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Re: mini-series question
Posted by Outwarrior on May 28, 2002 at 21:11:09:
In Reply to: Re: mini-series question
posted by Russ Chappell on May 28, 2002 at 20:37:31:

So when it says that there are 4 volumes of Moon Knight how many of 
those are actual series of say more than 6 or so?  I know there is 
"Marc Spector: Moon Knight" and that had quite a few issues.  Were 
there any others that long?  Thanks.

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Moon Knight series
Posted by DCW3 on May 29, 2002 at 13:06:13:
In Reply to: Re: mini-series question
posted by Outwarrior on May 28, 2002 at 21:11:09:

Moon Knight vol. 1 lasted 38 issues. Vol. 2 was six issues. Vol. 3 
(Marc Spector: Moon Knight) lasted 60 issues. Then, there appear to 
be two four-issue limited series, one of which isn't listed here, 
either because it was out of continuity or hasn't been analyzed yet.

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Re: Moon Knight series
Posted by Outwarrior on May 29, 2002 at 13:45:18:
In Reply to: Moon Knight series
posted by DCW3 on May 29, 2002 at 13:06:13:

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.

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Re: Moon Knight series
Posted by Arthur Stein on May 30, 2002 at 17:57:55:
In Reply to: Moon Knight series
posted by DCW3 on May 29, 2002 at 13:06:13:

The series in the MCP labelled MK4 would appear to be the one from  
Jan 1998 - #4 Apr 1998 (indicia says vol 3).

In 1999 a 4-issue set was published ... sub-titled High Strangers. 
The cover shows Feb for all for four issues. (Indicia for #1 says 
vol 3 January 1999, and the rest are February.)

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Arranger... Athena....Atom Smasher
Posted by Arthur Stein on May 30, 2002 at 18:45:22:

ARRANGER ... is that not the Arranger in DD 253 pgs 10-12? 

ATHENA makes an earlier appearance than those listed ... T 164 pg 15

ATOM SMASHER... as shown in MCP:

ATOM SMASHER/
M/TIO 54

ATOM SMASHER II/  
IM 288-FB
IM 287
IM 288

ATOM-SMASHER/
BG 1
BG 2
BG 3

M/TIO 54:    Is there any reason to suspect that the casket contains 
anyone OTHER than the original ATOM-SMASHER from BG 1-3?  The 
reference to him on Pg 27 panel 1 has the name WITH a hyphen just 
as it appears in BG 1-3 (though it is shown here in MCP without the 
hyphen).

The name ATOM SMASHER (no hyphen) first appears in M/TIO 85 where 
the brother of the original ATOM-SMASHER shows up. In M/TIO 85 Black 
Goliath has a flashback to his first encounter and the name of the 
ORIGINAL is referenced there WITHOUT the hyphen. So it appears that 
the hyphen may be optional. (should M/TIO 85-FB be added to ATOM-
SMASHER??)

In M/TIO 85 the name without the hyphen is also used for the brother 
where it is revealed (pg 19) that he was the mysterious person in BG 
2 that hired the assassin that killed the first Atom-Smasher.

So the entries for THIS Atom Smasher are:
BG 2
BG 3 (not sure how you folks categorize this... the voice of Atom-
Smasher is the last panel of BG 2 and is basically repeated as the 
first panel of BG3)
M/TIO 85

smile!

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Wonder Man
Posted by Outwarrior on May 31, 2002 at 11:19:25:

I was looking at the Wonder Man volumes and it says there are two.  
The part that puzzled me was that it appears that Wonder Man volume 
one is only 1 issue long.  Is that actually true or have they not 
gotten around to the first volume or what.  Thanks.

P.S. I thought there were more than two, are there or am I wrong?

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Brian Cook on May 31, 2002 at 12:24:47:
In Reply to: Wonder Man
posted by Outwarrior on May 31, 2002 at 11:19:25:

WONDER MAN Volume One was a one-shot that was released March 1986.  
Volume Two was 29 issues and 2 annuals.

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Outwarrior on May 31, 2002 at 13:30:33:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Brian Cook on May 31, 2002 at 12:24:47:

by one-shot that means only 1 issue correct?

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Brian Cook on May 31, 2002 at 15:21:42:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Outwarrior on May 31, 2002 at 13:30:33:

> by one-shot that means only 1 issue correct?

Yes, that is correct...

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Outwarrior on June 02, 2002 at 12:42:26:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Brian Cook on May 31, 2002 at 15:21:42:

I noticed that total Wonder Man had 2 one-shot issues before his 
longer series.  Is there only one on this site becuase the other 
doesn't take place within Marvel continuity?

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Russ Chappell on June 02, 2002 at 20:53:45:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Outwarrior on June 02, 2002 at 12:42:26:

> I noticed that total Wonder Man had 2 one-shot issues before his 
longer series.  

Source, please?

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Outwarrior on June 03, 2002 at 13:39:16:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Russ Chappell on June 02, 2002 at 20:53:45:

http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/power/955/  

that is the link to the website.  On the MCP webpage there is a 
link for Wonder Man and this is the site it brings you to.

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Andy Holcombe on June 03, 2002 at 21:50:14:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Outwarrior on June 03, 2002 at 13:39:16:

One of those is an issue of Marvel Premiere (#55) and  one is an 
actual one-shot.  Both are part of Wonder Man's chronology.

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Re: Wonder Man
Posted by Outwarrior on June 04, 2002 at 15:51:04:
In Reply to: Re: Wonder Man
posted by Andy Holcombe on June 03, 2002 at 21:50:14:

Sorry, that was just me not reading enough.  I apologize.
