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1. M/CP 39/4 movement?
2. Questions about some titles on the non-canon list
3. Newest "Name the Villain" exercise
4. ASM/MTU correction?
5. "Lonesome Pincus" from the O'Neil Spider-Man era
6. MTU Annual 6 contradiction
7. Spider-Man in What If? 7
8. Secret Invasion [SPOILERS]
9. Venom BTS question
10. Spite chronology
11. Alexander Ryking
12. Yellow Claw Correction, it was the actual Yellow Claw BTS
13. X-Force & Cable '95, '96 & '97
14. Gambit
15. ASM @16 chronology
16. green goblin v in pptss 18?
17. WOSM 113
18. brother power chronology
19. Early Defenders chronology
20. GSS-M 1
21. DIAMONDHEAD/DYKER in Darkhawk/New Warriors story question
22. Body-only appearances
23. Warlock (first series) dates
24. DD@ 2
25. More early '80s Spider-Man corrections
26. Spidey pre-Clone Saga adjustments
27. Flashbacks in Invincible Iron Man #3
28. M/TU 150 placement
29. Celestials (group) chronological appearances?

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30. Earth X 5-8
31. Earth X 9-X
32. Universe X 0-4
33. Universe X 5-8
34. Universe X 9-X
35. June call for analyses
36. Paradise X: Heralds 1-3
37. Runaways v2 #25-30
38. Secret Invasion #1 Directors Cut
39. Prowler 1
40. Annihilation: Conquest
41. Ghost Rider v6 24-25




Thread 1

Subject: M/CP 39/4 movement?

Jul 02, 2008 11:51 am 
By cweed4

Noticed that this Spidey appearance has recently shifted. 

old
ASM 326
PPTSS 158
WOSM 59
ASM 327
M/CP 39/4
PPTSS 159

new
ASM 326
M/CP 39/4
PPTSS 158
WOSM 59
ASM 327
PPTSS 159

I could not find any thread discussions about it. This movement keeps it within the "Acts of Vengeance" storyline but places it before Spidey goes cosmic in PPTSS 158. Any particular reason for the move?

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Jul 02, 2008 12:02 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Because Spidey's clearly non-cosmic in it, and it avoids needing to give the Uni-Power a BTS now that it has an entry. (I suggested the move here.)

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Jul 03, 2008 10:27 am 
By cweed4

Dug out my copy for a quick read last night. The only continuity clues are Peter & MJ having their own place (making it post-WOSM 57 or way back to pre-ASM 314) and him being in graduate school (thus post-ASM 310). The story itself involves Peter taking a dive to let some college kids beat him. So, I don't see any evidence that he is non-cosmic since he pretty much isn't using his powers at all by letting the students get away.

I don't really disagree w/ the movement of this story but this seems to be a "better fit" change. Why not just move this in front of the entire "Acts of Vengeance" cross-over (which starts in ASM 326) for the "best fit"?

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Thread 2

Subject: Questions about some titles on the non-canon list

Jul 04, 2008 2:19 pm 
By Giant Ant

I was checking the non-canon list on the FAQ, and would like some details on why the following books were included ;

Carnage : It's A Wonderful Life 
- Why is this considered non-canon?

ClanDestine vol.1 #9-12 
-I know these issues were later retconned as a dream, but shouldn't the dreamer at least receive a BTS appearance?

Dragon's Claws
-Death's Head appeared in this serie, so shouldn't it count as an alternate future/timeline, similar to Days Of Future Past or any of the countless others?

Marvel Super Hero Island Adventures 
-I read this book last week, and, albeit a bit silly, I don't see why it couldn't be considered canon. Anybody knows?

Wolverine : Global Jeopardy
-I have never read this one, but am curious as to what keeps it from being canon?

Thank you very much

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Jul 04, 2008 6:21 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

If I remember right, Global Jeopardy had the Savage Land in Africa instead of Antarctica... or something. 

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 05, 2008 3:09 am 
By Peter Fabricius

I just looked through it. There is no mention of the Savage Land being in Africa. Ka-Zar and Shanna are in Africa, but that is all

Only three weeks on the job and already I live for seeing his forehead turn that shade of pink.

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Thread 3

Subject: Newest "Name the Villain" exercise

Jun 21, 2008 10:00 pm 
By Paul Boucier
Director

Okay, we see more Bar With No Name scenes in ASM 562-563. I notice the following villains:
Stiletto, Fancy Dan, Puff Adder, Ox, Rock Python, Basher, Ringer II, Poundcakes, Powderkeg, Montana, Rattler, Coachwhip, Trapster, Fer de Lance, Ramrod, Hydro-Man, and of course, the Bookie
So who are:
The red-haired "I say thee nay" guy with the bracelets? Amphibian?
The squid guy?
The brunette in the blue and green costume?
The guy in the two-tone blue costume with skullcap?
The orange-haired guy in blue and purple?
The black guy with the claws on his head?
The woman with the green shades?
Any others I missed?

Paul B.

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Jun 22, 2008 9:17 pm 
By Mikhail

-Redhead is Discus. No idea why he's pulling an Asgardian.
-The squid is the Squid, from the pre-JMS Spidey reboot days.
-Brunette is Scorpia, from her Kevin Smith's Spidey / Black Cat days.

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Jun 23, 2008 10:37 am 
By angelicknight

- Black guy with claws on his head is Condor a foe of Nova. No idea on the others.

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Jun 27, 2008 3:34 pm 
By Mikail

Okay, got a chance to look at these issues again. I think that's Doctor Nemesis sitting with the Condor in #562.

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Jul 05, 2008 11:08 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Mikhail wrote:
>>>
I think that's Doctor Nemesis sitting with the Condor in #562.
<<<

Thanks, Mikhail. I had him pegged as the new Ringer, but you're right. And thanks to you too, Angelic Knight.

So we still have:
The guy in the two-tone blue costume with skullcap
The orange-haired guy in blue and purple
The woman with the green shades

Paul B.

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Thread 4

Subject: ASM/MTU correction?

Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am 
By tlynch

Hi all,

The listing for Spider-Man currently reads:

ASM 226
M/TU 115
M/TU 116
PPTSS 65
SS3 14-FB
M/GN 1
CA 265
CA 266
ASM 227

However, I think there are a couple of problems there.

1) MTU 116 references ASM 227 as having already happened. (It also mentions Defenders 68, which isn't on Spidey's listing at all -- I don't have that issue, so can't check.)

2) ASM 227 has several indications that it's the day after 226: the headline on the Daily Bugle mentions the events of 226, and Black Cat says that she last saw Spider-Man only "hours" ago. 

As such, I think 226 and 227 should be back-to-back. That would change things to:

ASM 226
ASM 227
M/TU 115
M/TU 116
PPTSS 65
SS3 14-FB
M/GN 1
CA 265
CA 266

PPTSS 65 has no real external references and is thus modular; I don't have easy access to the last four items, but maybe someone else could check that?

TWL

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Jul 05, 2008 11:35 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

tlynch wrote:
>>>
MTU 116 references ASM 227 as having already happened. (It also mentions Defenders 68, which isn't on Spidey's listing at all -- I don't have that issue, so can't check.)
<<<

DEF 68 occurred long before M/TU 116 and didn't feature Spidey.

Your conclusion about the placement of ASM 227 relative to ASM 226 makes sense to me, and I checked my copy of M/TU 116 to discover that, indeed, ASM 227 is noted in an editor's note as having already occurred. Thanks!

Paul B.

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Jul 05, 2008 7:32 pm 
By tlynch

>>>
DEF 68 occurred long before M/TU 116 and didn't feature Spidey.
<<<

I guessed as much. Since DEF 61 is in the chronology, I wonder if that's what they meant. (The footnote in M/TU 116 references Spidey helping the Defenders fight Lunatik -- would 61 match that?)

As for the rest ... happy to help!

TWL

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Jul 05, 2008 7:56 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Well, Lunatik's chronology (wait, wasn't it Lunat!k?) includes #61, but not #68.

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Jul 06, 2008 9:41 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

tlynch wrote:
>>>
The footnote in M/TU 116 references Spidey helping the Defenders fight Lunatik -- would 61 match that?
<<<

Yes indeed.Paul B.

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Thread 5

Subject: "Lonesome Pincus" from the O'Neil Spider-Man era

Jun 27, 2008 9:27 am 
By tlynch

Hi all,

Continuing my sojourn through early '80s Spider-Man, I've noticed that Walter Pincus ("Lonesome Pincus" or "Lonesome Pinky") doesn't appear to have an entry here in the MCP. He's not a gigantically relevant character, but he makes a lot of appearances in SM comics during this time period. 

I'm happy to try to work up a chronology for him if people would like -- what's the sense here?

TWL

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Jun 27, 2008 11:10 am 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

tlynch wrote:
>>>
I'm happy to try to work up a chronology for him if people would like
<<<

Yes, very much. Thanks!


watching: northern exposure

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Jun 30, 2008 8:15 am 
By tlynch

Here we are, then!

He's first referenced in PPTSSM 50, but does not actually make an appearance -- as such, I'm not sure that counts.

After that, it's the following:

ASM 211 (voice only)
ASM 212 (voice only)
ASM 213 (seen but not ID'd as the singer)
ASM 214 (seen but not ID'd)
ASM 216 (voice only) 
ASM 217 (where he's finally ID'd)
ASM 219
ASM 221

So far as I know, ASM 221 ("Blues for Lonesome Pinky") is his last appearance.

Hope this is helpful!

TWL

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Jul 06, 2008 10:45 am 
By tlynch

Lonesome Pincus also appears (briefly) in ASM 234.

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Thread 6

Subject: MTU Annual 6 contradiction

Jul 07, 2008 2:35 pm 
By tlynch

Hi all,

MTU Annual 6 seems to have a problem in the chronology.

Dagger and Cloak's chronologies both have the annual listed after PPTSSM 81 and 82, but Spider-Man's chronology has it listed as taking place well beforehand. 

Any ideas?

TWL

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Thread 7

Subject: Spider-Man in What If? 7

Jul 06, 2008 5:25 pm 
By newtron

I thought I saw this on here somewhere, but now I can't find it. In case it hasn't been posted, the main MU Spider-Man appears at the beginning of What If #7. If this has already been posted, please disregard this. 

Placement suggestion:

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
...
ASM@ 11/2
COH 2
WI? 7
ASM 172
...

I haven't read COH 2, so I can't really speculate how it might affect this. WI? 7, though, could go in almost any gap so I'm guessing its placement with respect to COH 2 doesn't really matter.

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Jul 07, 2008 1:09 pm 
By cweed4

Is this similar to his appearance in WI? 24 where Spidey has a short prelude before the What If story begins?

What criteria does the MCP use to distinguish which of these appearances should and should not be included? I recently read WI? 35 (Elektra had lived) and it seemed like an argument could be made to put that into DD's chronology. That issue had the Watcher(?) talking to Matt as he stood over Elektra's tombstone. Since the What If element was simply presented as a conversation it doesn't actually contradict any MU events.

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Jul 07, 2008 1:55 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

cweed4 wrote:
>>>
What criteria does the MCP use to distinguish which of these appearances should and should not be included?
<<<

Is it really Spider-Man, or Daredevil? Do they actually appear?

The questions are rhetorical.


watching: batman begins

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Jul 07, 2008 4:28 pm 
By cweed4

I would have assumed all What If? stories would be excluded from character listings. But, WI? 24 did made it in for Spidey. That's the only reason I bring up my question.

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Jul 07, 2008 4:57 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

I don't have the book in front me, but my assumption would be that (a) it's the real Spider-Man, as opposed to some alternate-timeline version, and that (b) he makes an actual appearance. If one of those assumptions is false, then the listing should be removed.


watching: wooster & jeeves

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Jul 07, 2008 5:56 pm 
By newtron

WI? 7 has a couple pages of main MU Spidey swinging around and saving a small, Spanish-speaking boy who fell out a window. There's then a one-page recap of Spidey's origins, and only after that does the "what if" scenario begin. The last page has one panel that may be the main MU Spidey, but I think it's probably supposed to be an what-if universe one.

WI? 24 starts with main MU Spidey visting the site of Gwen's death, on the anniversary of her death. After five pages of new material and flashbacks, the Watcher gets a page of dialogue and then the "what if" stuff begins.

Both should definitely be listed.

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Thread 8

Subject: Secret Invasion [SPOILERS]

Mar 26, 2008 12:10 pm 
By Somebody
Director

There's a Prologue/Prelude up on Marvel.com - I've not read it (it's for paying subscribers only - anyone here fall into that category?), but the reports on what it contains are consistent on a point:

[Obscure] Spoiler: Click for a skrull reveal
Dum Dum Dugan was apparently killed & replaced shortly after Cap v5 #25:
(Summary from a Newsarama poster. Apply salt.) "Basically, the scene is set not too far after the death of Steve Rogers. A group of agents in a bar, one of them is blaming all the recent happenings (Civil War, Cap's death) on Fury and how he just disappeared. Dugan hears this gets upset, to say the least and he leaves. He meets up with Contessa. She asks where is Fury and has Dugan contacted him, when Dugan swears he hasn't talked to him or know where he is, she stabs him with claws like Wolverine's. As he's bleeding he looks up and watches her change to look like him."


Are Iron Man v4 #15-18 placed before or after that right now?

The first half of SI 1 is also online here: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html

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Mar 26, 2008 2:56 pm 
By JD

I've read the thing, and that's quite an accurate description.


[Obscure] Spoiler: My thoughts :
On the other hand, I'm not sure Dugan actually dies. Especially as the Skrull concludes by saying "Don't worry, he likes you" (whoever "he" is). 
Dugan's certainly survived worse than that.

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Mar 26, 2008 3:21 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Thanks to a very nice person who-shall-remain-nameless, I've read for myself now too...


[Obscure] Spoiler: On that last line...
It's "He loves you", not "He likes you".

Given how Bendis has been going on about Skrull religion as part of this - which is going to spin-off more directly in the Incredible Herc issues - I'm thinking that MAY just be a direct swipe from Battlestar Galactica, with infiltrating Skrulls = infiltrating Cylons. "Don't worry, you're going to die, but Kly'bn loves you."

The other question is "what about the Contessa" - if Skrull Contessa becomes Skrull Dugan, who was that in Cap #26 talking Sharon off the ledge? The real Contessa?

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Mar 27, 2008 1:26 am 
By WayneLW

Two points  

First, the summary is accurate, as other posters have mentioned.

Second, you don't need to be a paying member of Marvel.com's DCU to read the online preview, you merely have to be a registered member of Marvel.com, which is free and not the same thing as paying for a subscription to Marvel.com. I know this because that's how I read it. You register with Marvel.com, but don't to buy DCU, and you can read the preview. Blame Marvel.com's crappy site design for the confusion.

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Mar 27, 2008 6:55 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Are Iron Man v4 #15-18 placed before or after that right now?

I have IM4 15-18 after CA5 25.

Paul B.

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Apr 02, 2008 11:57 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

So now that Secret Invasion #1 is out, I've finally read the obscured text. And as it turns out, none of it spoiled Secret Invasion #1.  

For those interested, they're talking about an internet exclusive Secret Invasion prelude on Marvel.com It's now available to everyone, so go check it out. 

Also, according to Tom Brevoort's blog, there are currently no plans for this to hit print form, it was conceived as an internet exclusive.(though it may be included in a trade later on) I'm not sure how to list it... it's a prelude, so I'm thinking we would list it as: 

SI: P

for Secret Invasion: Prelude, no number. Or: 

SICC

for Secret Invasion Cyber Comic, similar to the way we listed the Gambit internet-only comic from way back when. 

As for Somebody's 'other question': Even though Dum Dum was approached by a Skrull posing as the Contessa, I don't think she was *replaced* by a Skrull. It was just a way to question him without him becoming suspicious, and when the Skrull got it's answer it replaced *Dum Dum*. Meaning yes, that was the real Contessa in Cap #26.-Daron Jensen

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Jul 07, 2008 12:16 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

...and now it's been printed in Secret Invasion #1 Director's Cut! 

There's a recap page, then the first story is the prelude. There's another recap page, then the second story is Secret Invasion #1, then there's Bendis' script. 

I guess we can list it as: 

SI 1 DC.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 07, 2008 6:45 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Fury, if there's new material in SI 1 DC, would you care to post an analysis? Thanks.

Paul B.

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Jul 07, 2008 3:14 pm 
By Somebody
Director

What about the Secret Invasion: Home Invasion thing that's apparently on the Marvel website - part video blog, part online comic?

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.3063.Free~excl~_Read_Secret_Invasion~colon~_Home_Invasion
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=16002&page=article

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Jul 08, 2008 12:16 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

Paul Bourcier wrote:
>>>
Fury, if there's new material in SI 1 DC, would you care to post an analysis? Thanks.
<<<

No problem. Sometime later this week, most likely.


Somebody wrote:
>>>
What about the Secret Invasion: Home Invasion thing that's apparently on the Marvel website - part video blog, part online comic?
<<<

I'd say just the comic parts. If one follows the link Somebody provided, you can see the Young Avengers make an appearance, and as revealed at the Secret Invasion panel at ChicagoCon, Nick Fury will make an appearance in an upcoming installment.(4? I forget) Also, from the same panel, there's tentative plans for these to be collected in print, but who knows when that will happen. In any event, I would say: 

SI: HI

for an abbreviation.

-Daron Jensen

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Thread 9

Subject: Venom BTS question

Jun 02, 2008 9:49 am 
By tobyoryamcha

Hi just to add to this as i couldnt find a stand alone venom thread elsewhere does anyone know why Venom (i think that means symbiote not Eddie) is listed as having a BTS appearence in:

SUB-M2 3-BTS
M/GN 17-BTS

I now own both of these and cannot find any reference on appearence of them, is anyone who owns these able to clarify for me? Did I miss something or is their inclusion an error.

Btw I have linked to MCP on my Symbiote website.

thanks, Toby

Last edited by Somebody on Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:23 am, edited 1 time in total. 
Reason: Split from a thread in Chat because it's best suited to the MU forum, and to a thread of its own 

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Jun 04, 2008 11:58 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

tobyoryamcha wrote:
>>>
Venom (i think that means symbiote not Eddie)
<<<

You're right. Eddie has a separate chronology. 

As for SUB-M2 3 & M/GN 17, from Secret Wars up to about Web of Spider-Man 1 the symbiote's & Spider-Man's chronologies match up with a couple of exceptions. Since Spider-Man appears in both SUB-M2 3 & M/GN 17, my guess without checking the books is that the costume he's wearing IS the symbiote, but it's just not mentioned in the comics. I'm pretty sure that's the case here, as it's given a BTS for each issue, but I could be wrong.

-Daron Jensen

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Jun 05, 2008 10:25 am
By tobyoryamcha

yeh thats what it normally means but spidey is wearing the red and blues in MGN17 thats what confuses me, just wondering if someone had figured something I didnt.

I solved the Namor Problem though you people and the spiderfan people but his 4 issue mini which never was gonna be an ongoing as a Namor (insert words before namor in heading) and volumed it. I dont do that in my own filing, mystery solved anyway.

Still cant suss how venom OR the symbiote with or without spidey appears in any capacity in MGN17 return of the living monolith but oh well.

Thanks for the help so far.

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Jun 05, 2008 11:56 am 
By Somebody
Director

Yes, the MCP counts minis in the volume numbering, even before you get into the strange case of Silver Surfer v2 (a one-shot).

As for MGN 17 - remember that, by definition, a BTS character doesn't appear on-panel. It could well be that a later issue retconned Venom into the events of the GN somewhere, in which case there would obviously be no indication of anything Venom-related in MGN 17.

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Jun 05, 2008 12:48 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

tobyoryamcha wrote:
>>>
I solved the Namor Problem though you people and the spiderfan people but his 4 issue mini which never was gonna be an ongoing as a Namor (insert words before namor in heading) and volumed it. I dont do that in my own filing, mystery solved anyway.
<<<

Where do you put the 4 issue mini in your filing?

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Jun 05, 2008 3:37 pm 
By cweed4

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
As for SUB-M2 3 & M/GN 17, from Secret Wars up to about Web of Spider-Man 1 the symbiote's & Spider-Man's chronologies match up with a couple of exceptions. Since Spider-Man appears in both SUB-M2 3 & M/GN 17, my guess without checking the books is that the costume he's wearing IS the symbiote, but it's just not mentioned in the comics. I'm pretty sure that's the case here, as it's given a BTS for each issue, but I could be wrong.
<<<

I don't have SUB-M2 but if the Venom listing is correct based on Peter being in the symbiote costume then the placement in Spidey's chronology would be an error. Currently it is listed as:
ASM 258
ASM 259
SUB-M2 3
PPTSS 96

But, in ASM 258 Peter ditches the symbiote (when Reed discovers it IS a symbiote) and goes back to the red+blues in ASM 259.

As for M/GN 17, it has a double entry for Spidey. One is pre-258 and one is post-258. Again, it is a book I don't have  But, its placement could be troublesome if he is wearing the classic costume throughout. All of his other appearances between M/SHSW 12 and ASM 258 have him in the symbiote costume. This could be explained away but it is a curious difference.




As a side note I did compare the 2 chronologies for this time period and noticed a few discrepancies. Haven't had a chance to check them out yet but I might as well list them here for now.

VENOM :
PPTSS 91-BTS
M/TU 141-BTS
PPTSS 91-BTS
ASM 253-BTS
...
PPTSS@ 4-BTS
PPTSS@ 4/2-BTS
M/TU 146-BTS
...
PPTSS 98
ASM 260
FF 274 ~ ASM 261
...


SPIDEY
M/TU 141
PPTSS 91 (1 - 7)
ASM 253
PPTSS 91 (8 - 22)
...
M/TU 146
PPTSS@ 4
PPTSS@ 4/2
...
ASM 260
ASM 261
PPTSS 98

And the biggest one of all-

VENOM: (post-258)
ASM 259
*S-H2 29*
ASM 259

SPIDEY: (pre-SW)
ASM 245
S-H2 30-BTS
*S-H2 29*
ASM 245

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Jun 06, 2008 6:21 am 
By tobyoryamcha

Sorry admin I wasnt criticizing I was just saying why I couldnt find it based on your system on ebay or anything.
to answer your question which may have been rhetorical I put my books by charcter then chronological.
I always counted ongoings even cancelled ones as volumes, So i'd have Namor Volume 1, namor mini,Namor volume 2. on my shelf for example but you guys know better I was just saying why i got confused.

So back to the point I understand that BTS doesnt have to mean on panel. But this leaves 3 possibilities then I think.

1. (using the above logic) In a later comic the symbiote or venom or something says "I was watching you when the monolith was smashing down NY"
2. It was published at a time when in the core titles Spidey was wearing the symbiote. 
(a) He used the symibotes abilities to mimic the red and blues perhaps 'for a change' or to not confuse Cap-A (god rest him) and She-Hulk as to who he was.
(b) Artist error
(c) It was done on purpose, In which case it needs moving forward or back in the chrolongy to fit.
3. Human error on the MCP's part

I dont mind I'd just like the solve the mystery out of curiosity and know whether to put it in "Must own every Symbiote App" Box

Thanks for all the brainstorming so far, -Toby

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Jun 06, 2008 8:22 am 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

tobyoryamcha wrote:
>>>
Sorry admin I wasnt criticizing I was just saying why I couldnt find it based on your system on ebay or anything.
to answer your question which may have been rhetorical I put my books by charcter then chronological.
I always counted ongoings even cancelled ones as volumes, So i'd have Namor Volume 1, namor mini,Namor volume 2. on my shelf for example but you guys know better I was just saying why i got confused.
<<<

No, no...I didn't think of your comments as critical, nor was my question rhetorical. I was honestly curious as to how your filing system worked. Inherent in that was "what name do you give to the title we call "Sub-Mariner vol. 2"? If I'm reading you right, your answer would be "Namor mini."

Which is fine. But that can lead to some rather odd interpretations, too. Take Nightcrawler, who had a mini-series in the eighties, then a second mini-series in the nineties, followed by a twelve-issue run this decade. How would you refer to these three titles?

And again, I'm not trying to be argumentative, or make a point; you've found something that works for you. I'm just curious about how your system works.

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Jun 06, 2008 8:33 am 
By tobyoryamcha

Well i think its due to the fact that my collection is probably small compared to you guys, also most of mine are on book shelves not boxes. I only collect a few characters.

I put them in chronological order usally same as release date. so in the the example you mentioned id have the characters volume 1 comics lined up on shelf or box then the mini 1 then vol2 then mini 2 all in order of chronlogy.

The labels sticking out are char names i dont have a tab for each of their runs. or book.

For example i have a wolverine section and then in order from there. but i dont have tabs seperating the individual wolvie titles.

Again i think its because my collection is smaller.

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Jun 07, 2008 7:55 am 
By tobyoryamcha

Okay looking at spideys chronology page it appears all of his apps surroning MGN17 were with symbiote. So i asume you guys placed it there in stead of furhter forward or back is presumably due to the other characters involved making it so. 

Therefore this leaves us with two theories.

Error on marvels part. artist error didnt draw right costume.

He was wearing it and either chose for it to take the form of red and blues or we just have to pretend he was wearing it because it was an artists error.
So I have come to the conclusion that he was wearing it and its just a never-to-be-solved mystery why he chose to be in red and blues that day.

As there is no mention of "my suit from the secret wars" or on the other side his mechanical web shooters, it leaves us to have to choose for ourselves what we belive is best explanation.

Either hes wearing the black suit in camo mode in black in spite of artist error or its a couple of blocks away waiting at his home.

Im going to close this case and shove it in my symbiote/venom box anyway.

thanks for all the help

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Jun 07, 2008 11:59 am 
By cweed4

I looked at the discrepanices in the Venom/Spidey listings. The only one that is correct is the S-H2 29 entry. (It involves some wierd time-warping thing that I'm not going to try and figure out.) The rest of the entries are (as Col Fury described) BTS appearances by Venom as Spidey's costume. They do not have any other separate adventures in these issues. So-

Venom:
ASM 252-BTS
PPTSS 90-BTS
M/TU 141-BTS
PPTSS 91 (1 - 7)-BTS
ASM 253-BTS
PPTSS 91 (8 - 22)-BTS
H2 300-BTS
ASM 254-BTS
PPTSS 92-BTS
M/TU 142-BTS
M/TU 143-BTS
ASM 255-BTS
PPTSS 93-BTS
M/TU 144-BTS
M/GN 17-BTS
PPTSS 94-BTS
PPTSS 95-BTS
M/TU 145-BTS
ASM 256-BTS
VSS 1/2-FB
ASM 256-BTS
ASM 257-BTS
{ASM 258}
M/TU 146-BTS
PPTSS@ 4-BTS
PPTSS@ 4/2-BTS
ASM 258
ASM 259
S-H2 29
ASM 259
*removed* (SUB-M2 3-BTS)
PPTSS 97
M/TU 148
PPTSS 98
ASM 260
FF 274 ~ ASM 261
PPTSS 99

Unless SUB-M2 3 gets moved prior to ASM 258 it should not be listed for Venom. The M/GN 17-BTS listing stays w/ the unusual note of depicting Spidey in his red+blues. The final discrepancy (involving ASM 260/ASM 261/PPTSS 98) I have left as is for Venom. At that point the 2 have been separated. But, the ordering for Venom jives with my chronology for Spidey at that point. Hopefully, I will get around to making a detailed thread for that suggested Spidey change at some point.

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Jul 07, 2008 12:42 pm 
By cweed4

I finally found a copy of the Sub-Mariner 3 issue in question. The Spidey appearance is a single panel w/Peter walking on the street. In order to let the readers know who this average joe is, Marvel super-imposed the image of Spidey's face in the sky above him. The mask depicted is clearly from the black costume. So, the issue should be moved up slightly to between ASM 257 and ASM 258 for both Peter and Venom (while keeping it as a BTS for the latter.)

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Jul 07, 2008 2:23 pm 
By Ork

Can someone confirm (or tell me I'm wrong) that Venom does not appear in M/SHSW 7?
I've just re-read it and I don't see where it could be.

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Jul 08, 2008 9:18 am 
By cweed4

Checked my copy and I don't see it either. Unless a subsequent Venom story (PPTSS2 4-FB perhaps?) retroactively placed him into a scene there it seems like just an error.

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Thread 10

Subject: Spite chronology

Jul 08, 2008 1:07 pm 
By Ork

If I'm not confusing two characters, her first appearance is missing!

SPITE :
XU 12
JUGGERNAUT

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Thread 11

Subject: Alexander Ryking

Jul 09, 2008 9:13 am 
By Ork

He appears in X 10/2 and X 11/2.
I don't own XMF 4 but I suppose it happens before his death in X 11/2.

RYKING, ALEXANDER 
X 12-FB
X 13-FB
XMF 4
{X 10/2}
X 11/2

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Thread 12

Jul 06, 2008 8:52 am 
By Enda80

A point of clarification on the Yellow Claw's entry: it was the true Yellow Claw behind the attack on the Statue of Liberty in Strange Tales I#160 to Strange Tales I#161, not the robot double of him created by Doctor Doom. Therefore, neither Doctor Doom or the Prime Mover deserve BTS credit for ST I#160.

According to the Yellow Claw's Handbook entry, 

"In more recent years the Yellow Claw sent troops whom he had reduced to slaves with no wills of their own to invade the Statue of Liberty secretly. There the troops were to activate an "id paralyzer" device that was to sap the wills of the people of the United States, thereby enabling the Yellow Claw to take over the country. This scheme was thwarted, however, by Colonel Nicholas Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Captain America, who used a special weapon designed by Reed Richards. The Yellow Claw, himself did not come to the Statue of Liberty, but instead directed his troops through psionic means from afar." 

The Handbook lists the Yellow Claw's "telepathic voice" as appearing in Strange Strange Tales I#160. The wording above suggests it was in fact the true Yellow Claw who directed the Statue of Liberty invasion. The Fantastic Four Index#3's entries for FF Annual#3, when referencing the appearance of Captain America, Nick Fury, the Thing, and Mister Fantastic in the fb story in Strange Tales I#160-161 simply describe the incident as the "Yellow Claw's New York invasion" as does the comments section. In the Avengers Index#1 (1987), in the entry for Avengers I#18, under comments, the incident is again described as the "Yellow Claw's New York invasion" and refers to the "Yellow Claw's minions". 

Strange Tales I#160 was published in 1967. The story proper commenced with a flashback to the 1965 New York Blackout (an actual historical event, obviously a topical reference; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_ ... t_of_1965; Olshevsky in Avengers Index#1 entry for Avengers I#18 dismisses the reference to November in this story as topical and states the Statue of Liberty incident took place in June, shortly after Reed and Sue married in Avengers Annual#3, a construal that Marvel Saga#23 elaborates upon by saying that it took place just after Reed and Sue got married and Sue moved her things out of Glenville), as Fury, teamed with Captain America to investigate reports of costumed invaders on Bedloe's Island in the Statue of Liberty. This flashback story continues into #161. In the present of 1967, Fury related, "We never located the source of the invasion... or who was behind it!". 

In the present day portion of the story, a figure resembling the Yellow Claw is seen observing Nick Fury, Captain America, and Jimmy Woo from a scrying crystal. This figure was revealed to be a Doctor Doom built double of the Yellow Claw, and is the Yellow Claw robot whose chronology entry appears below. However, as I have noted above, the Statue of Liberty incident took place "two years" earlier and the Handbook and Indexes credit the true Yellow Claw with masterminding it. 

So in sum, the true Yellow Claw was bts to the fb to the "1965" Statue of Liberty incident shown in Strange Tales I#160-161, while the "Yellow Claw" seen observing Captain America, Fury, and Woo in the present of "1967" in #161 was the Doom-built Robot. 

Sidebar question: Was Tales of Suspense #78, published in 1966, supposed to represent the reunion of Fury and Cap in the modern era?

YELLOW CLAW/TZING JAO/"BHAGWAN SRI ANANDA"
INV 41
YC 1
YC 1/3
YC 1/5
YC 2
YC 2/3
YC 2/4
YC 2/6
YC 3
YC 3/3
YC 3/4
YC 3/6
YC 4
YC 4/3
YC 4/4
YC 4/6
CA 166-FB
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 7 ~ M/:LG 3
M/:LG 3
**{ST 160-FB-BTS}
ST 161-FB-BTS
CA 164
CA 165
.................................



YELLOW CLAW ROBOT
{ST 161}
ST 162
ST 163
ST 164/2
ST 165
ST 166/2
ST 167

Since the true Yellow was behind the Statue of Liberty incident, then that means that Doctor Doom and the Prime Mover had nothing to do with it, therefore, they only receive BTS credit for the present portion of Strange Tales I#161 Therefore:

DOCTOR DOOM

FF 40
FF 43
FF@ 3
ST 161-BTS
A 24
A 25
FF 56
FF 57
FF 58


PRIME MOVER
ST 161-BTS
ST 162-BTS
ST 163-BTS
ST 164/2-BTS
ST 165-BTS
ST 166/2-BTS
ST 167
GSDEF 3
MOKF 59

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Jul 10, 2008 7:01 pm 
By Enda80

I should also note that the Bedloe Island invaders were captured by SHIELD and I have come across no mention of them being robots; Doctor Doom's Suwan and Voltzmann robots were easily exposed upon examination.

Quick note about the Yellow Claw; I posted a thread about a continuity issue http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3904.

Incidentally, the letters page to What If I#22 first established that (one guesses framing sequence aside), What If#9 did not take place on Earth-616.


However, as I recall, Contest of Champions#3, in its appendix to Marvel characters, did reference info from What If I#9, as did the Master Edition of the Handbook for the 3-D Man and Marvel Boy II entries. 

http://www.geocities.com/jjnevins/wicks9.html
Marvel Boy fought an evil automaton called the Human Robot. Defeating the robot, Marvel Boy used his knowledge of Uranian science to re-program the robot so that it fought for good.
[Contest of Champions #3]

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Jul 10, 2008 8:54 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Enda80, I've moved this post of yours because there was no need to revive an eight month old thread for the information presented. You've said nothing contesting the chronology of the Yellow Claw in relation to Agents of ATLAS 1-6 here, so I've merged it with you most recent post.

-Daron Jensen

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Thread 13

Subject: X-Force & Cable '95, '96 & '97

Jul 12, 2008 11:26 am 
By Ork

According to the key, it should be
xf&c '95, xf&c '96, xf&c '97
but the chronologies use
xfor&c '95, xfor '96, xfor '97.

Which is wrong ? The key or the chronologies ?

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Jul 12, 2008 11:39 am 
By Somebody
Director

The Key. X-Force should always be coded as XFOR to avoid confusion with X-Factor (which gets XF).

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Jul 12, 2008 12:06 pm 
By Ork

I agree with you for xfor&c '95
What about xfor&c '96 and xfor&c '97 ?
In the chronologies, they are listed as xfor '96 and xfor '97.

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Thread 14

Subject: Gambit

Jul 14, 2008 2:12 pm 
By Ork

Gambit's chronology mentions EXVS 0.
I suppose it's EXVX 0.

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Thread 15

Subject: ASM @16 chronology

Jul 09, 2008 11:09 am 
By tlynch

Hi all,

The current chronology for Spider-Man has ASM @16 immediately following PPTSSM 74, but that's not feasible -- PPTSSM 74 goes directly into PPTSSM 75.

Since the annual appears to be modular, I'd propose that we just swap them, giving:

PPTSS 73
M/TU 124
M/TU 125
ASM 237
ASM@ 16
PPTSS 74
PPTSS 75

Thoughts?

TWL

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Jul 09, 2008 1:54 pm 
By cweed4

This listing must have been recently changed. It had been-
PPTSS 79
ASM@ 16
M/FAN 6

I don't know why it was moved but it was just fine before. If it is altered I would suggest putting it back to its original position.

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Jul 15, 2008 10:59 am 
By cweed4

Re-read this issue and still don't know why it was moved to its current placement. There are a number of character appearances from the FF+Avengers but nothing relevant to Spidey chronology that suggests it needed to be moved. It has a reference to FF 242 w/ the Baxter building destruction and must precede A 227 w/ Captain Marvel's debut in that book. Not sure if there was a conflict with any of that previously. But, as noted originally, it can't work between 74+75 because of the continuous story there. 

The only problem I see with shifting it back to after PPTSS 79 is the suggested movement of M/TU 128 (which also features Cap) in tlynch's other thread*. If that argument is accepted then perhaps ASM@ 16 would need to go in front of PPTSS 74 as tlynch suggests. (It would also avoid the awkward idea of Peter trying to "check out the lovely lady" Ms. Rambeau while his girlfriend Black Cat is laid up in the hospital.  )

*Is it possible to merge these 2 threads 

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Thread 16

Subject: green goblin v in pptss 18?

Jul 16, 2008 10:26 pm 
By newtron

green goblin v's current chronology:

GREEN GOBLIN V
S-M 88
SENSM 25
ASM 432
S-M 89
PPTSS 255
PPTSS 259
PPTSS 260
PPTSS 261
ASM2 18
PPTSS 18

is that last entry a mistake? i just read peter parker, the spectacular spiderman 18 and saw no trace of any green goblin. am i missing something?

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Jul 17, 2008 6:42 am 
By JD

This is probably a typo for PPTSS2 18 (cf. the ASM2 18 listing just before).

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Jul 17, 2008 8:29 am 
By newtron

yeah that's what i figured. i just wanted to make sure there wasn't some kind of weird time travel thing i wasn't aware of.

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Jul 17, 2008 11:43 am 
By Somebody
Director

Actually, it should be PPSM2 18, rather than PPTSS anything 

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Thread 17

Subject: WOSM 113

Jun 10, 2008 10:07 am 
By cweed4

Came across a little bit of missing info for WOSM 113 and thought I would try to update it. (Currently, it only lists appearances for Spidey and Facade.) Here is a list of other characters from that issue that need correcting.


BANNON, LANCE 
S-M 47
***WOSM 113***
WOSM 114

BLACK CAT/FELICIA HARDY 
BCAT 4
***WOSM 113***
MORBIUS 29

BRYCE, ARCHER 
***{WOSM 113}***
WOSM 115
WOSM 116

COOPER, COLE 
***{WOSM 113}***
***WOSM 114***
WOSM 115
WOSM 116

JAMESON, COL. JOHN (Also MAN-WOLF) 
WOSM@ 10
***WOSM 113***
WOSM 114
ASM 391 

JAMESON, J. JONAH 
NO2 3-FB
***WOSM 113***
WOSM 114
WOSM 115 

JAMESON, MARLA MADISON 
PPTSS 211-BTS
***WOSM 113***
PPTSS 216

KAFKA, DR. ASHLEY 
WOSM@ 10
***WOSM 113***
ASM 390

LEEDS, BETTY BRANT 
PPTSS 210
***WOSM 113***
WOSM 114
WOSM 115

POWELL, AMY 
***{ASM 230}***
***ASM 239***
***ASM 240***
***ASM 241***
***ASM 242***
***ASM 243***
***WOSM 113***
***WOSM 114***
WOSM 115
WOSM 116 

I also looked up the original appearances for Amy Powell and added those to her listing. I knew Lance had a girlfriend that made the moves on Peter at one point and figured it had to be the same chick  

URICH, BEN
NO2 3-FB
***WOSM 113***
WOSM 114
WOSM 116

GAMBIT/REMY LEBEAU 
SM:MA 1
X@ 2
[GAM4 10-FB]
A 368
X 26
AWC 101
UX 307
A 369
XU 3
UX 308
X 28
UX 310
X 30
WI?2 60-BTS
X 30
WI?2 60
X 30
X:WA/2
X 30
WI?2 60
X 31
X 32
UX 312
UX 313
X 33
X 34
***WOSM 113***
DD 330
C2 16
UX 318
X@ 3
W2 87
W2 89
XU 7
BSHP 4
X 38
R 1
R 2
R 3
R 4
M/HOL 1994-BTS
X 40
UX 321
X 41
C2 20
X:PRIME
X 42-BTS
UX 323
UX 324
W/G 1
W/G 2
W/G 3
W/G 4
DCVM 1

The Gambit placement is somewhat guesswork. I listed such a long section because I know that WOSM 113 has to fall between certain appearances that he shares w/ Spidey chronology (ie, SM:MA 1 & DCVM 1). His appearance in DD 330 would place him in the NY area between various X-title adventures. Plus, that comic is placed shortly before DD + Spidey appear together in ASMU 6 (which occurs not too long after WOSM 113). Any info that would place this more precisely before or after DD 330 would be helpful.


NEW CHARACTERS-

WILSON, MIKE 
{WOSM 113}

HANEY, DR. THOMAS 
{WOSM 113}

VICTOR (BRYCE'S ASST.) 
{WOSM 113}
WOSM 114
WOSM 115
WOSM 116

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Jul 17, 2008 12:03 pm 
By cweed4

Came across another cameo appearance for Amy Powell in PPTSS 78.

POWELL, AMY 
{ASM 230}
ASM 239
***PPTSS 78***
ASM 240
ASM 241
ASM 242
ASM 243
WOSM 113
WOSM 114
WOSM 115
WOSM 116

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Thread 18

Subject: brother power chronology

Jul 16, 2008 10:50 pm 
By newtron

there is no chronology for this character that i could see. i can't remember how the mcp counts page numbers; the ones listed below are if we only count content pages (ie no ads), starting from with the splash page as 1.

BROTHER POWER/ACHMED KORBA
PPTSS 12-FB (12:3-12:5)
PPTSS 13-FB
PPTSS 12-FB (13:2-13:4)
PPTSS 3-BTS
PPTSS 4
PPTSS 5
PPTSS 7
PPTSS 8
PPTSS 12
PPTSS 13
PPTSS 14
PPTSS 15

also, should sha shan's entry be changed to SISTER SUN/SHA SHAN?

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Jul 17, 2008 8:31 am 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

newtron wrote:
>>>
BROTHER POWER/ACHMED KORBA
PPTSS 3-BTS
<<<

What's the nature of the BTS appearance?


watching: lost

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Jul 17, 2008 8:37 am 
By newtron

from http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/bropowsp.htm
>>>
(Spectacular Spider-Man II#3-BTS) - Flash Thompson, who had met Sha Shan during a military action sometime before, saw her working as waitress. He ran up to greet her, but she fled from him, and Flash was thrown out of the restaurant for creating a disturbance.
...
Spectacular Spider-Man II#4 references Korba as the same guy that had thrown them out of the restaurant in the previous issue. It was not the same guy we saw in issue#3, but Korba was the owner of the restaurant, so he may have just been off-panel.
<<<

the reference in pptss 4 is a thought from peter when he sees korba: "it's the guy who hustled us out last time!"

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Jul 17, 2008 11:42 am 
By Somebody
Director

Uh... is this based on comics you've read, or on the Appendix's listings? Because the MCP only accepts stuff you can substantiate for yourself.

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Jul 17, 2008 11:47 am 
By newtron

no, i read them. i just had that window open anyway and it was easier to copy/paste than type that up myself. the appendix doesn't have the page/panel breakdowns, for example.

the spider-man project: http://spiderman.whiskeyclone.net

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Jul 17, 2008 11:14 pm 
By Starman

I peeked inside my copy of "Essential Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man Vol. 1" and can confirm Newtron's observation.- Stefan

"Why so serious?"
- The Joker

"What, me worry?"
- Alfred E. Neuman

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Thread 19

Subject: Early Defenders chronology

Jul 18, 2008 7:15 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

LAST DEFENDERS #5 features some flashbacks containing new material that weaves in and out of MARVEL FEATURE #1:

LAST DEFENDERS #5 -- FB (13-15:4)
Nighthawk, Yandroth
MARVEL FEATURE #1 (2-4:1)
Dr. Strange, Wong, Yandroth
LAST DEFENDERS #5 -- FB (16:3)
Dr. Strange, Yandroth
MARVEL FEATURE #1 (4:2-16)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Silver Surfer, Yandroth, Omegatron
LAST DEFENDERS #5 -- FB (10-11:2)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Omegatron
MARVEL FEATURE #1 (17:1)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Omegatron
LAST DEFENDERS #5 -- FB (11:3)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner
MARVEL FEATURE #1 (17:2)
Hulk, Sub-Mariner
LAST DEFENDERS #5 -- FB (11:4-11:6)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner
MARVEL FEATURE #1 (17:3-17:8)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner
LAST DEFENDERS #5 -- FB (12)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner
MARVEL FEATURE #1 (18-19)
Dr. Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Omegatron

My page/panel ranges for M/FEA 1 are not from the original comic, but rather from a reprint in MARVEL TREASURY EDITION #16, so they should be checked.

Paul B.

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Thread 20

Subject: GSS-M 1

Jul 18, 2008 5:10 pm 
By Ork

Dr Bromwell's chronology includes GSSM 1
I suppose it's GSS-M 1.

Is starting a new topic for each correction the right thing to do?

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Jul 18, 2008 6:16 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

If you're looking for your suggestions to ever actually make it into the listings, then yes, you want to start a new topic.


watching: house

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Thread 21

Subject: DIAMONDHEAD/DYKER in Darkhawk/New Warriors story question

Jul 16, 2008 7:23 pm 
By Enda80

Diamondhead/Dyker, as I recall, appeared in a Darkhawk/New Warriors story involving time travel. Was it around Darkhawk#26? I do not see it in his chronology. I think in #29, the New Warriors time traveled back to some previous stories or events. Were some of these previously unseen events?

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Jul 18, 2008 8:02 pm 
By Enda80

Okay, I finally managed to skim a quarter bin copy of New Warriors I#29, and some of the scenes that the New Warriors travel to:

*Speedball goes to the scene where his parents have their last argument before divorcing 
*Namorita seems to go to an event in Trans-Sabal
*Firestar goes to the scene just before Vance Astro of Earth-616 slew his father
*Night Thrasher to just before Chord slew his father and mother
*Darkhawk gets transported to just after his battle with Lodestone where Bazin and his father attacked each other
*Nova gets transported to that FF scene where he left the Corps and surrender his Nova powers on Xanadar. Was this Rom#24? 
*Silhouette to the scene where Tai killed her mother

Should these get added as synchronous appearances?

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Jul 18, 2008 9:23 pm 
By lkseitz

Enda80 wrote:
>>>
Okay, I finally managed to skim a quarter bin copy of New Warriors I#29, and some of the scenes that the New Warriors travel to:
<<<

Could you check that comic title and number again. It's not New Warriors vol. 1, #29, as that issue features no time travel but rather Force of Nature.


Enda80 wrote:
>>>
*Nova gets transported to that FF scene where he left the Corps and surrender his Nova powers on Xanadar. Was this Rom#24?
<<<

Sounds like it.

Lee K. Seitz 
Slowly adding insignificant characters to the MCP

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Jul 18, 2008 9:31 pm 
By Enda80

Darkhawk#26-29 are the issues in question, thanks for the correction.

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Thread 22

Subject: Body-only appearances

Jul 12, 2008 11:27 am 
By Somebody
Director

Right now, there are two explicitly-noted sets of body-only appearances in the MCP. And both are done differently:

The Professor X/Cassandra Nova swap in Morrison's X-Men is done with normal appearances in the entries of the character who appears in mind, but separate PROFESSOR X'S BODY and CASSANDRA NOVA'S BODY chronologies to avoid having an appearance of their bodies in their chronologies when they're not in it.

On the other hand, the appearances of Daytripper's mum in her body are included in both chronologies, with "(Body only; possessed by Margali Szardos)" notes beside the relevant issues in Daytripper's chronology, and " (in Daytripper's body)" notes in Szardos'.

Could these maybe be rationalised into one form of note?

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Jul 12, 2008 1:33 pm 
By Enda80

The inestimable Don Campbell pointed out that Loki usurped Odin's corpus for several issues of Thor, as well as an issue of the Infinity Gauntlet. 

http://www.chronologyproject.com/wwwboard/messages/4186.htm

Note, this is not a dead link, it still works.

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Jul 13, 2008 1:36 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

Generally speaking, if only a character's body appears it's a BTS. If a character appears disguised it's a full appearance. 

With Daytripper & Szardos, I would say switch Daytripper's entries for those two issues to BTSs. It's only her body appearing, controlled by Szardos. Szardos I would think should be full appearances, as it's Szardos appearing in the disguise of Daytripper's body. If needed, add a |cf| somewhere. 

Xavier is listed as BTS for the issues his body has a chronology for. Nova is listed as BTS for those same issues in her chronology. Nova's body is also listed for those same issues. Without checking the books or the Archives, I'll take a stab and say the reason their bodies have chronologies is because is a strange beast. Leave it as it is. 

Two cents!

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 18, 2008 8:43 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
Generally speaking, if only a character's body appears it's a BTS. If a character appears disguised it's a full appearance.
<<<

As I understand what we're talking about here, it's actually the opposite. See below.


>>>
Xavier is listed as BTS for the issues his body has a chronology for. Nova is listed as BTS for those same issues in her chronology. Nova's body is also listed for those same issues.
<<<

That's purely coincidence, though. Xavier is listed as BTS because his consciousness is controlling another body; there's no correlation to his body appearing in those books at the same time. The same applies for Cassandra Nova. Nova was (behind the scenes) controlling Professor X's body (which was seen on panel). Professor X was (behind the scenes) controlling Nova's on-screen body.

Generally speaking, if a character's body appears, it's an actual appearance, regardless of where their consciousness is (see, for instance, the cases of comas, or corpses). If a character A's mind is controlling character B's body, then character A receives a behind-the-scenes appearance, and character B receives a full-fledged appearance. 

I'm not sure offhand what reasoning led to our listing these appearances by Professor X and Cassandra Nova the way we have; this seems to be an ordinary body/mind swap, and we would normally just list them both as regular appearances, without the need to distinguish between "body" and "soul" appearances. Anyone out there have a better memory than I do?


watching: googam, son of goom

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Jul 18, 2008 9:00 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Administrator wrote:
>>>
Generally speaking, if a character's body appears, it's an actual appearance, regardless of where their consciousness is (see, for instance, the cases of comas, or corpses). If a character A's mind is controlling character B's body, then character A receives a behind-the-scenes appearance, and character B receives a full-fledged appearance.
<<<

Even when it's fully known from the start (both to readers & the other characters) that character A is in character B's body? (actually, in the instance I'm thinking of - ANNCONQ 5-6 - this part doesn't matter, since Ultron spends at least part of both issues in a body styled after his own, as well as Adam Warlock's. It's Warlock's listing I needed clarification on, since only his body appears in #5 - it's not a body swap, his soul's just thrown out - and this seems to have provided it)

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Jul 18, 2008 9:19 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

Somebody wrote:
>>>
Even when it's fully known from the start (both to readers & the other characters) that character A is in character B's body? 
<<<

Don't really see where that would matter. If Dr. Doom's mind is inhabiting Reed's body, and both the reader's and the rest of the FF know it, but we don't actually see Dr. Doom, then Doom would receive a BTS appearance, and Reed would be full-fledged.


watching: moombahh, the toad that walks like a man

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Jul 18, 2008 9:37 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Okay. It just seemed a tad strange that if (e.g.) Prof X remote-controlled Cassandra Nova and thus "her" words and actions were actually his using her body, it's an OP; but if he's actually in her body doing the exact same stuff, it gets the lesser ("trumped by OP") BTS, rather than the greater full-appearance. I just wanted to be sure I had you right

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Jul 18, 2008 9:47 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

Somebody wrote:
>>>
Okay. It just seemed a tad strange that if (e.g.) Prof X remote-controlled Cassandra Nova and thus "her" words and actions were actually his using her body, it's an OP;
<<<

No...

It might be a VO, but that's another discussion.

OP is literally there, but off-panel. Let's say that the Human Torch is in one panel of a story. He's eating lunch at the table and he says "Hey, Ben, would you please pass the jelly?" We don't actually see the Thing at all, but we can assume that Ben is right there, sitting next to Johnny, just off camera, or off panel.


watching: boombarr the colossus

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Thread 23

Subject: Warlock (first series) dates

Jul 19, 2008 8:25 pm 
By Ork

The key indicates 1975-1976 for Warlock (first series). It should be 1972-1976.

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Thread 24

Subject: DD@ 2

DD@ 2 appears in the chronology for Ultra-Max.
Isn't DD@ 2 only reprint material?
According to marvunapp.com, Ultra-Max appears in DD@ 8.

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Jul 21, 2008 8:33 am 
By Somebody
Director

The GCD certainly says that DD@ 2 is reprint-only (of DD 10 & 11), and lists Ultra-Max amongst their character list for DD@ 8/1

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Thread 25

Subject: More early '80s Spider-Man corrections

Jul 11, 2008 8:53 am 
By tlynch

Hi all,

The current chronology for Spider-Man has the following:

PPTSS 76
PPTSS 77
ASM 238
ASM 239
PPTSS 78
PPTSS 79
M/FAN 6
KZ3 21
KZ3 22
KZ3 23
KZ3 24
KZ3 25
KZ3 26
M/TU 127
M/TU 128

Some of that has some contradictions, so far as I can tell.

1) In PPTSS 77, Doc Ock says that he'll be back "in 24 hours" to finish Spider-Man and the Black Cat off, and most of issue 78 is spent on Peter saying goodbyes of sorts to everyone he knows. As such, I have difficulty seeing the Hobgoblin introduction of ASM 238-239 fitting there, especially since 238 itself takes at least a few days.

2) In PPTSS 78, when Peter is at the Daily Bugle, he references a lot of pictures he's taken recently, including Vermin. His battle with Vermin is in M/TU 128, so that must be occurring prior to PPTSS 78.

There's a break point between PPTSS 76 and 77 of uncertain duration, and I think that's a good place to put a lot of these stories. All of the references to Black Cat being in the hospital and Doc Ock being on the loose are still valid there, and there isn't yet the 24-hour deadline imposed by Ock.

That means we'd have PPTSS 76
ASM 238
ASM 239
M/TU 127
M/TU 128
PPTSS 77
PPTSS 78
PPTSS 79
M/FAN 6
KZ3 21
KZ3 22
KZ3 23
KZ3 24
KZ3 25
KZ3 26


I don't own the issues of Marvel Fanfare or Ka-Zar in question, so I don't know how those would fit.

Thoughts? Ideas?

TWL

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Jul 14, 2008 11:44 am 
By cweed4

I agree with the need to move MTU 127+128 because of the Vermin photos (and the appearances by Captain America in both issues). As far as moving PPTSS 77, I don't think it should be moved based on Doc Ock's quote. I've found that temporal references like that are so commonly problematic that they can be easily explained away if not outright ignored. (My favorite example of this comes from Spidey's Web of Doom mini that is supposed to take place over 6! weeks.  ) 

The Fanfare and Kazar issues work just fine.



*edited for a brain fart

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Jul 21, 2008 12:50 pm 
By cweed4

I got a chance to take a better look over this stretch of Spidey comics, so let me take another stab at this. I am now going to agree w/ tlynch's re-arrangement of PPTSS 77. However, I would also move MTU 127 even earlier (to right after ASM 237). This issue has an appearance from Cap that is referenced in MTU 128. The only other useful continuity clue in it has Aunt May throwing a x-mas party at her boarding house (which was started in MTU 124). Peter begins the issue in a rather cheerful mood and there is no mention made of Felicia. For that reason it does not fit well between PPTSS 76+78 or within the confines of the "24 hour" problem. 

Since we have to move the 2 MTU issues I would suggest the following changes that would work best story-wise:

Spidey
ASM 237
M/TU 127
ASM@ 16*
PPTSS 74
PPTSS 75
PPTSS 76
ASM 238
ASM 239
PPTSS 77
M/TU 128
PPTSS 78
PPTSS 79
M/FAN 6
KZ3 21
KZ3 22
KZ3 23
KZ3 24
KZ3 25
KZ3 26
ASM 240


*This new placement is based on another current thread. Putting MTU 127 in front of ASM@ 16 would also have to done for Captian America as well.

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Thread 26

Subject: Spidey pre-Clone Saga adjustments

Jul 23, 2008 1:32 pm 
By cweed4

Ahh, the Clone Saga.The previous king of Spider-man continuity conundrums. Apparently though, the mess of Spidey continuity began before WOSM 117. This stretch really is a tangled web to decipher with 4 regular titles (5 counting ASMU), numerous guest appearances and a few mini-series thrown in while the editors/writers attempted to set up a reboot for the character. I'm not sure its even possible to make a realistic chronology without some discrepancies. I do think, though, that some of the current listing needs to be tweaked.

The short guest appearances in PWJ work much better placed before the WOSM "Live and Let Die" (aka Who is FACADE?) storyline. These issues (113-116) are written as one big continuous story with each ending leading directly into the next opening. To avoid complicating an already difficult situation these cameos should be moved up slightly in front of the whole clone saga "prologue". 

S-M 47 is problematic because its opening sequence establishes that at least a week has passed. Also, the opening scene from issue 48 continues from the ending of 47. Unfortunately, because of other continuity references these issues can't take place back-to-back. (The wiggle room here is that the scene in question involves Kraven and Macendale off in Russia.) But, clearly, the placement of 47 & 48 need to be fairly close together while 46 & 47 need some separation. 

Now comes the point at which things start to get screwy with 3 of the 4 monthly titles putting out continuous 4-part stories while referencing each other back and forth. A lot of this comes in the form of cut-away scenes involving the mystery man that would be "Peter Parker". Using this Ben Reilly chronology is the best way to untangle the mess. There is a missing entry for Ben from PPTSS 215 (where he is "miles west") which needs to go after WOSM 115 (when he learns about Aunt May's stroke) and between S-M 49 (where he leaves his job) and WOSM 116 (when he arrives in NYC). The problem here is that the beginning of WOSM 116 has to directly follow the ending of WOSM 115 because its a continuation of the same fight scene. The best way around this is to eliminate the double entry for WOSM 115 and instead make a split of WOSM 116 after page 4 when the fight concludes. The events of ASMU 6 and the Annex mini specifically reference PPTSS 215 and thus need to be maintained in order after that issue. Additionally, the story in ASMU 6 takes place the morning after PPTSS 215 based on the headlines for the current day newspaper on sale. This would place it immediately before the Annex mini and not after (since Annex references the same events but takes place longer than 1 day). All of this pushes WOSM 116 after those issues (and also, for the sake of convenience, the 1 panel cameo in SSWP 30).

Now comes the biggest dilemma of this period. At the end of ASM 393, in a moment of great frustration, Spidey declares himself "The Spider" and Peter Parker is no more. Well, this little device is mentioned at least 6 other times across his many appearances. Seemingly, all of these references should occur after he makes such a declaration. Sadly this is not the case. Its used in S-M 49, ASMU 6, and WOSM 116 which all have to take place prior to ASM 393 for various reasons. Only in S-M 50 is it used where events have to be after ASM 393. He also uses it during SM:AP on 2 different occasions. In issue 3 he does so to re-affirm himself as the "Spider". However, at the conclusion of the series he starts to reject this very same idea and see the need to embrace his human side. For this reason I see the need to put ASM 393 prior to this mini. Another argument for this same move involves a note from MJ at the end of 393 which says she is leaving to take a break from their difficult situation. Now, its bad enough that Peter abandons his responsibility to May after her stroke but the current chronology suggests he does the same to MJ by going off on adventures in Arachnis Project and Solo 1-4. However, by moving ASM 393 (and the note in question) before those 2 series it allows for the notion that he thinks MJ took off and the only one he is not helping out is May. (And, since she's comatose anyway, whats the big deal.  ) This also makes his appearances in CLAN 6+7 more appropriate by placing them after his "reclamation" in SM:AP 6 rather than immediately following the declaration of ASM 393. The cameo in FFU 7 would then also need to be shifted since he is taking photos for the Bugle (something a "Spider" would not do). 


SCARLET SPIDER/BEN REILLY:
WOSM 114 (Aunt May is healthy)
S-M 48 (talks to MJ, post-stroke)
WOSM 115 (learns of stroke)
S-M 49 (leaves job)
*PPTSS 215* (miles west) 
WOSM 116 (arrives in NY)
ASM 393 (visits Gwen's grave & Midtown High, says he "just got into town")
S-M 50 (in May's house)
PPTSS 216 (runs into Peter at hospital)
WOSM 117 (clone saga begins  )

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER:
WOSM@ 10
ASM@ 28 (inserted based on Col_Fury analysis thread)
S-M 46
PROWL 1 (inserted based on future analysis thread  )
PPTSS 213
PPTSS 214
MORBIUS 21
MORBIUS 22
MORBIUS 23
SS3 93
BCAT 1
Q 60
PPTSS@ 14
BCAT 4
ASMU 11/2
PWJ 67
PWJ 68
S-M 47
WOSM 113
WOSM 114
ASM 390
ASM 391
ASM 392 (1-15:2) added page breakdowns
S-M 48
WOSM 115
WOSM 116 (1-4)
S-M 49
PPTSS 215
ASMU 6
ANNEX 1
ANNEX 3
ANNEX 4
SSWP 30
WOSM 116 (5-22)
ASM 392 (15:3-23) added page breakdowns
ASM 393
SOLO 1
SOLO 2
SOLO 3
SOLO 4
SM:AP 1
SM:AP 2
SM:AP 3
SM:AP 4
SM:AP 5
SM:AP 6
CLAN 6
CLAN 7
FFU 7
S-M 50
PPTSS 216
WOSM 117

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Thread 27

Subject: Flashbacks in Invincible Iron Man #3

Jul 23, 2008 10:11 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

FWIW, I think I have placements for the flashbacks on pages 12-13 of Invincible Iron Man #3.

12:1 (featuring Stane and Stark)
between 15:1 and 15:2 of IM 173

12:2-12:3 (featuring Rhodey, Stane, and Stark)
between 21:3 and 21:4 of IM 173

12:4-13:1 (featuring Stane and Stark)
just before IM 182

13:2-13:4 (FB-FB featuring Stane)
before IM 162

13:5 (featuring Stark)
between pages 9 and 10 of IM 200

Paul B.

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Thread 28

Subject: M/TU 150 placement

Jul 29, 2008 8:00 am 
By tlynch

Hi all,

The current placement in Spider-Man's chronology lists the following:

M/TU 149
ASM 262
PPTSS 99
ASM 263
PPSM2 25-FB
ASM 266-FB
PPTSS 100
WOSM 1
M/TU 150

However, there are several significant problems I see in the placement of M/TU 150:

1) In M/TU 150, Peter thinks about the black costume and talks about needing Reed Richards to get it off him. If this really takes place just after WOSM 1, presumably that encounter with the costume would be higher up in his mind.

2) A few pages before that, Peter thinks about the Black Cat and refers to her as "my girl", which strongly implies this takes place before PPTSS 100.

3) While in costume, Peter refers to the Osborns' baby as "due soon". Since the baby is born in ASM 263, this must take place before that.

So I'd suggest that M/TU be moved as follows:

M/TU 149
M/TU 150
ASM 262
PPTSS 99
ASM 263
PPSM2 25-FB
ASM 266-FB
PPTSS 100
WOSM 1

I don't see anything in PPTSS 99 to suggest that it must take place first, so I'd move M/TU 150 way up.

TWL

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Thread 29

Subject: Celestials (group) chronological appearances?

Jul 30, 2008 8:42 pm 
By greboguru

Hello all,

This is my first post here. I apologize if I'm asking something which has already been discussed. Also, if I'm breaking any rules or posting in the wrong forum, please forgive my ignorance. I'll be happy to revise my post or whatever else is called for. Anyway...

I LOVE THE CHRONOLOGY PROJECT!!!!!

I have found it incredibly useful. It's amazing. What a stupefying body of work. I can only imagine that Marvel's own editors must use the site a lot. Be that as it may, I've found that the site doesn't seem to do much Cross-Referencing (as it were). What I'm talking about is teams and/or groups. In my case, I'm specifically referring to the Celestials. 

I've decided I MUST read every story that features them. (Giant Kirbian space gods, dude!) The chronology has made it possible for me to track down every issue in which the Celestials have appeared, and that ROCKS. However, the problem is that the Project only lists the chronological appearances of characters -- not teams. So although I know each appearance of, say, Arishem The Judge AND each appearance of Hargen The Measurer, I don't know the order in which their appearances happened.

For example (seriously, I'm totally making this up), let's say that in some comic Arishem evolves an alien race, then in his next appearance he punishes a space monster, and in his next appearance he attends a meeting with the other Celestials. (Around a cosmic water cooler.) Meanwhile, in some other comics, Hargen maps the universe, in his next appearance he tests the Hulk's strength, in his subsequent appearance he decides a race's evolutionary lifespan, and then he too attends the Celestial meeting. So. I know the order of each Celestial's appearance... but what I DON'T know is where their stories fit in with each other.

Has this been covered before? Am I asking for the impossible?

Thanks,

Grebo

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Jul 31, 2008 2:14 am 
By John Simons

I once compiled a full chronology of the mainstay Avengers (not all 80 of them, mind you, but the all the top guys you would associate with the team) by simply cut and pasting the individual chronologies and "shuffling" them together so they were one linear chronology. It was a crude and time consuming way of going about it, but it worked!

"Jessica, whatever you do...don't contradict the continuity! They'll eat you alive! They'll. Eat. You. Alive!"

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Jul 31, 2008 6:40 am 
By greboguru

Makes sense... but how does one decide on where to "shuffle" each appearance? Did you just make it up? Herein lies my dilemma...

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Jul 31, 2008 8:52 am 
By cweed4

You're just going to have to do a lot of cross-referencing. I have limited myself to the extensive chronology of Spider-Man but did a similar thing by incorporating Ben Reilly appearances into my list. That was only 2 characters, and they obviously line up fairly easily w/ separate appearances, but it still took a little time to put together. I would recommend just putting all their individual lists onto a simple spreadsheet and first line up the common appearances. Things should come into focus a little easier that way.

Good luck w/ the project and welcome to the site.

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Jul 31, 2008 8:39 pm 
By greboguru

Huh. So then, I guess nobody around here has undertaken such a project. Plum.

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Thread 30

Subject: Earth X 5-8

Jul 01, 2008 4:03 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

Earth X #5
Appearances: 
X-51, Uatu, Black Bolt, Medusa, Karnak, Gorgon, Triton, Luna, Reed Richards, Skull, MODOKs corpse, Iron Maiden, Feral, Spiders Man, Namor, Omega, Captain America, Daredevil, Tower, Charmer, Double Header, Dogface, Mermaid, Bruce Banner, Hulk, Sorceress Supreme(Clea), Wong, Dr. Stranges body, Vision, Tony Stark, Loki, Mr. S, Corsair, Polaris, Havok, Wolverine, Madelyn Pryor, 

Synopsis: 
Pg1
X-51 & Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
A race of shape changing aliens come to Earth and eventually become the Asgardians. Odin, Thor, and Loki appear. 
Pg4-FB
Don Blake becomes Thor and the Avengers are formed. Don Blake, Thor, Loki, Iron Man, Hulk, and Ant-Man appear. 
Pg5-FB
Asgardians fly through New York. Thor, Odin, Sif, Volstagg, Hogun, Fandral, Balder, and Beta Ray Bill appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Reed takes off to look for the Cerebro helmet, but since his Doom armor is gone the castle Doombots attack the Inhumans. Meanwhile, Daredevil and his carnival pals ask to hang out with Captain America. Elsewhere, the Sorceress Supreme and Bruce talk about a dream he had about Captain Marvel. Meanwhile, Thor and the Iron Avengers fight a giant, then Thor chats with Loki about Thor being a woman now. Elsewhere, Scott is contacted by his dad, Havok, & Polaris, who warn him that something is coming to Earth. Meanwhile, a fat Wolverine tells his wife to get him another beer. Back in Latveria the Inhumans defeat the Doombots. 

References: 
Theres a FlashBack to a dream Bruce had about Captain Marvels death, but not to the death itself. 

Earth X #6
Appearances: 
X-51, Uatu, Reed Richards, Mr. S, Tower, Charmer, Double Header, Dogface, Mermaid, Tony Stark, Vision, Norman Osborn, Peter Parker, Venom(May Parker), Captain America, Daredevil, Skull-BTS, Namor, Iron Maiden, Sunspot, Redwing(Wyatt Wingfoot)

Synopsis: 
Pg1
X-51 & Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Origin of Magneto and the X-Men. Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Iceman, Angel, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Toad, Wolverine, Colossus, Thunderbird, Sunspot, Banshee, Havok, Storm, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Cannonballs, and Magik appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Reed walks through the ruins of the Xavier Institute and retrieves the Cerebro helmet. Menawhile, the carnival troupe attacks Mr. S, he decides to train them. Elsewhere, the Sorceress Supreme prepares to send the Hulk into the land of the dead. Elsewhere, Tony Stark chats with President Osborn. Meanwhile, Peter Parker chats with his daughter. Elsewhere, the Skull and his slaves make their way across the country. 

Earth X #1/2
Appearances: 
Skull, MODOKs corpse, Namor, Omega, Texas Jack Muldoon, Jack of Hearts, Spiders Man

Synopsis: 
Pg1
The Skull and his slaves have arrived in New York. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos fight in World War II, near the end Fury is given the Infinity Formula. Red Skull, Baron Strucker, Captain America, Dr. Strange(time-travel), Nick Fury, Dum Dum Dugan, Gabe Jones, Reb Ralston, Pinky Pinkerton, Prof. Sternberg appear. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
SHIELD is formed. Furys bosses tell him to do something about this new mutant issue, when he refuses Sentinels are built, and hes not very happy about that. Nick Fury, Tony Stark, Captain America, Dum Dum Dugan, the Contessa, Clay Quartermain, Magneto, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Iceman, and Angel appear. 
Pg6-FB
Fury and SHIELD fight HYDRA, AIM, Viper, and Scorpio, Mockingbird dies. Fury, Spider-Man, MODOK, Scorpio, Viper, and Mockingbird appear. 
Pg7-FB
Reeds solution to the energy crisis has failed, Fury looks into what can be done about it. Fury, Reed Richards, and Norman Osborn appear. 
Pg8-FB
Osborn tells Jameson who Spider-Man is, when its printed the Daily Bugle soon goes out of business. Osborn, Jameson, Peter Parker appear. 
Pg9-FB
Punisher commits suicide, Daredevil has been killed by Elektra. Only Punisher appears. 
Pg10-pg13-FB
New York has spun out of control, Fury, SHIELD, and Captain America try to restore order, but it doesnt help. Fury, Captain America, Dum Dum appear. Soon afterwards, the Hydra alien attacks. Osborn has the answer because he brought it here, and Iron Man and his Iron Avengers set out to take care of it. Iron Man, Hydra, Fury, and Vision appear. 
Pg14-pg15-FB
Fury knows Osborns secret, so the Hydra alien attacks and destroys the Helicarrier, killing everyone on it. Fury, Dum Dum, Quartermain, Gabe Jones, and Captain America appear. 
Pg16-FB
The Skull discovers he has mind control powers. Later, Fury watches Namor & Iron Maiden gather food and Captain America and Daredevil leave. Skull appears here before issue 1, Daredevil, Namor, Iron Maiden, and Captain America appear after issue 6. 
Pg17-pg18
A Fury LMD attacks the Skull but Namor decapitates it. After talking for a while, the Skull laments his powers dont work on robots. 

References: 
Thats right, Fury died when the Helicarrier crashed. Poor Fury

Earth X #7
Appearances: 
X-51, Uatu, Man-Wolf(John Jameson), Kristine Jameson, Reed Richards, Thing, Medusa, Karnak, Luna, Chuck Grimm, Buzz Grimm, Alicia Grimm, Thor, Sorceress Supreme(Clea), Bruce Banner, Hulk, Giant-Man, Goliath, Maximus, Wasp, Quicksilver, Toad, Baron Zemo, Trapster, Puck, She-Hulk, Scarlet Witch, Wonder Man, Phoenix, Falcon, Human Torch(Johnny), Hawkeye, Daredevil, Black Knight, Spider-Woman, Thunderbird, Gambit, Xavier, Contessa, Nick Fury, Dum Dum, Reb Ralston, Dr. Doom, Invisible Woman, Dr. Strange, Loki, Spiders Man, Iron Maiden, Captain America, Daredevil, Tower, Charmer, Double Header, Dogface, Mermaid, Skull-BTS

Synopsis: 
Pg1
X-51 & Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Origin of the Hulk. Bruce Banner, Betty Ross, Thunderbolt Ross, Rick Jones appear. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Bruce and Betty gets married, Betty eventually dies, Bruce gets counseling. Bruce, Betty, Rick, Leader, Abomination, Leonard Samson appear. 
Pg6-pg23
John turns into the Man-Wolf on the moon. Elsewhere, Reed visits Ben after calling up the Inhumans. He stretches his mind to use Cerebro. Meanwhile, the Hulk enters the realm of the dead. After passing a bunch of dead heroes and villains fighting each other, the Hulk finds Dr. Strange who sends a message back to the land of the living. Meanwhile, Clea reveals she killed Strange, and is lovers with Loki. Meanwhile, the Skulls slaves wait for his next order. Elsewhere, Captain America & Daredevil stop by Bens place. 

Earth X #8
Appearances: 
X-51, Uatu, Man-Wolf(John Jameson), Captain America, Tony Stark, Skull, MODOKs corpse, Iron Maiden, Spiders Man, Feral, Namor, Redwing(Wyatt Wingfoot), Texas Jack Muldoon, Domino, Sgt. Luke Cage, Spider-Man(Peter Parker), Venom(May Parker), Reed Richards, Thing, Medusa, Karnak, Gorgon, Triton, Luna, Black Bolt, Bruce Banner, Hulk, Loki, Sorceress Supreme(Clea), Thor, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Colossus, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo, Norman Osborn, Ox, Fancy Dan, Montana, Vulture, 

Synopsis: 
Pg1
X-51 & Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Origin of Spider-Man. Captain Stacy dies, so does Gwen, Peter marries Mary Jane, then gets the symbiote. Spider-Man, Capt. Stacy, Gwen, Mary Jane, Green Goblin appear. 
Pg6-pg23
John Jameson walks in on X-51 & Uatus conversation. Meanwhile, Captain America visits Tony Stark. The Skull tears up New York, destroying the Iron Avengers and killing the Hydra alien. Reed realizes the entire human race has been turned into Inhumans, not mutants. The Hulk returns from the dead and pounds on Clea. Meanhwile, Captain America goes to Russia for help against the Skull. Iron maiden fights Venom, but Venom is taken by the Skull. Peter decides to do something abou tit. Later, the Skull approaches President Osborn. 

Some placement suggestions: 

BANNER, BRUCE 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 7-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8

BEAST 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 4

BLACK BOLT 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2-FB-BTS
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8

BLACK PANTHER 
EARX 4-FB
EARX 4

BLACK WIDOW
EARX 8

BUCKY/JAMES BARNES
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB

CAGE, SGT. LUKE 
EARX 1
EARX 8

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS 
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 0.5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38-39)-FB
EARX 0.5 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 0.5 (10-15)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5 (16)-FB
EARX 7
EARX 8

CHARMER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7

COLOSSUS
EARX 6-FB
EARX 8

CRIMSON DYNAMO
EARX 8

DAREDEVIL 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7

DOGFACE 
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DOMINO 
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EARX 8

DOUBLE HEADER 
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EARX 7

DR. DOOM/VICTOR VON DOOM
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EARX 7

FALCON/SAM WILSON
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EARX 7

FANCY DAN
EARX 8

FERAL 
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 8

FURY, NICK
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GALACTUS/FRANKLIN RICHARDS
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GORGON 
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GRIMM, ALICIA
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EARX 7

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EARX 7

GRIMM, CHUCK
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EARX 7

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EARX 4

HAVOK/ALEX SUMMERS
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HER
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HIM 
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EARX 2

HULK 
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HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND
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HUMAN TORCH/JOHNNY STORM
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HYDRA 
EARX 1
EARX 4
EARX 8

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE RICHARDS
EARX 2 (2)-FB
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EARX 7

IRON MAIDEN 
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IRON MAN/TONY STARK 
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JACK OF HEARTS 
EARX 3
EARX 0.5

KA-ZAR
EARX 8

KARNAK 
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EARX 1
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EARX 7
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LOKI
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8

LUNA 
EARX 1
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MACHINE MAN/X-51/AARON STACK 
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MAN-WOLF/JOHN JAMESON
EARX 0
EARX 7
EARX 8

MEDUSA 
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EARX 1
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MERMAID
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7

MODOKS CORPSE 
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
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EARX 0.5
EARX 8

MONTANA
EARX 8

MR. S/SCOTT SUMMERS 
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
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EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
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NAMOR 
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EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5
EARX 8

OMEGA 
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 0.5

OSBORN, PRESIDENT NORMAN
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 6
EARX 8

OX
EARX 8

PHOENIX/JEAN GREY
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7

PRYOR, MADELYN
EARX 5

QUICKSILVER
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7

RED SKULL
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REDWING/WYATT WINGFOOT 
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RICHARDS, REED 
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SANDMAN 
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SCARLET WITCH
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SKULL 
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SORCERESS SUPREME/CLEA
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SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER 
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SPIDERS MAN 
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STORM 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 4

STRANGE, DR. STEPHEN
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EARX 7

SUNSPOT 
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EARX 6

TEXAS JACK/JACK MULDOON 
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EARX 8

THING/BEN GRIMM 
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EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB 
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EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 8

THOR 
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (39)-FB
EARX 5 (5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 7
EARX 8

THUNDERBIRD
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7

TOWER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7

TRITON
EARX 2-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8

UATU 
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8

VENOM/MAY PARKER
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8

VISION 
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6

VULTURE
EARX 8

WOLVERINE/LOGAN
EARX 6-FB
EARX 5

WONG
EARX 4

XAVIER, PROFESSOR CHARLES
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7

Up next: Earth X 9-X!

-Daron Jensen

			*	*	*

Thread 31

Subject: Earth X 9-X

Jul 01, 2008 6:15 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Earth X #9
Appearances: 
X-51, Uatu, Man-Wolf(John Jameson), Captain America, Colossus, Sunfire, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Captain Britain, Black Knight, Skull, Venom(May Parker), Norman Osborn, Ox, Montana, Fancy Dan, Vulture, Namor, Spiders Man, Reed Richards, Thing, Alicia Grimm, Buzz Grimm, Chuck Grimm, Tony Stark, Vision, Medusa, Black Bolt, Karnak, Gorgon, Triton, Luna

Synopsis: 
Pg1
X-51 & Man-Wolf chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Origin of the Inhumans. Black Bolt, Maximus, Medusa, Karnak, Gorgon, Triton, and Lockjaw appear. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Quicksilver & Crystal have Luna, Maximus tries to release the Terrigen Mists to the world, the Inhumans prepare to leave Earth. Quicksilver, Crystal, Luna, Medusa, Lockjaw, Maximus, Black Bolt appear. 
Pg6-pg19
X-51 leaves Uatu and tells Man-Wolf to look after his wife: The Celestials are coming. Meanwhile, Captain America asks for Captain Britains help, and he eventually agrees. Elsewhere, the Skull kills President Osborn. Meanwhile, X-51 uses the Monolith to appear in front of Reed, and he tells then the secret of the Celestials: Humans are anti-bodies for the baby Celestial growing inside Earth. Elsewhere, Medusa realizes that it was Black Bolt who released the Terrigen Mists to the world. 
Pg20-pg21-FB
Black Bolt releases the Terrigen Mists to the world. 
Pg22-pg23
Reed tries to grasp what X-51 has just revealed to him. 

Earth X #10
Appearances: 
Man-Wolf(John Jameson), Uatu, X-51, Reed Richards, Thing, Alicia Grimm, Buzz Grimm, Chuck Grimm, Captain America, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Colossus, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo, Sunfire, Captain Britain, Guardian, Sasquatch, Tora, Black Panther, Storm, Beast, Black Bolt, Medusa, Karnak, Gorgon, Triton, Luna, Skull, Domino, Iron Maiden, Feral, Jack of Hearts, Wizard, Ox, Montana, Texas Jack, Venom(May Parker), Namor, Spiders Man, Dragon Man, Redwing(Wyatt Wingfoot), Bruce Banner, Hulk, Mr. S, Daredevil, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Spider-Man(Peter Parker), Omega

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Man-Wolf & Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Origin of Machine Man! Machine Man & Jocasta appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Everyone regroups at the Things place. Meanwhile, Captain Americas group asks the Black panther for help against the Skull, who refuses. Later, Captain Americas army attacks the Skull and everyone fights. Meanwhile, Black Bolt goes to meet the approaching Celestials. 

Earth X #11
Appearances: 
Reed Richards, Uatu, Captain America, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Colossus, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo, Sunfire, Captain Britain, Guardian, Sasquatch, Tora, Skull, Domino, Iron Maiden, Feral, Jack of Hearts, Wizard, Ox, Montana, Texas Jack, Venom(May Parker), Namor, Spiders Man, Dragon Man, Redwing(Wyatt Wingfoot), Bruce Banner, Hulk, Omega, Iron Man, Vision, Wolverine, Madelyne Pryor, Spider-Man, Thing, Man-Wolf, Black Bolt, Kristine Jameson, Jay Jameson, X-51, Daredevil, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Reed Richards and Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
The life & times of Alicia Masters. High Evolutionary, puppetmaster, Alicia, Thing, Dr. Doom, Adam Warlock, Galactus, Silver Surfer, & Mr. Fantastic appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Everyone fights and Spider-Man puts his suit back on. Black Bolt is killed by the Celestials, but not before he calls out for help. Captain America frees everyone by killing the Skull, but the Celestials have arrived, so Tony Stark pilots his Iron Man fortress to buy some time. 

Earth X #12
Appearances: 
Reed Richards, Uatu, Captain America, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Colossus, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo, Sunfire, Captain Britain, Guardian, Sasquatch, Tora, Skull, Domino, Iron Maiden, Feral, Jack of Hearts, Wizard, Ox, Montana, Texas Jack, Venom(May Parker), Namor, Spiders Man, Dragon Man, Redwing(Wyatt Wingfoot), Bruce Banner, Hulk, Omega, Iron Man, Vision, Spider-Man, Thing, Man-Wolf, X-51, Daredevil, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Vulture, Medusa, Karnak, Triton, Gorgon, Luna, Thor, Loki, Odin, Sif, Balder, Enchantress, Volstagg, Heimdall, Hogun, Fandral, Hela, Executioner, Silver Surfer, Shalla Bal, Galactus(Franklin Richards)

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Reed Richards & Uatu chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Origin of Iron Man. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Life & times of Iron Man. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant Man, Wasp appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Iron Man fights the Celstials and dies, but hes bought enough time for Galactus to arrive. The Asgardians watch and Loki convinces them all to help. However, Uatu has given the Man-Wolf the Ultimate Nullifier.

Earth X #X
Appearances: 
Reed Richards, Uatu, Captain America, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Colossus, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo, Sunfire, Captain Britain, Guardian, Sasquatch, Tora, Skull-BTS, Domino, Iron Maiden, Feral, Jack of Hearts, Wizard, Ox, Montana, Texas Jack, Venom(May Parker), Namor, Spiders Man, Dragon Man, Redwing(Wyatt Wingfoot), Bruce Banner, Hulk, Omega, Vision, Spider-Man, Thing, Man-Wolf, X-51, Daredevil, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Vulture, Medusa, Karnak, Triton, Gorgon, Luna, Thor, Loki, Odin, Sif, Balder, Enchantress, Volstagg, Heimdall, Hogun, Fandral, Hela, Executioner, Silver Surfer, Shalla Bal, Galactus(Franklin Richards), Alicia Grimm, Buzz Grimm, Chuck Grimm, Sgt. Luke Cage, Black Knight, Black Panther, Storm, Beast, J. Jonah Jameson, Madelyne Pryor, Captain Marvel, Him, Her


Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg48
The Skull is dead, Reed tries to calm the Man-Wolf down, Galactus has arrived to eat the Celestial embryo inside Earth, and Namor calls his undersea creatures to attack the Celestials. X-51 takes care of the Man-Wolf, Shalla Bal is killed by the Celestials, Namors creatures are defeated, and Galactus fights back. He falls, but the Asgardians arrive to help out. Medusa realizes the the Black Knight is her son. Galactus drives the Celstrials away, and Reed taslks him into sparing Earth, by taking the Celestial baby but not destroying the planet in the meantime. Peter has started to lose weight. Reed starts to build giant torches to burn away the Terrigen Mists from the atmosphere, Mar-Vell arrives to tell Reed that hes coming back and that his wife misses him, and Captain America lights the Human Torches. 

And one more: 

Earth X Collection
Appearances: 
Captain America, Redwing, Namor, Spider-Man, Black Knight, Texas Jack, Sgt. Luke Cage, Venom, Thing, Alicia Grimm, Bruce Banner, Hulk, Daredevil, Mr. S, Dogface, X-51, Reed Richards, Medusa, Karnak, Gorgon, Triton, Luna, 

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg5
After the lighting of the Human Torches, Reed returns to Latveria to mourn the loss of his wife, Sue. 

References: 
Thats right, theres a new five page epilogue in the collected edition, painted by Alex Ross. 

Some placement suggestions: 

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BEAST 
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BLACK BOLT 
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BLACK WIDOW
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BUCKY/JAMES BARNES
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EARX 0-FB
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CAGE, SGT. LUKE 
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EARTHX

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CAPTAIN BRITAIN
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CHARMER 
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COLOSSUS
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CRIMSON DYNAMO
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DAREDEVIL 
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DOGFACE 
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EARTHX

DOMINO 
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EARX 8
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EARX 12
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DOUBLE HEADER 
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EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DR. DOOM/VICTOR VON DOOM
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 7

FALCON/SAM WILSON
EARX 1-FB
EARX 7

FANCY DAN
EARX 8
EARX 9

FERAL 
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EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

FURY, NICK
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EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7

GALACTUS/FRANKLIN RICHARDS
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EARX X

GIANT MAN
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EARX 0-FB
EARX 7

GORGON 
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GRIMM, ALICIA
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EARTHX

GRIMM, BUZZ 
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GRIMM, CHUCK
EARX 2
EARX 7
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EARX 10
EARX X

HARPY/BETTY BANNER 
EARX 7-FB
EARX 4

HAVOK/ALEX SUMMERS
EARX 6-FB
EARX 5

HER
EARX 2
EARX X

HIM 
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX X

HULK 
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EARX 5
EARX 7
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EARX 10
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EARTHX

HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND
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HUMAN TORCH/JOHNNY STORM
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EARX 3-FB
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EARX 7

HYDRA 
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EARX 4

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE RICHARDS
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
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IRON MAIDEN 
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IRON MAN/TONY STARK 
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JACK OF HEARTS 
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KA-ZAR
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EARX 10
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KARNAK 
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LOKI
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EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 5
EARX 7
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LUNA 
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MACHINE MAN/X-51/AARON STACK 
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MAGNETO
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MAN-WOLF/JOHN JAMESON
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EARX 7
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MAR-VELL
EARX X

MAXIMUS
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EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7

MEDUSA 
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MERMAID
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MODOKS CORPSE 
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EARX 8

MONTANA
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MR. S/SCOTT SUMMERS 
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NAMOR 
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EARTHX

OMEGA 
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OSBORN, PRESIDENT NORMAN
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EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9

OX
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

PHOENIX/JEAN GREY
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7

PRYOR, MADELYNE
EARX 5
EARX 11
EARX X

QUICKSILVER
EARX 6-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 7

RED SKULL
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB

REDWING/WYATT WINGFOOT 
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

RICHARDS, REED 
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

SANDMAN 
EARX 2

SCARLET WITCH
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7

SHANNA
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

SILVER SURFER
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 12
EARX X

SKULL 
EARX 2-BTS
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6-BTS
EARX 0.5
EARX 7-BTS
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X-BTS

SORCERESS SUPREME/CLEA
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8

SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

SPIDERS MAN 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

STORM 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X

STRANGE, DR. STEPHEN
EARX 5-BTS
EARX 7

SUNFIRE
EARX 6-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

SUNSPOT 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 6

TEXAS JACK/JACK MULDOON 
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

THING/BEN GRIMM 
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB 
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

THOR 
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0 (39)-FB
EARX 5 (5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X

THUNDERBIRD
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7

TOWER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

TRITON
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

UATU 
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

VENOM/MAY PARKER
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

VISION 
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 9
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

VULTURE
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 12
EARX X

WASP
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 7

WOLVERINE/LOGAN
EARX 6-FB
EARX 5
EARX 11

WONG
EARX 4

XAVIER, PROFESSOR CHARLES
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7

Up next: Universe X!

-Daron Jensen

			*	*	*

Thread 32

Subject: Universe X 0-4

Jul 02, 2008 8:26 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Universe X #0
Appearances: 
Gargoyle(Isaac Christians), Nighthawk(Kyle Richmond), Captain America, Sgt. Luke Cage, Spider-Man(Peter Parker), Venom(May Parker), Thing(Ben Grimm), Angel(Warren Worthington), Adversary(Mr. Church)-OP

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg19
At the lighting of the Human Torches, Gargoyle & Nighthawk chat about things. Nighthawk has news eyes that can see into the past and future, so he tells Gargoyle of possible futures and the past. Angel shows up and warns them that the future isnt set in stone, so they talk about the past instead. 
Pg20-FB
Kyle Richmond is given new eyes by Mephisto. 
Pg21
More talking. 
Pg22-pg23-FB
Fantastic Four fight Mephisto, X-Men fight Belasco. Silver Surfer, Mr. Fantastic, Human Torch, Thing, Dr. Doom, Invisible Woman, Mephisto, Colossus, Magik, Wolverine ,Storm, Kitty Pryde, Belasco appear. 
Pg24-pg25
Angel leaves. 
Pg26-pg33-FB
Origin of the Eternals. 
Pg34-FB
Origin of Thanos & Starfox. 
Pg35-pg37-FB
Origin of Captain Marvel. Mar-Vell, Mr. Fantastic, Human Torch, Thing, Invisible Woman Ms. Marvel appear. 
Pg38-pg39-FB
Kree/Skrull War. Mar-Vell, Rick Jones, Vision, Thor, Captain America, Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, Giant Man appear. 
Pg40-FB
Fights Thanos. Mar-Vell, Thor, Human Torch, Moondragon, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Dr. Strange, Mr. Fantastic, Starfox, Captain America, Quicksilver, Beast, Vision, Giant Man, Drax appear. 
Pg41-FB
Death of Mar-Vell. Mar-Vell, Dr. Strange, Nighthawk, Yellowjacket, Valkyrie, Wasp, Vision, Gargoyle, Spider-Man appear. 
Pg42-pg43-FB
Thanos fights cosmic heroes. Thanos, Silver Surfer, Ms. Marvel, Comet Man, Star-Lord, Nova, Captain Universe, and Her appear. 
Pg44-FB
Silver Surfer teams up with a dead Mar-Vell. The rest is recap from Earth X #X. 
Pg45-pg48
More of a future, then they finish their conversation. 

References: 
There are plenty of future visions that look like what ends up happening in the next issue or two, but some of it doesnt. Since theyre future visions that are probably not 100% accurate, Ill not include them in any suggestions. 

The lighting sequence takes place after Earth X #X but before the epilogue seen in the collected edition. 

Mr. Church is downstairs, just off panel. 

4
Appearances: 
X-51, Galactus(Franklin Richards), Reed Richards, Thing, Alicia Grimm, Him(Adam), Namor, Tiger Shark, Orca, Namorita, Agatha Harkness, Mar-Vell, Daredevil(Matt Murdock), Green Goblin(Norman Osborn), Dr. Strange, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Dr. Doom, Phoenix, Absorbing Man, Baron Zemo, Giant Man, Fin, Patriot, Vision(40s), Angel(40s), Marvel Boy(50s), Miss America, Hyperion, Red Raven, Union Jack, Kingpin, Rose, Baron Strucker, Blazing Skull, Commander Arcturus Rann, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Uatu

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg2
X-51 & Galactus chat on the moon. 
Pg3-FB
Recap of Earth X #0-FB, no new information. 
Pg4-pg5
Reed & Ben chat about Mar-Vell. 
Pg6-FB
Mar-Vell is born. Him(Adam), Her(Eve), Mar-Vell, Reed, Alicia appear. 
Pg7-pg8-FB
Wedding of Reed & Sue. All 4 Fantastic Four, Alicia, all five X-Men, Iron Man, Captain America, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Daredevil(Murdock), Dr. Strange, Namor, Dr. Doom appear. 
Pg9-FB
Recap of Earth X #2-FB, no new information. 
Pg10-pg13
Thing visits Namor. 
Pg14-pg15-FB
Recap of Earth X #0-FB, no new information. 
Pg16-pg21
Thing fights Namor. Meanwhile, Mar-Vell & Dr. Strange chat with Commander Rann in the land of the dead. 
Pg22-pg23-FB
Recap of various Earth X FlashBacks, no new information. 
pg24-pg25
Johnny tries to convince Sue that shes dead, but she wont hear anything of it. 
Pg26-FB
The life & times of Franklin Richards. Franklin, Agatha Harkness, Human Torch appear. 
Pg27-pg37
X-51 & Galactus chat about the Days of Future Past and Galactus leaves. Meanwhile, Johnny convinces Dr. Doom that HES dead, who in turn convinces Sue that shes dead. 
Pg38-FB
Origin of Dr. Doom, Reed & Doom appear. 
Pg39-FB
Recap of Earth X #2-FB, no new information. 
Pg40-pg48
Mar-Vell brings Sue back from the dead, a body is made out of Reed arm for her. X-51 visits Uatu. 

Universe X #1
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Gargoyle, Adversary(Mr. Church), Captain America, Mar-Vell, Dagger, Jack Power, Julie Power, Alex Power, Thing, Alicia, Buzz, Chuck, Reed Richards, Sue Richards, Pope Immortus, Spiders Man, Spider-Man(Peter parker), Iron Maiden, Loki, X-51

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Origin of Dr. Strange. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Fights Mephisto & Nightmare, forms Defenders, fights Dracula & Dormammu, Clea & Loki form pact. Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, Mephisto, Nightmare, Dracula, Dormammu, Nighthawk, Silver Surfer, Valkyrie, Luke Cage, Namor, Gargoyle, Hellcat, Son of Satan, Clea, Loki appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Gargoyle drops another of Kyles pages down to Mr. Church. Meanwhile, Cap & Mar-Vell run across the Power Pack kids beating up a destitute Dagger, who has Cloaks cloak, she gives it to Mar-Vell. Elsewhere, Ben introduces Sue to his family when Pope Immortus & Spiders Man arrive to tell Reed his Human Torches need to be extinguished. Later, Officer Parker breaks up a disturbance and runs into Spiders Man & Iron Maiden. Meanwhile, Cap & Mar-Vell go to Dr. Stranges old place and run into Loki. Elsewhere, X-51 starts poking around on the moon. 

Universe X #2
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, gargoyle, Captain America, Mar-Vell, Captain Britain, Commander Rann, Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, Phoenix, Banshee, Human Torch(Johnny), Nova, Ms. Marvel, Quasar, Star-Lord, Green Goblin, Xavier, Giant Man, Rogue, Thunderbird, Shaw, Mastermind, Iron Man, Sasquatch, Vindicator, Shaman, Aurora, Him(Adam), Iron Maiden, Spiders Man, Venom, Spider-Man, Sgt. Cage, Texas Jack, Dragon Man, Medusa, Luna, Black Knight, Psylocke, Roma, Merlyn, Death

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Origin of Captain Britain. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Forms Excalibur. Captain Britain, Psylocke, Meggan, Slaymaster, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Rachel Summers, Colossus appear. 
Pg6-pg8
Cap & Mar-Vell visit Captain Britain. 
Pg9-FB
Death of Excalibur. Captain Britain, Grey Gargoyle, Nightcrawler appear. 
Pg10-pg23
Mar-Vell chats with Strange in the land of the dead and Iron Man is convinced hes dead. Meanwhile, the Human Torches are defended against Pope Immortus attacks. Black Knight reveals he does not want to replace Captain Britain, so Captain Britain takes them to see his sister and Roma & Merlyn. They view the Omniverse and leave, but theyre followed by Death. 

Universe X #3
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Gargoyle, Adversary(Mr. Church), Captain America, Mar-Vell, Captain Britain, Black Knight, Dragon Man, Medusa, Luna, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Magneto, Toad, Mephisto, Rom, Star-Lord, Quasar, Nova, Ms. Marvel, Dr. Strange, Commander Rann, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, Human Torch, Phoenix, Thanos, Absorbing Man-BTS, Loki, Pope Immortus, Spiders Man, Belasco, Death

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Origin of the Savage land. Ka-Zar, Shanna, original X-Men, Belasco, Kang/Immortus and Rom appear. 
Pg6-pg23
Mr. Church reads some pages. Meanwhile, Cap & Mar-Vell leave England and go to the Savage Land. They visit Toad & Magneto, then go to Limbo where they meet Mephisto, Rom, and Belasco. Meanwhile, Dr. Starnge and his group of dead heroes chat with Thanos. Elsewhere, Loki watches people reassemble Absorbing Mans body, Pope Immortus holds a meeting, and Death follows Cap. 

Spidey
Appearances: 
Spider-Man(Peter Parker), Venom(May Parker), Sgt. Cage, Texas Jack, Spiders Man, 

Synopsis: 
Pg1-FB
Mary Jane Parker and her young daughter May watch Spider-Man fight on TV. 
Pg2-pg3
Hallucination, now. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Mary Jane dies, Peter quits being Spider-Man, May bonds to symbiote. 
Pg6-pg7-FB
Sgt. Cage briefs his police squad, Spider-Man says hell go after Spiders Man. 
Pg8-pg48
Venom goes looking for Spider-Man and finds him in a trance with Spiders Man. She goes inside using the symbiote and snaps him out of it. 

Theres a FlashBack that repeats Earth X #8-FB, no new information. 

Universe X #4
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Gargoyle, Captain America, Mar-Vell, Xen, Sai(Elektra Natchios), White Wolf, Mantis, Toro, Sunfire, Kendo, Wong, Sumo, Reed Richards, Dr. Strange-BTS, Loki, Death, Hydra, Spider-Man, Venom, Sgt. Cage, Pope Immortus, Marionette, Neutron, Ant Man, Spartak, Spidra, Bug, Surtur, Hydra

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-3-FB
Recap of Earth X #5-FB, no new information. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Loki empowers Carl Creel, the rest is recap. 
Pg6-pg9
Cap & Mar-Vell visit Sunfire, then calls up Reed, who tells him how the Avengers died. 
Pg10-pg12-FB
Death of the Avengers, pieces of Creel spread throughout the world. Absorbing Man, Ultron, Giant Man, Wasp, Hawkeye, Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Sunfire, Reed Richards, Tao, Gambit, Black Widow, Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze), Storm, Gladiator, Comet Man, Nomad, Moondragon, Falcon, Shaman, Red Guardian appear. 
Pg13-pg23
Cap & Mar-Vell go looking around and find out the Hydra isnt dead after all. Cap takes care of that while Loki visits Surtur. 

Some placement suggestions: 

ABSORBING MAN/CARL CREEL
UNIX 4 (5)-FB
UNIX 4 (10-12)-FB
4
UNIX 3-BTS
UNIX 4-BTS

ADVERSARY/MR. CHURCH
UNIX 0-OP
UNIX 1
UNIX 3

ANGEL/WARREN WORTHINGTON
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0

BANNER, BRUCE 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 7 (2-3)-FB
EARX 12-FB
EARX 7 (4-5)-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

BEAST/HANK MCCOY 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X

BELASCO
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 3

BLACK BOLT 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB-BTS
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 9 (20-21)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11

BLACK KNIGHT
EARX 9
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

BLACK PANTHER 
EARX 4-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X

BLACK WIDOW
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

BUCKY/JAMES BARNES
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB

BUG
UNIX 4

CAGE, SGT. LUKE 
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 1
EARX 8
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS 
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 0.5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38-39)-FB
EARX 0.5 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 0.5 (10-15)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5 (16)-FB
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

CAPTAIN BRITAIN/BRIAN BRADDOCK
UNIX 2-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

CHARMER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

COLOSSUS
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

CRIMSON DYNAMO
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DAREDEVIL/MATT MURDOCK
4-FB
EARX 7
4

DAREDEVIL 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

DEATH
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

DOGFACE 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

DOMINO 
EARX 2
EARX 4
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DOUBLE HEADER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DRAGON MAN
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

DR. DOOM/VICTOR VON DOOM
4 (38)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 11-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

FALCON/SAM WILSON
EARX 1-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

FANCY DAN
EARX 8
EARX 9

FERAL 
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

FURY, NICK
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7

GALACTUS/FRANKLIN RICHARDS
4-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 12
EARX X
4

GARGOYLE/ISAAC CHRISTIANS
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

GIANT MAN/HANK PYM
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2

GORGON 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

GRIMM, ALICIA
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
EARTHX
4 (6)-FB
4
UNIX 1

GRIMM, BUZZ 
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 1

GRIMM, CHUCK
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 1

HARPY/BETTY BANNER 
EARX 7-FB
EARX 4

HAVOK/ALEX SUMMERS
EARX 6-FB
EARX 5

HAWKEYE
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

HER/EVE
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX X
4-FB

HIM/ADAM 
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX X
4-FB
4
UNIX 2

HULK 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND
EARX 0-FB

HUMAN TORCH/JOHNNY STORM
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 0 (38)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
4 (26)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

HYDRA 
EARX 1
EARX 4
UNIX 4

ICEMAN/BOBBY DRAKE
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE RICHARDS
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 1

IRON MAIDEN 
EARX 4-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 2

IRON MAN/TONY STARK 
EARX 12 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 12 (4-5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

JACK OF HEARTS 
EARX 3
EARX 0.5
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

JONES, RICK
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB

KA-ZAR
UNIX 3-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 3

KARNAK 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

LOKI
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
UNIX 4-FB-BTS
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

LUNA 
EARX 9-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

MACHINE MAN/X-51/AARON STACK 
EARX 10-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4
UNIX 1

MAGNETO
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3

MAN-WOLF/JOHN JAMESON
EARX 0
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MAR-VELL
UNIX 0-FB
EARX X
4-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

MAXIMUS
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7

MEDUSA 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

MEPHISTO
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0 (22-23)-FB
UNIX 0 (20)-FB
UNIX 3

MERLYN
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

MERMAID
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MODOKS CORPSE 
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 8

MONTANA
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MR. S/SCOTT SUMMERS 
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

MS. MARVEL/CAROL DANVERS
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

NAMOR 
EARX 3 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 3 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38)-FB
EARX 1-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 3 (5)-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4

NIGHTCRAWLER/KURT WAGNER
UNIX 2-FB

NIGHTHAWK/KYLE RICHMOND
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0 (41)-FB
UNIX 0 (20)-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

NOVA/RICH RIDER
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

OMEGA 
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

OSBORN, PRESIDENT NORMAN
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
4
UNIX 2

OX
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

PHOENIX/JEAN GREY
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

POPE IMMORTUS
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 4

PRYOR, MADELYNE
EARX 5
EARX 11
EARX X

PSYLOCKE/BETSY BRADDOCK
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

QUASAR
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

QUICKSILVER
EARX 6-FB
4-FB
EARX 9-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4

RANN, COMMANDER ARCTURUS
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

RED SKULL
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB

REDWING/WYATT WINGFOOT 
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

RICHARDS, REED 
4 (38)-FB
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 3-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4 (6)-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 4

ROM, SPACEKNIGHT
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 3

ROMA
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

SAI/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
UNIX 4

SANDMAN 
EARX 2

SCARLET WITCH
EARX 6-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4

SHANNA
UNIX 3-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 3

SILVER SURFER
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 12
EARX X

SKULL 
EARX 2-BTS
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6-BTS
EARX 0.5
EARX 7-BTS
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X-BTS

SORCERESS SUPREME/CLEA
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8

SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 0-FB
SPIDEY (1)-FB
SPIDEY (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
SPIDEY (6-7)-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4

SPIDERS MAN 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
SPIDEY-FB-BTS
SPIDEY

STAR-LORD
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

STARFOX
UNIX 0-FB

STORM 
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X

STRANGE, DR. STEPHEN
UNIX 1 (2-3)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 1 (4-5)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 5-BTS
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4-BTS

SUNFIRE
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 4

SUNSPOT 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 6

TEXAS JACK/JACK MULDOON 
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY-FB

THANOS
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 3

THING/BEN GRIMM 
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB 
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
4
UNIX 1

THOR 
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0 (39)-FB
EARX 5 (5)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 1
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X

THUNDERBIRD
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 2

TOAD
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3

TORA
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 4

TOWER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

TRITON
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

UATU 
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
4

VENOM/MAY PARKER
SPIDEY (1)-FB
SPIDEY (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY (6-7)-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4

VISION 
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 9
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

VULTURE
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 12
EARX X

WASP
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

WHITE WOLF
UNIX 4

WOLVERINE/LOGAN
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 5
EARX 11

WONG
EARX 4
UNIX 4

XAVIER, PROFESSOR CHARLES
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 2

Up next: More Universe X!

-Daron Jensen

			*	*	*

Thread 33

Subject: Universe X 5-8

Jul 03, 2008 3:12 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

Cap
Appearances: 
Captain America, Mar-Vell, Death, Thing, Redwing, Thor, Bucky-VO, Nick Fury-VO

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg48
Looking for a dimensional doorway, Captain America is killed protecting the child Mar-Vell. Thing Redwing and Thor come to collect Mar-Vell, and as Cap dies hes greeted by the voices of Bucky & Nick Fury. 

References: 
Cap hallucinates through this issue, and even though they look like FlashBacks theyre not. 

Universe X #5
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Gargoyle, Loki, Sgt. Cage, Texas jack, Black Panther, Storm, Thing, Alicia, Buzz, Chuck, Hulk, Bruce Banner, Daredevil, Angel, Black Knight, Captain Britain, Medusa, Spider-Man, Venom, Mar-Vell, Colossus, Black Widow, Namor, Thor, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Redwing, Vision, Reed, Sue, Dragon Man, Man-Thing-BTS, Marionette, Neutron, Proton, Phoenix-BTS, X-51, Uatu, Supreme Intelligence(Supremor)

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
A FlashBack to the Future! Wayfinder stabs a star and creates sub-atomica by travelling backwards in time... somehow(it turns out the star in the future is Galan, the old Galactus, having been turned into a star by Reed Richards) Origin of Commander Rann & the Enigma Force, then Psycho-Man attacks the Fantastic Four, then Hulk visits Sub-Atomica. Rann, Marionette, & Bug meet the Man-Thing, the Enigma Force becomes Captain Universe, then the Psycho-Man makes Marionette attack Rann and his kid. Captain Universe meets Captain Marvel. 
Pg6-pg15
Captain Americas funeral. Later, Captain Britains home is attacked and his piece of Creel is stolen. 
Pg16-pg17-FB
Death of Commander Rann, Psycho-Man attacks Sub-Atomica, Man-Thing dies. Rann, Marionette, Man-Thing, Psycho-Man, Bug, Spartak, Neutron, Proton, Ant Man(NOT Pym) appear. 
Pg18-pg23
Mar-Vell and the X-Men find the Psycho-Mans box in the Man-Things corpse, with the help of Marionette and some of the Ant Men. Meanwhile, X-51 chats with Uatu then finds the Supreme Intelligence. 

Universe X #6
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Gargoyle, Reed, Sue, Adversary(Mr. Church), Sasquatch, Moon Knight, Thor, Namor, Mar-Vell, Hulk, Bruce Banner, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Buzz, Chuck, Sunfire, Tora, Tao, White Tiger, Wong, Chi, Sumo, Dr. Strange, Giant Man, Iron Man, Phoenix, Dr. Doom, Thanos, Gambit, Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze), Human Torch(Johnny), Commander Rann, Quasar, Nova, Star-Lord, Ms. Marvel, Ulysses Bloodstone, Supreme Intelligence(Supremor), Pope Immortus, Neutron, Bug, Ant man(NOT Pym), Spartak, Proton, Spidra

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Origin of Moon Knight! Uatu appears in the far past. 
Pg6-pg23
Forces attack Latveria. Meanwhile, Sasquatch is attacked by a pack of Wolverines. Elsewhere, Moon Knight dies. Mar-Vell and the X-Men(plus Thor, Namor, & Hulk) visit Sunfire. The dead heroes fight Thanos. Pope Immortus is spied on by the Ant Men and X-51 drags Supremor around the moon. 

Universe X #7
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Gargoyle, X-51, Supremor, Jack of Hearts, Sunspot, Omega, Thor, Namor, Mar-Vell, Hulk, Bruce Banner, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Uatu, Iceman, Sgt. Cage, Spider-Man, Spiders Man, Absorbing Man-BTS, Sunfire, Tao, Sumo, Wong, Mantis, Banzai, Reed, Sue, Buzz, Chuck, Ulysses Bloodstone, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, Phoenix, Thanos, Quasar, Nova, Star-Lord, Ms. Marvel, Dr. Strange, Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze), Giant Man, Moon Knight, Adversary(Mr. Church)

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Gargoyle chat. 
Pg2-pg4-FB
Origin of Galactus(Galan) & the Silver Surfer. 
Pg5-FB
Black Bolt blinds Uatu. 
Pg6-pg23
X-51 chats with the Supreme Intelligence. Lots and lots of fighting, and Mr. Church is revealed to be Mephisto. 

Universe X #8
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, X-51, Gargoyle, Mephisto(Mr. Church), Daredevil, Deviant, Spider-Man, Spiders Man, Iceman, Sgt. Cage, Texas Jack, Angel, Mar-Vell, Hulk, Bruce Banner, Black Panther, Storm, Thor, Namor, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Beast, Multiple Man, Reed, Sue, Buzz, Chuck, 

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & X-51 chat. 
Pg2-FB
Origin of the Supreme Intelligence. 
Pg3-FB
Origin of the Cosmic Cube. MODOK, Red Skull, Iron Man appear. 
Pg4-FB
Thanos gets the Cosmic Cube. 
Pg5-FB
Captain America gives the Cube to Black Panther. Also appearing are Beast & Storm. 
Pg6-pg23
Deviant chats with Daredevil to find Reed Richards. New Yorks Human Torch is attacked, as is Latverias. Mar-Vell & co. visit Black Panther. 

Beasts
Appearances: 
Bruce Banner, Hulk, Mr. S, Black panther, Beast, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Mar-Vell, Thor, Namor, Storm

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg5
Black Panther and the X-Men wander through the snow. 
Pg6-FB
Recap of Universe X #7, no new information. 
Pg7-FB
Professor X, Gambit, and Rogue die. Beast and the Multiple Man work, Nightcrawler is stoned to death by mutants. 
Pg8-pg10-FB
Wakanda is attacked and Storm dies. Black Panther, Storm, Mar-Vell, Hulk, Bruce Banner, Thor, Namor, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Beast appear. After Universe X #7 and before this issue. 
Pg11-pg14
The X-Men fight an army of Wendigos. 
Pg15-pg18-FB
Black Panther agrees to help Mar-Vell, but Storm returns to everyones surprise. Same appearances as (8-10)-FB. 
Pg19-pg22
The X-Men make it to the Savage Land. 
Pg23-pg26-FB
Black Panther shows the Cosmic Cube to Mar-Vell, who explains that Black Panther brought Storm back with it, as well as giving voices to the Great Spirits. Black Panther agrees to help Mar-Vell after all. 
Pg27-pg48
The Wendigo army is defeated and Black Panther and the X-Men set up shop in the Savage land. 

Some placement suggestions: 

ABSORBING MAN/CARL CREEL
UNIX 4 (5)-FB
UNIX 4 (10-12)-FB
4
UNIX 3-BTS
UNIX 4-BTS
UNIX 7-BTS

ANGEL/WARREN WORTHINGTON
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 5
UNIX 8

BANNER, BRUCE 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 7 (2-3)-FB
EARX 12-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 7 (4-5)-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

BEAST/HANK MCCOY 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
BEASTS (7)-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 8
BEASTS (8-10)-FB
BEASTS (15-18)-FB
BEASTS (23-26)-FB
BEASTS

BELASCO
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 3

BLACK BOLT 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB-BTS
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 9 (20-21)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11

BLACK KNIGHT
EARX 9
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5

BLACK PANTHER 
EARX 4-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

BLACK WIDOW
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5

BUCKY/JAMES BARNES
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB
CAP-VO

BUG
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 4
UNIX 6

CAGE, SGT. LUKE 
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 1
EARX 8
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS 
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 0.5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38-39)-FB
EARX 0.5 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 0.5 (10-15)-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5 (16)-FB
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
CAP
UNIX 5-BTS

CAPTAIN BRITAIN/BRIAN BRADDOCK
UNIX 2-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5

CHARMER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

COLOSSUS
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5

CRIMSON DYNAMO
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DAREDEVIL/MATT MURDOCK
4-FB
EARX 7
4

DAREDEVIL 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 8

DEATH
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
CAP

DOGFACE 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

DOMINO 
EARX 2
EARX 4
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DOUBLE HEADER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

DRAGON MAN
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5

DR. DOOM/VICTOR VON DOOM
4 (38)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 11-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

FALCON/SAM WILSON
EARX 1-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

FANCY DAN
EARX 8
EARX 9

FERAL 
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

FURY, NICK
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7
CAP-VO

GALACTUS/GALAN
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB

GALACTUS/FRANKLIN RICHARDS
4-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 12
EARX X
4

GAMBIT/REMY LEBEAU
BEASTS-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 4
UNIX 6

GARGOYLE/ISAAC CHRISTIANS
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

GHOST RIDER/JOHNNY BLAZE
UNIX 4-FB
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

GIANT MAN/HANK PYM
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

GORGON 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

GRIMM, ALICIA
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
EARTHX
4 (6)-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 5

GRIMM, BUZZ 
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

GRIMM, CHUCK
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

HARPY/BETTY BANNER 
EARX 7-FB
EARX 4

HAVOK/ALEX SUMMERS
EARX 6-FB
EARX 5

HAWKEYE
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

HER/EVE
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX X
4-FB

HIM/ADAM 
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX X
4-FB
4
UNIX 2

HULK 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND
EARX 0-FB

HUMAN TORCH/JOHNNY STORM
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 0 (38)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
4 (26)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6

HYDRA 
EARX 1
EARX 4
UNIX 4

ICEMAN/BOBBY DRAKE
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE RICHARDS
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

IRON MAIDEN 
EARX 4-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 2

IRON MAN/TONY STARK 
EARX 12 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 12 (4-5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 8-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

JACK OF HEARTS 
EARX 3
EARX 0.5
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 7

JONES, RICK
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB

KA-ZAR
UNIX 3-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 3
BEASTS

KARNAK 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

LOKI
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
UNIX 4-FB-BTS
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 5

LUNA 
EARX 9-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3

MACHINE MAN/X-51/AARON STACK 
EARX 10-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

MAGNETO
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3

MAN-WOLF/JOHN JAMESON
EARX 0
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MAN-THING
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5-BTS

MAR-VELL
UNIX 0-FB
EARX X
4-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
CAP
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

MARIONETTE
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5

MAXIMUS
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7

MEDUSA 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5

MEPHISTO/ADVERSARY/MR. CHURCH
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0 (22-23)-FB
UNIX 0 (20)-FB
UNIX 0-OP
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

MERLYN
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

MERMAID
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS

MODOKS CORPSE 
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 8

MONTANA
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MOON KNIGHT/MARC SPECTOR
UNIX 6-FB
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

MR. S/SCOTT SUMMERS 
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

MS. MARVEL/CAROL DANVERS
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

NAMOR 
EARX 3 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 3 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38)-FB
EARX 1-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 3 (5)-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

NEUTRON
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 6

NIGHTCRAWLER/KURT WAGNER
UNIX 2-FB
BEASTS-FB

NIGHTHAWK/KYLE RICHMOND
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0 (41)-FB
UNIX 0 (20)-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

NOVA/RICH RIDER
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

OMEGA 
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 7

OSBORN, PRESIDENT NORMAN
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
4
UNIX 2

OX
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

PHOENIX/JEAN GREY
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5-BTS
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

POPE IMMORTUS
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 6

PROTON
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 6

PRYOR, MADELYNE
EARX 5
EARX 11
EARX X

PSYCHO-MAN
UNIX 5-FB

PSYLOCKE/BETSY BRADDOCK
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

QUASAR
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

QUICKSILVER
EARX 6-FB
4-FB
EARX 9-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4

RANN, COMMANDER ARCTURUS
UNIX 5-FB
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6

RED SKULL
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB

REDWING/WYATT WINGFOOT 
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
CAP
UNIX 5

RICHARDS, REED 
4 (38)-FB
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB 
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 3-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4 (6)-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

ROM, SPACEKNIGHT
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 3

ROMA
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

SAI/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
UNIX 4

SANDMAN 
EARX 2

SCARLET WITCH
EARX 6-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4

SHANNA
UNIX 3-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 3
BEASTS

SILVER SURFER
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 12
EARX X

SKULL 
EARX 2-BTS
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6-BTS
EARX 0.5
EARX 7-BTS
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X-BTS

SORCERESS SUPREME/CLEA
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8

SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 0-FB
SPIDEY (1)-FB
SPIDEY (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
SPIDEY (6-7)-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

SPIDERS MAN 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
SPIDEY-FB-BTS
SPIDEY
UNIX 7
UNIX 8

STAR-LORD
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

STARFOX
UNIX 0-FB

STORM 
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

STRANGE, DR. STEPHEN
UNIX 1 (2-3)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 1 (4-5)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 5-BTS
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4-BTS
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

SUNFIRE
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

SUNSPOT 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 6
UNIX 7

SUPREME INTELLIGENCE/SUPREMOR
UNIX 8-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

TAO
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

TEXAS JACK/JACK MULDOON 
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 8

THANOS
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 8-FB
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7

THING/BEN GRIMM 
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB 
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
4
UNIX 1
CAP
UNIX 5

THOR 
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0 (39)-FB
EARX 5 (5)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 1
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X
CAP
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS

THUNDERBIRD
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 2

TOAD
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3

TORA
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 4
UNIX 6

TOWER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS

TRITON
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX

UATU 
UNIX 6-FB
EARX 2-FB
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
4
UNIX 5
UNIX 7

VENOM/MAY PARKER
SPIDEY (1)-FB
SPIDEY (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY (6-7)-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4
UNIX 5

VISION 
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 9
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5

VULTURE
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 12
EARX X

WASP
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

WHITE TIGER
UNIX 4
UNIX 6

WOLVERINE/LOGAN
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 5
EARX 11

WONG
EARX 4
UNIX 4
UNIX 6

XAVIER, PROFESSOR CHARLES
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
BEASTS-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 2

Up next: Universe X 9-X!

-Daron Jensen

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Thread 34

Subject: Universe X 9-X

Jul 03, 2008 5:06 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Universe X #9
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, X-51, Mephisto(Mr. Church), Iceman, Angel, Sgt. Cage, Spider-Man, Gargoyle, Captain Britain, Dragon Man, Black Knight, Vision, Sasquatch, Mar-Vell, Thor, Venom, Sunfire, Tao, Sumo, Wong, Supreme Intelligence, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Bruce Banner, Hulk, Reed, Sue, Buzz, Chuck, Deviant, Namor, Dr. Strange, Quasar, Ms. Marvel, Star-Lord, Nova, Iron Man, Commander Rann, Phoenix, Ulysses Bloodstone, Daredevil(Murdock), Giant Man, Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze), Dr. Doom, Human Torch(Johnny), Baron Zemo, She-Hulk, Falcon, Xavier, Spider-Woman

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & X-51 chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
The origin of Immortus! Lots of FlashBacks to the time travels of Kang & Immortus and encounters with heroes, but the point of time travel in this reality, as laid out in this origin sequence, is that Mephisto orchestrated it to set up ever-expanding alternate realities to empower him further. Therefore, Ill only list appearances by Immortus & Mephisto here.(even though Avengers: Forever is referenced)
Pg6-pg23
Gargoyle dies while the Human Torch in New York is extinguished. Meanwhile, Captain Britain & Black Knight chat and Sasquatch hangs with a pack of Wolverines. Mar-Vell & co. check in with Sunfire then stop by the moon to kill the Supreme Intelligence. Namor stops by to chat with Reed and Sue, and billions of Kree arrive in the land of the dead, where Mar-Vell reveals he wants to build heaven. 

Universe X #10
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, X-51, Gargoyle, Mephisto, Mar-Vell, Thor, Venom, Him(Adam), Her(Eve), Loki, Absorbing Man, Pope Immortus, Sgt. Cage, Texas Jack, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Beast, Black Panther, Storm, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Belasco, Dr. Strange, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, Human Torch(Johnny), Giant Man, Moon Knight, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Death, Thanos. 

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & X-51 chat. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Origin of Mephisto and Clea. Dormammu also appears. 
Pg4-pg5-FB
Various characters deal with Mephistos machinations. Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider, Daredevil(Murdock), Dr. Strange, Gargoyle, & Nightcrawler. (everyone is recapped from previous issues)
Pg6-pg9
Gargoyle mutters one last time before disintegrating, as Mephisto watches. Meanwhile, Mar-Vell & co. visit Wundagore and meet Him. 
Pg10-FB
Reed has turned Galactus into a star, Franklin is turned into the new Galactus. Reed, Franklin, Silver Surfer, Him(Adam), and High Evolutionary appear. 
Pg11-pg17
Loki reassemble the Absorbing Man. Meanhwile, Mephisto attacks the New York Human Torch, Immortuss face falls off, revealing Kangs underneath. Belasco attacks with the Dire Wraiths, and Mar-Vell revelas who Belasco really is. 
Pg18-pg21-FB
Origin of Belasco: Kurt Wagner! Kurt & Mephisto appear. 
Pg22-pg23
The dead prepare to fight Death and Thanos. 

Universe X #11
Appearances: 
Mar-Vell, X-51, Angel, Texas Jack, Sgt. Cage, Spider-Man, Absorbing Man, Nighthawk, Thor, Venom, Beast, Black Panther, Storm, Ka-Zar, Shanna, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Belasco(Kurt Wagner), Him(Adam), Her(Eve), Loki, Reed, Sue, Buzz, Chuck, Deviant, Vision, Phoenix, Banshee, Daredevil(Murdock), Giant Man, Iron Man, Black Widow(Natasha), Puck, Bloodstone, Dr. Doom, Hawkeye, Union Jack, Xavier, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Mephisto, Ms. Marvel, Quasar, Human Torch(Johnny), Hulk, Bruce Banner, Pope Immortus, Silver Surfer

Synopsis: 
Pg1
X-51 & Mar-Vell chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Origin of HIM; Adam Warlock! Mostly recapped from Earth X 0-FB & 11-FB, only new bits involve Warlock, following them. 
Pg6-pg23
Everyone fights. Lots and lots of fighting. 

Iron Men
Appearances: 
Iron Maiden(Karen), Spiders Man, Magneto, Toad, Black Knight, Cable

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg3
Iron maiden goes to the Savage land. 
Pg4-pg7-FB
Magneto builds Sentinel City in the Savage Land. 
Pg8-pg12
Iron Maiden is attacked an imprisoned by Toad. 
Pg13-FB
Vision & Captain Britain build the Iron Avengers after the real ones were killed. 
Pg14-pg17-FB: shortly before this issue
Black Knight decides to command the Iron Avengers instead of the world. Luna, Medusa, Captain Britain, Black Knight, Dragon Man appear. 
Pg18-pg19
Iron Maiden communicates with a telepath. 
Pg20-FB
Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch leave Magneto, Toad & Mastermind also appear. 
Pg21
Toad taunts Magneto. 
Pg22-pg23-FB
Magneto & Toad live in Sentinel City. 
Pg24-pg48
Black Bolt arrives and fights Toad, Iron Maiden meets Cable. She decides to look for Reed Richards to see if she can find more Vibranium. 

Universe X #12
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, Mar-Vell, Dr. Strange, Daredevil(Murdock), Dr. Doom, Iron Man, Phoenix, Giant Man, Black Bolt, Maximus-BTS, Nova, Commander Rann, Absorbing Man, Silver Surfer, Spiders Man, Spider-Man, Angel, Vision, Him, Her, Wong, Loki, Reed, Sue, Buzz, Chuck, Iron Maiden, Gorgon, Triton, Deviant, Venom, Sgt. Cage, Texas Jack, Magneto, Black Knight, Pope Immortus, Mephisto, Marionette, Bug, Spartak, Spidra, Ant Man(NOT Pym), X-51, 

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Nighthawk & Mar-Vell chat. 
Pg2-pg5-FB
Lots of recapping to tie everything together. No new information. 
Pg6-pg23
Black Bolt joins the fight in the land of the dead, Silver Surfer fights Absorbing Man in New York. When the Surfer falls Spiders Man makes an illusion to make Creel think the fight is still going. Elsewhere, Him kills Wong, whos been working for the bad guys. Iron Maiden tells Reed she can redistribute Vibranium. Magneto joins the fights against the Absorbing Man. Mar-Vell convinces Immortus not to use the time machine. 

Universe X #X
Appearances: 
Nighthawk, X-51, Pope Immortus, Mephisto, Mar-Vell, Absorbing Man, Angel, Magneto, Thor, Spider-Man, Venom, Spiders Man, Sgt. Cage, Him, Her, Iron Maiden, Texas Jack, Loki, Mr. S, Charmer, Dogface, Double Header, Mermaid, Tower, Silver Surfer, Vision, Commander Rann, Dr. Doom, Iron Man, Dr. Strange, Giant Man, Ms. Marvel, Nova, Quasar, Star-Lord, Black Bolt, Daredevil(Murdock), Phoenix, Death, Thanos, Reed, Sue, Gorgon, Karnak, Triton, Buzz, Chuck, Deviant, Gargoyle, Captain America, Bucky, Nick Fury, Banshee, Dum Dum, Union Jack, Reb Ralston, Gabe Jones, Spider-Woman, Moon Knight, Falcon, Human Torch(both), Contessa, She-Hulk, Xavier, Wonder Man, Gambit, Ghost Rider, Puck, Green Goblin, Swordsman, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow(Natasha), Tao, Sunfire, White Tiger, Tora, Sumo, Mantis, Sai, Chi, Reed, Sue, Buzz, Chuck, Pope Immortus, Bug, Marionatte, Spartak, Daredevil, Titania, Captain Britain, Medusa, Belasco, Redwing, Thing, Alicia, Hulk, Banner, Colossus, Uatu

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg48
The living heroes defeat the Absorbing Man and the dead heroes defeat Mephisto. Thanos kills Death. Absorbing Man turns himself into Vibranium and Iron Maiden redistributes it throughout the world, saving it. Mar-Vell sends Dr. Strange back into his own body. Immortus apologizes to Reed. Captain Britain proposes to Medusa. Belasco watches the X-Men. Alicia & Ben have carved Captain Americas face into Mount Rushmore. X-51 decides to do something out the Celestial eggs in alternate realities. Nighthawk turns into something else. Thor turns back into a man. 
FB
Thanos as a child. 

Some placement suggestions: 

ABSORBING MAN/CARL CREEL
UNIX 4 (5)-FB
UNIX 4 (10-12)-FB
4
UNIX 3-BTS
UNIX 4-BTS
UNIX 7-BTS
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

ANGEL/WARREN WORTHINGTON
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

BANNER, BRUCE 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 7 (2-3)-FB
EARX 12-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 7 (4-5)-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX X

BEAST/HANK MCCOY 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
BEASTS (7)-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 8
BEASTS (8-10)-FB
BEASTS (15-18)-FB
BEASTS (23-26)-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

BELASCO/KURT WAGNER
UNIX 10 (5)-FB
UNIX 2-FB
BEASTS-FB
UNIX 10 (18-21)-FB
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 3
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

BLACK BOLT 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB-BTS
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 9 (20-21)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

BLACK KNIGHT
EARX 9
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5
UNIX 9
IRONMEN-FB
IRONMEN
UNIX 12
UNIX X

BLACK PANTHER 
EARX 4-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

BLACK WIDOW/NATASHA ROMANOVA
UNIX 11
UNIX X

BLACK WIDOW
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5

BUCKY/JAMES BARNES
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB
CAP-VO
UNIX X

BUG
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 12
UNIX X

CABLE/NATHAN SUMMERS
IRONMEN

CAGE, SGT. LUKE 
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 1
EARX 8
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS 
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 0.5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 1 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38-39)-FB
EARX 0.5 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 0.5 (10-15)-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5 (16)-FB
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
CAP
UNIX 5-BTS
UNIX X

CAPTAIN BRITAIN/BRIAN BRADDOCK
UNIX 2-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5
UNIX 9
IRONMEN-FB
UNIX X

CHARMER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX X

COLOSSUS
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX X

CRIMSON DYNAMO
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DAREDEVIL/MATT MURDOCK
UNIX 10-FB
4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

DAREDEVIL 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX X

DEATH
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
CAP
UNIX 10
UNIX X

DOGFACE 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

DOMINO 
EARX 2
EARX 4
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

DOUBLE HEADER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

DRAGON MAN
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5
UNIX 9
IRONMEN-FB

DR. DOOM/VICTOR VON DOOM
4 (38)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 11-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

FALCON/SAM WILSON
EARX 1-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX X

FANCY DAN
EARX 8
EARX 9

FERAL 
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

FURY, NICK
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 7
CAP-VO
UNIX X

GALACTUS/GALAN
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB

GALACTUS/FRANKLIN RICHARDS
4-FB
EARX 2-FB
UNIX 10-FB
EARX 12
EARX X
4

GAMBIT/REMY LEBEAU
BEASTS-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX X

GARGOYLE/ISAAC CHRISTIANS
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 10-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX X

GHOST RIDER/JOHNNY BLAZE
UNIX 10-FB
UNIX 4-FB
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX X

GIANT MAN/HANK PYM
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

GORGON 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 12
UNIX X

GRIMM, ALICIA
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
EARTHX
4 (6)-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX X

GRIMM, BUZZ 
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

GRIMM, CHUCK
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

HARPY/BETTY BANNER 
EARX 7-FB
EARX 4

HAVOK/ALEX SUMMERS
EARX 6-FB
EARX 5

HAWKEYE
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 11
UNIX X

HER/EVE
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 2
EARX X
4-FB
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

HIM/ADAM 
EARX 11-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 11-FB
UNIX 10-FB
EARX 2
EARX X
4-FB
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

HULK 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX X

HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND
EARX 0-FB
UNIX X

HUMAN TORCH/JOHNNY STORM
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 0 (38)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
4 (26)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

HYDRA 
EARX 1
EARX 4
UNIX 4

ICEMAN/BOBBY DRAKE
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE RICHARDS
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

IRON MAIDEN 
EARX 4-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
IRONMEN
UNIX 12
UNIX X

IRON MAN/TONY STARK 
EARX 12 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 12 (4-5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 8-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

JACK OF HEARTS 
EARX 3
EARX 0.5
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 7

JONES, RICK
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB

KA-ZAR
UNIX 3-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 3
BEASTS
UNIX 11

KARNAK 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX X

LOKI
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
UNIX 4-FB-BTS
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

LUNA 
EARX 9-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
IRONMEN-FB

MACHINE MAN/X-51/AARON STACK 
EARX 10-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

MAGNETO
EARX 6-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
IRONMEN-FB
UNIX 3
IRONMEN
UNIX 12
UNIX X

MAN-WOLF/JOHN JAMESON
EARX 0
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MAN-THING
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5-BTS

MAR-VELL
UNIX 0-FB
EARX X
4-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
CAP
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

MARIONETTE
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 12
UNIX X

MAXIMUS
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 12-BTS

MEDUSA 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5
IRONMEN-FB
UNIX X

MEPHISTO/ADVERSARY/MR. CHURCH
UNIX 10 (2-3)-FB
UNIX 9-FB
UNIX (4-5)-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0 (22-23)-FB
UNIX 10 (18-21)-FB
UNIX 0 (20)-FB
UNIX 0-OP
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

MERLYN
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

MERMAID
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

MODOKS CORPSE 
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 8

MONTANA
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

MOON KNIGHT/MARC SPECTOR
UNIX 6-FB
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 10
UNIX X

MR. S/SCOTT SUMMERS 
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

MS. MARVEL/CAROL DANVERS
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX X

NAMOR 
EARX 3 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (30-33)-FB
EARX 3 (4)-FB
EARX 0 (38)-FB
EARX 1-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
4-FB
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 3 (5)-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9

NEUTRON
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 6

NIGHTHAWK/KYLE RICHMOND
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0 (41)-FB
UNIX 0 (20)-FB
UNIX 0
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

NOVA/RICH RIDER
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 12
UNIX X

OMEGA 
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 7

OSBORN, PRESIDENT NORMAN
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
4
UNIX 2
UNIX X

OX
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X

PHOENIX/JEAN GREY
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 3-FB
4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 5-BTS
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

POPE IMMORTUS
UNIX 9-FB
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 1
UNIX 3
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

PROTON
UNIX 5-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 6

PRYOR, MADELYNE
EARX 5
EARX 11
EARX X

PSYCHO-MAN
UNIX 5-FB

PSYLOCKE/BETSY BRADDOCK
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

QUASAR
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX X

QUICKSILVER
EARX 6-FB
IRONMEN-FB
4-FB
EARX 9-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

RANN, COMMANDER ARCTURUS
UNIX 5-FB
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 9
UNIX 12
UNIX X

RED SKULL
EARX 1 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 8-FB
EARX 1 (5)-FB

REDWING/WYATT WINGFOOT 
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
CAP
UNIX 5
UNIX X

RICHARDS, REED 
4 (38)-FB
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB
UNIX 0-FB 
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
UNIX 10-FB
EARX 3-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
4 (6)-FB
4
UNIX 1
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

ROM, SPACEKNIGHT
UNIX 3-FB
UNIX 3

ROMA
UNIX 2-FB
UNIX 2

SAI/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
UNIX 4
UNIX X

SANDMAN 
EARX 2

SCARLET WITCH
EARX 6-FB
IRONMEN-FB
4-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7
4
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

SHANNA
UNIX 3-FB
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 3
BEASTS
UNIX 11
UNIX X

SILVER SURFER
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 11-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 10 (4-5)-FB
UNIX 1-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 10 (10)-FB
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

SKULL 
EARX 2-BTS
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6-BTS
EARX 0.5
EARX 7-BTS
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X-BTS

SORCERESS SUPREME/CLEA
UNIX 10-FB
UNIX 1-FB
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 7
EARX 8

SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 8-FB
EARX 0.5-FB
UNIX 0-FB
SPIDEY (1)-FB
SPIDEY (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
SPIDEY (6-7)-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

SPIDERS MAN 
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 0.5
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 1
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
SPIDEY-FB-BTS
SPIDEY
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
IRONMEN
UNIX 12
UNIX X

STAR-LORD
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX X

STARFOX
UNIX X-FB
UNIX 0-FB

STORM 
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 4
EARX 10
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

STRANGE, DR. STEPHEN
UNIX 1 (2-3)-FB
UNIX 10-FB
4-FB
UNIX 1 (4-5)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 5-BTS
EARX 7
4
UNIX 2
UNIX 3
UNIX 4-BTS
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 12
UNIX X

SUNFIRE
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX X

SUNSPOT 
EARX 6-FB
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 6
UNIX 7

SUPREME INTELLIGENCE/SUPREMOR
UNIX 8-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9

TAO
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 9
UNIX X

TEXAS JACK/JACK MULDOON 
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 0.5
EARX 8
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY-FB
UNIX 5
UNIX 8
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

THANOS
UNIX X-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 8-FB
UNIX 3
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 10
UNIX X

THING/BEN GRIMM 
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB 
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 2
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
4
UNIX 1
CAP
UNIX 5
UNIX X

THOR 
EARX 5 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0 (26-27)-FB
EARX 5 (4)-FB
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0 (39)-FB
EARX 5 (5)-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 1
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 12
EARX X
CAP
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS-FB
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

THUNDERBIRD
EARX 6-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 2

TOAD
EARX 6-FB
IRONMEN-FB
UNIX 3
IRONMEN

TORA
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX X

TOWER 
EARX 2
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 6
UNIX 7
UNIX 8
BEASTS
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX X

TRITON
EARX 9-FB
EARX 2-FB
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 12
EARX X
EARTHX
UNIX 12
UNIX X

UATU 
UNIX 6-FB
EARX 2-FB
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
EARX 2
EARX 3
EARX 4
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 7
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
4
UNIX 5
UNIX 7
UNIX X

VENOM/MAY PARKER
SPIDEY (1)-FB
SPIDEY (4-5)-FB
EARX 1
EARX 3
EARX 6
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 10
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 0
EARTHX
UNIX 2
SPIDEY (6-7)-FB
SPIDEY
UNIX 4
UNIX 5
UNIX 9
UNIX 10
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

VISION 
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 1
EARX 5
EARX 6
EARX 9
EARX 11
EARX 12
EARX X
UNIX 5
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX 12
UNIX X

VULTURE
EARX 8
EARX 9
EARX 12
EARX X

WASP
EARX 12-FB
EARX 0-FB
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 4-FB
EARX 7

WHITE TIGER
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX X

WOLVERINE/LOGAN
EARX 6-FB
UNIX 0-FB
EARX 5
EARX 11

WONG
EARX 4
UNIX 4
UNIX 6
UNIX 9
UNIX 12

XAVIER, PROFESSOR CHARLES
EARX 6 (2-3)-FB
EARX 0-FB
EARX 6 (4-5)-FB
BEASTS-FB
EARX 7
UNIX 2
UNIX 9
UNIX 11
UNIX X

Up next: Paradise X: Heralds 1-3!

-Daron Jensen

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Thread 35

Subject: June call for analyses

Jun 01, 2008 1:39 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Another month, another call. Despite the tremendous (to me) number of comics I'm picking up these days (but nowhere near Fury's total), there still are some from the post-FF 1 canonical mainstream 616 MU I'm passing up. I'm requesting volunteers to submit analyses of the storylines below so that I can add them to my draft update of the current Marvel Calendar or to calendar notes I have for older periods. These analyses also help us hash out chronology for the MCP. I've noted previous volunteers in parentheses. If these folks would care to add to their work load, or of others would care to chip in, let me know. All analyses are greatly appreciated.

Also, please let me know if I've messed up the status of the comics themselves or assignments I've noted. Thanks much!  

Completed stories (as of 6/1/08)
Annihilation: Conquest #1-6 (Somebody)
Daredevil: Battlin Jack Murdock #1-4 (JD)
Daredevil: Dead On Arrival (Jeph)
Foolkiller v2 #1-5
Immortal Iron Fist #10-14 (Don)
Nova v4 #8-12 and Nova Annual #1 (Somebody)
X-Men Origin: Colossus (wolframbane)

Future stuff
Amazing Spider-Man Family #1 (Michael)
Angel: Revelations #1-5
ClanDestine v2 #1-5 (Don)
Daredevil v2 #107-110 (Col_Fury)
Eternals, v4 #1-? (Col_Fury)
Foolkiller: Short Time (White Angels?) #1-5
Franklin Richasrds: Summer Smackdown!
Ghost Rider v6 #24 (Col_Fury)
Ghost Rider v6 #25 (Col_Fury)
Ghost Rider v6 #26 (Col_Fury)
Ghost Rider Annual #2
Guardians of the Galaxy v2 #1-3
Immortal Iron Fist #16
Immortal Iron Fist #17-20
Immortal Iron Fist: The Origin of Danny Rand
Marvel 1985 #1-6 [canonical parts?]
Moon Knight v5 #14-19 (Deuce)
Moon Knight v5 #20 (Deuce)
Nova v4 #13-15
NYX: No Way Home #1-6
Punisher v7 #56-60 (Col_Fury)
Punisher v7 #61-?
Punisher War Journal v2 #18-23
Runaways v2 #25-30 (JD)
Runaways v3 #1-? (JD) 
Skaar: Son of Hulk #1-? (Kevin)
True Believers #1-5
Venom: Dark Origin #1-5
Wolverine v3 #66-73 (Col_Fury)
Wolverine: Killing Made Simple (Col_Fury)
Wolverine: Origins #26-27 (Col_Fury)
X-Factor Special: Layla Miller (Kevin)

Paul B.

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Jun 01, 2008 2:17 pm 
By JD

You can put me down for the third volume of Runaways.

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Jun 01, 2008 3:00 pm 
By michaelyuri

Paul Bourcier wrote:
>>>
Amazing Spider-Man Family #1
<<<

Put me down for this one.

-Mike

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Jun 01, 2008 6:09 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Wolverine: Origins #21-25 is already up, and you can put me down for Wolverine: Killing Made Simple, Ghost Rider v6 24-26, and... Eternals v4.

-Daron Jensen

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Jun 01, 2008 7:05 pm 
By Kevin W.
Director

>>>
Dead of Night Featuring Man-Thing #1-4
<<<

I was pretty sure this was non-canon, based upon the solicits for it saying it was a "re-imagining" of the Man-Thing's origin.


>>>
X-Factor Special: Layla Miller
<<<

Sure, why not, I'll take this one. Keeping track of Bendis References since 2001!

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Jun 01, 2008 9:10 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Thanks, guys! I updated the call.

Paul B.

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Jun 02, 2008 2:37 pm 
By Frederic Krier

Kevin W. wrote:
>>>
>>>
Dead of Night Featuring Man-Thing #1-4
<<<

I was pretty sure this was non-canon, based upon the solicits for it saying it was a "re-imagining" of the Man-Thing's origin.
<<<

Well, I've read the first two issues. It's basically a ""mature" retelling of Man-Thing's early days (for instance Jennifer Kale is now a stripper...  ), with Digger as a Cryptkeeper-like narrator (probably not the most trustworthy narrator anyway...). It does seem quite non-canon to me, at least for the main parts. I wonder though if Digger's appearances in the framing sequence could possibly be seen as canon?

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Jun 21, 2008 1:47 pm 
By michaelyuri

Paul Bourcier wrote:
>>>
Hulk: Raging Thunder
<<<

I'll be posting an analysis of this one shortly.

-Mike

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Jun 22, 2008 2:57 am 
By TheDeuce

i'll do the moon knights. yes, for the first time since i've signed up i'm actually going to try and contribute something. i make no promises on the quality, but i'll do my best. i just hope that after i break this hymen that i don't go hog wild and get over confident.

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Jun 22, 2008 9:28 am 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

TheDeuce wrote:
>>>
i'll do the moon knights. yes, for the first time since i've signed up i'm actually going to try and contribute something.
<<<

Thanks, Deuce. 

Paul B.

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Jun 22, 2008 10:06 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Ghost Rider v6 #24 ends with a to be continued, so I won't be submitting any Ghost Riders until the arc is up.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 04, 2008 6:14 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Just got back from spending a week and a half in Italy, which is why I couldn't attend the Chicago ComicCon. I'll get to July's call next week, after I pick up the latest Marvel Previews. And, boy, will I have some catching up to do on new comics. 

Paul B.

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Thread 36

Subject: Paradise X: Heralds 1-3

Jul 04, 2008 3:15 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Paradise X: Heralds #1
Appearances: 
X-51(Earth X), Wolverine 2013, Colossus 2013, Storm 2013, Hyperion(new), Spider-Girl(new), Deathlok(Luther Manning), Killraven, Bloodstorm(Mutant X), Iron Man 2020(Arno Stark), Uatu(Earth X), Brute(Reed Richards of Counter-Earth)

Synopsis: 
Pg1
Days of Future Past. Wolverine, Colossus, & Storm approach the Baxter Building. This repeats dialogue from various panels of Uncanny 142 pgs 7 & 8, no new information. 
Pg2
Repeat of Uncanny 142 pg17, no new information. 
Pg3
Colossus & Storm lay dead, Wolverines skeleton is nearby, a Monolith appears. This would follow the end of Uncanny 142, as well as Uncanny 202-FB. 
Pg4-pg5pn1
Wolverine wakes up on the moon and is greeted by X-51, who explains he brought Wolverine back to life using the table Merlyn used to bring Captain Britain back to life a few times. 
Pg5pn2-pg5pn3-FB
X-51 reconstructs Wolverines body. 
Pg5pn4-pg5
Wolverine recognizes this as the Watchers home and X-51 introduces him to the team hes assembled. 
Pg6pn1-FB
Hyperion is older with grey receding hair, wearing a black suit. Hes seen right after his Squadron Supreme was killed by the human populace of his world when they launched a nuclear strike. Hes the only survivor. 
Pg6pn2-FB
Spider-Girl is wearing the MC2 suit. Shes seen as a young girl with her parents.(Mary Jane and Peter, whos later revealed to be a clone in her world) 
Pg7pn1-FB
Deathlok/Luther Manning. Hes seen in an image that looks a lot like the cover to Astonishing Tales 25. 
Pg7pn2-FB
Killraven. His world is seen as its attacked by the Martians. Only Martians appear. 
Pg8pn1
Wolverine is shocked to see Ororo. 
Pg8pn2-FB
Ororo is Bloodstorm, a vampire from the Mutant X world. Shes seen being attacked by Dracula. 
Pg8pn3-FB
Iron Man 2020. Hes seen beating the piss out of Machine Man 2020. 
Pg9-pg23
X-51 gives the group a recap of Earth X & Universe X, then explains that hes brought them together to warn the Reed Richards of alternate worlds of the Celestial seed growing inside each of their Earths. By helping him, he offers to help achieve what each gathered person desires most. X-51 & Hyperion go to a world ruled by Kulan Gath, Reed Richards has been executed. Deathlok & Killraven go to a world ruled by Satyrnin. Bloodstorm & Iron Man 2020 go to a world where everyones a vampire. Wolverine & Spider-Girl go to a world where Reed Richards is President, but hes actually the Brute of Counter-Earth!(revealed next issue) 

Paradise X: Heralds #2
Appearances: 
X-51(Earth X), Wolverine 2013, Hyperion(new), Spider-Girl(new), Deathlok(Luther Manning), Killraven, Bloodstorm(Mutant X), Iron Man 2020(Arno Stark), Uatu(Earth X), Brute(Reed Richards of Counter-Earth)

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg17
Hyperion kills all of Kulan Gaths men, and then Kulan Gath when its revealed the Celestial embryo is where hed been getting his power. He & X-51 leave. Satyrnin greets Killraven and Deathlok, she makes a pass at Killraven and Deathlok leaves. Bloodstorm and Iron Man 2020 chat with the vampire Reed Richards and Mole Man. They give their warning and leave, Reed & Mole Man blow up the core of their Earth, destroying the planet. Wolverine & Spider-Girl fight the Brute and are saved by Namor and the Invisible Woman. They give a bit of history of their world. 
Pg18-FB
The Brute travelled to this world and killed the Fantastic Four(Reed, Thing & Spider-man) and took Reeds place. Following Fantastic Four Unlimited #3. 
Pg19-pg22
Namor & Sue reveal they already took care of the Celestial Embryo, so Wolverine & Spider-Girl leave. Everyone but Killraven appear back on the moon, where a bunch of Watchers have gathered to kill Uatu. 

Paradise X: Heralds #3
Appearances: 
X-51(Earth X), Wolverine 2013, Hyperion(new), Spider-Girl(new), Deathlok(Luther Manning), Killraven, Bloodstorm(Mutant X), Iron Man 2020(Arno Stark), Uatu(Earth X)

Synopsis: 
Pg1
The Watchers confront X-51s group. 
Pg2-pg3-FB
Uatu makes his presence known to the Thing. 
Pg4-pg7
The group moves Uatu away from the gathered Watchers. 
Pg8-FB
Black Bolt prepares to blind Uatu. 
Pg9-pg22
Killraven reappears and X-51 tricks the gathered Watchers into returning to their own realities through the Monolith, but on Earth instead of on the moon. Now that the various alternate Earths know theyre being watched they will figure out what they need to do. Now that their job is done, X-51 can go about giving the group members what they wanted: Wolverine a world where his friends are still alive. Bloodstorm a cure to her vampirism. Spider-Girl to meet a version of her dad. Iron Man 2020 to get out of the shadow of Tony Stark. Killraven to find a way to defeat the Martians. Deathlok a way to turn off his computer. Hyperion to find a way to kill himself. 

References: 
Three worlds are given as examples when the Watchers returns to their realities. 

Avengers of the 50s, their world has been taken over by Skrulls. Marvel Boy, Human Robot, Venus, Gorilla-Man, & 3-D Man appear. 

The Fantastic Four are Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Flo Steinberg, and someone else. I remember this from someplace the Assistant Editors month issue of What If?, maybe? Or What The!?!? 

President Steve Rogers and General Nick Fury, Furys in a space uniform. Was this an issue of What If..?? 

As far as I can tell, Killraven & Deathlok are from their established timelines. However, I know next to nothing about them, so I have no idea where to place these guys. Killraven eventually returns to his own time happy with the knowledge that at least a world will defeat the Martians, even if its not his own. So really, anywhere for him. Deathlok has a new body grown for him by X-51, free of cybernetic implants, but its not shown if he ever gets to use it. I have no idea, but sometime before he becomes the Demolisher at least. 

Arno Stark is trying to get out from under Tonys Shadow, and eventually leaves with a Guardians of the Galaxy to help with radiation treatments. Theres a FlashBack where he has another encounter with Machine Man 2020 in an issue of Paradise X where Arno accidentally set off an atom bomb, so I would say after his Deaths Head appearances, and before the Iron Man 2020 one-shot. 

Bloodstorm wants to find a cure, and receives a blood transfusion from the earth X Storm in Paradise X. She is later cured over in Mutant X, so I guess the transfusion didnt work out as planned. Sometime before Mutant X 27, then. 

Wolverine is after his death in Uncanny 142. 

Spider-Girl & Hyperion are new versions, so its irrelevant. 

Some placement suggestions: 

Days of Future Past: 

COLOSSUS 2013

{UX 141}
UX 142
UX 202-FB
*PARX: H 1

STORM 2013

{UX 141}
UX 142
UX 202-FB
*PARX: H 1

WOLVERINE 2013

{UX 141}
UX 142
UX 202-FB
*PARX: H 1 (3)
*PARX: H 1-FB
*PARX: H 1 (4-23)
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3

Earth X: 

BLACK BOLT 
EARX 0-FB
EARX 9 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB-BTS
*PARX: H 3-FB
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 9 (4-5)-FB
EARX 9 (20-21)-FB
EARX 3-FB
EARX 1
...

MACHINE MAN/X-51/AARON STACK 
...
UNIX 12
UNIX X
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3

THING/BEN GRIMM 
EARX 2 (2)-FB
EARX 0 (36-37)-FB
EARX 2 (3)-FB
EARX 11-FB
4 (7-8)-FB
*PARX: H 3-FB
EARX 2 (4-5)-FB
EARX 0 (40-41)-FB 
UNIX 0-FB
UNIX 5-FB
EARX 2 (10-14)-FB
EARX 2
...

UATU 
UNIX 6-FB
*PARX: H 3 (2-3)-FB
EARX 2-FB
*PARX: H 3 (8)-FB
UNIX 7-FB
EARX 0
EARX 1
...
UNIX 7
UNIX X
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3

2020: 

IRON MAN/ARNO STARK | 2020
ASM @20
S-H3 3
AWC 61
AVF 11
AVF 12-OP
{MM2 2}
MM2 3 (1-20)
TCORPS 2
MM2 3 (21)
FF 405
MM2 3 (22-23)
MM2 4 (1-15)
*PARX: H 1-FB
MM2 4 (16-23)
DH 9
DH 10
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3
IM2020
D2099 25

MACHINE MAN | 2020
MM2 1
MM2 2
MM2 3 (1-20)
TCORPS 2
MM2 3 (21-23)
MM2 4 (1-15)
*PARX: H 1-FB
MM2 4 (16-23)

Others: 

BLOODSTORM II/ORORO MUNROE | MUTANT X-VERSE
MX 12-FB
*PARX: H 1-FB
MX 13
MX '00
{MX 1}
MX 2

MX 12
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3
MX 15
MX 16


HYPERION (new)
PARX: H 1-FB
PARX: H 1
PARX: H 2
PARX: H 3

SPIDER-GIRL/MAY PARKER (new)
PARX: H 1-FB
PARX: H 1
PARX: H 2
PARX: H 3

BRUTE/REED RICHARDS COUNTER-EARTH
...
FF 182
FF 183
FFU 3-FB
FFU 3
*PARX: H 2-FB
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2

KILLRAVEN/JONATHAN RAVEN

PARX: H 1
PARX: H 2
PARX: H 3


DEATHLOK/COLONEL LUTHER MANNING

PARX: H 1-FB

PARX: H 1
PARX: H 2
PARX: H 3


Up eventually: Paradise X! Eventually.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 04, 2008 3:31 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
Arno Stark is trying to get out from under Tonys Shadow, and eventually leaves with a Guardians of the Galaxy to help with radiation treatments. Theres a FlashBack where he has another encounter with Machine Man 2020 in an issue of Paradise X where Arno accidentally set off an atom bomb, so I would say after his Deaths Head appearances, and before the Iron Man 2020 one-shot.
<<<

Speaking from a position of complete ignorance outside of this paragraph, why not just say "last appearance to date" then?


Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
Bloodstorm wants to find a cure, and receives a blood transfusion from the earth X Storm in Paradise X. She is later cured over in Mutant X, so I guess the transfusion didnt work out as planned. Sometime before Mutant X 27, then. 
<<<

Well, I don't see how a blood transfusion is meant to cure a vampire anyway, rather than just give them their meal for the day...

And, to keep it all to one post, did you code Universe X as "Unix" deliberately, or was that just something you skipped over? 

And you realise that that "4" code is never going to stick for 4: A Universe X Special, ja? Even the MU series "4" got coded FOUR.

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Jul 04, 2008 5:59 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Somebody wrote:
>>>
Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
Arno Stark is trying to get out from under Tonys Shadow, and eventually leaves with a Guardians of the Galaxy to help with radiation treatments. Theres a FlashBack where he has another encounter with Machine Man 2020 in an issue of Paradise X where Arno accidentally set off an atom bomb, so I would say after his Deaths Head appearances, and before the Iron Man 2020 one-shot.
<<<

Speaking from a position of complete ignorance outside of this paragraph, why not just say "last appearance to date" then?
<<<

The 2020 one-shot was where Arno finally got out from under Tony's shadow and became a hero in his own right. Placing this after the one-shot would be back-pedalling his character development. It's not completely out of the question, but I'd rather not. 


Somebody wrote:
>>>
I don't see how a blood transfusion is meant to cure a vampire anyway,
<<<

Yeah, I didn't get it either. 


Somebody wrote:
>>>
And, to keep it all to one post, did you code Universe X as "Unix" deliberately, or was that just something you skipped over?  
<<<

Heh. Nope, didn't even occur to me. I was originally going to use EX, UX, & PX, but EX was already taken, so I switched it to EARX, UNIX, & PARX. 


Somebody wrote:
>>>
And you realise that that "4" code is never going to stick for 4: A Universe X Special, ja? Even the MU series "4" got coded FOUR.
<<<

It gets the point across. *shrug* I will point out that the indicia is only "4"... it doesn't have "A Universe X Special" in it. Once we get to Cap the indicia says Universe X: Cap, and that's the format that's used for all of the Paradise X specials and minis. Also, only the minis have numbers, the one-shots don't have "#1" on their covers. 

I suppose they could be switched to UNIX: F,(to avoid confusion with #4 of UNIX) UNIX: S, UNIX: C, & UNIX: IM, if only to match the Paradise X specials...

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 04, 2008 10:24 pm 
By SeanCurtin

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
The Fantastic Four are Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Flo Steinberg, and someone else. I remember this from someplace the Assistant Editors month issue of What If?, maybe? Or What The!?!?
<<<

What If vol. 1 #11, "What If The Marvel Bullpen Became The Fantastic Four?" The 'someone else' is Sol Brodsky.


Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
President Steve Rogers and General Nick Fury, Furys in a space uniform. Was this an issue of What If..??
<<<

Possibly What If vol. 1 #14, "What If Sgt. Fury Fought World War II In Space?", although I don't recall Steve Rogers being President in that one. I suppose that Steve's office coupled with Fury's rank would place that scene quite a few years after the original What If story.

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Jul 05, 2008 1:13 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

*digs into my What If...?s to check*

Hey, look at that! Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy yet, Sean! 

At the very least, this would give us: 

MISTER FANTASTIC/STAN LEE
WI? 11
PARX: H 3

THING/JACK KIRBY
WI? 11
PARX: H 3

INVISIBLE GIRL/FLO STEINBERG
WI? 11
PARX: H 3

HUMAN TORCH/SOL BRODSKY
WI? 11
PARX: H 3

Maybe with a 'BULLPEN-VERSE' note or something. 

Since I was in that box anyway, I pulled out What If...? 9 and re-read that as well as this sweet thread. Seeing as how they pulled out the Bullpen Fantastic Four for this mini, AND the Brute/Reed Richards of Counter-Earth, it stands to reason that this group is the same group, so: 

3-D MAN II 
WI? 9
AVF 4
AVF 5
*PARX: H 3

GORILLA-MAN II
WI? 9
AVF 4
AVF 5
*PARX: H 3

HUMAN ROBOT II
WI? 9
AVF 4
AVF 5
*PARX: H 3

MARVEL BOY IV/ROBERT GRAYSON 
WI? 9 
AVF 4 
AVF 5 
*PARX: H 3

VENUS III 
WI? 9
AVF 4
AVF 5
*PARX: H 3

I also sat down and read What If...? 14. 


SeanCurtin wrote:
>>>
Possibly What If vol. 1 #14, "What If Sgt. Fury Fought World War II In Space?", although I don't recall Steve Rogers being President in that one. I suppose that Steve's office coupled with Fury's rank would place that scene quite a few years after the original What If story.
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As it turns out, Steve wasn't in it at all. I'm going to suggest that this is the same world, given the examples above. 

FURY, GENERAL NICK
WI? 14
PARX: H 3

DUGAN, DUM DUM
WI? 14
PARX: H 3

Anyone have any ideas on KIllraven & Deathlok?-Daron Jensen

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Jul 05, 2008 8:35 am 
By Somebody
Director

UH... the 50s Avengers' universe gets wiped out by Immortus in Avengers Forever #5. You really can't place an appearance of those versions later.

It may be intended as a sequel to WI? 9, but if so it's a divergent version from the one seen in AvF #4-5.

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Jul 05, 2008 5:22 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Did Immortus erase those events from 616 history, or from existence entirely? Either way, could we take this appearance as confirmation that they still exist SOMEWHERE in the multiverse? You're right though, that this appearance would have to follow Avengers Forever, in that only Nixon was replaced there and in Heralds the world had already been taken over. 

I had a chance to flip through some friend's Deathlok v2 comics, and some Deathlok appearances that I have in other comics. As we have it now: 

DEATHLOK/COLONEL LUTHER MANNING 
AT 25
AT 26
AT 27
AT 28
AT 30
AT 31
AT 32
AT 33
AT 34
AT 35
AT 36
M/TU 46
AT 36
M/SPT 33
M/TIO 26
M/TIO 27
M/TIO 28
M/TIO 34
CA 286
CA 287
CA 288
M/FAN 4/2
M/CP 62/4
DLOK 1
See Demolisher
DEMOLISHER II/COLONEL LUTHER MANNING 
(From Deathlok)
DLOK2 31
DLOK2 32
DLOK2 33
DLOK2 34
DD 335
DD 336
DD 337

CA 288 ends with Luther Manning, having met Captain America, in a new state of mind; he's feeling good about himself. 

I have no idea what happens in Marvel Fanfare #4. 

Marvel Comics Presents 62/4 is a prelude to the prestige format 4-issue mini that introduces Michael Collins. Cybertek is test-running a Deathlok, but he's name-checked as John Kelly. The issue ends with John Kelly being prepared for a brain transplant, which happens at the start of Deathlok #1. There is no appearance by Luther Manning in either of these comics and they need to be removed from his chronology. John Kelly DOES appear in Deathlok #1, but it's not in his chronology. Seeing as how it follows M/CP 62/4...

DEATHLOK II/COL. JOHN KELLY 
DLOK2 17-FB
DLOK2 14-FB
{M/CP 62/4}
*DLOK 1
DLOK2 17
DLOK2 18
See Siege

There's a mention somewhere(I forget which issue) in DLOK2 31-34 that Manning's computer crashed and he started calling himself just the Demolisher. It looks like these Paradise X appearances would be Manning's last appearances as Deathlok; something went wrong with his new body and his computer crashed in an unrevealed story. So...

DEATHLOK/COLONEL LUTHER MANNING 
*PARX: H 1-FB
{AT 25}
AT 26
...
CA 287
CA 288
M/FAN 4/2
**M/CP 62/4 < - delete, that's not him
**DLOK 1 < - delete, that's not him
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3
See Demolisher

From memory, my friend says that AT 25 starts with Luther Manning already as Deathlok, so it looks like the PARX: H 1-FB/AT 25 cover image is his 'origin sequence'.

As for Killraven, the only appearance of his that I have is Marvel Team-Up 45; it ends with Spider-Man returning to his own time and Killraven thinking about the past and possible futures. This seems like as good a place as any to drop Heralds in, so...

KILLRAVEN/JONATHAN RAVEN
...
AA2 33
AA2 34
M/TU 45
*PARX: H 1
*PARX: H 2
*PARX: H 3
AA2 35
AA2 36

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 05, 2008 5:41 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
Somebody wrote:
>>>
UH... the 50s Avengers' universe gets wiped out by Immortus in Avengers Forever #5. You really can't place an appearance of those versions later.

It may be intended as a sequel to WI? 9, but if so it's a divergent version from the one seen in AvF #4-5.
<<<

Did Immortus erase those events from 616 history, or from existence entirely? Either way, could we take this appearance as confirmation that they still exist SOMEWHERE in the multiverse? You're right though, that this appearance would have to follow Avengers Forever, in that only Nixon was replaced there and in Heralds the world had already been taken over. 
<<<

Ummm...
"the 50s Avengers' universe gets wiped out by Immortus in Avengers Forever #5. You really can't place an appearance of those versions later."
"You're right though, that this appearance would have to follow Avengers Forever"

I think a wire's been crossed in there somewhere.

Immortus didn't erase the events, he used the Forever Crystal to end the timeline. As in, he pruned it so that the end of the universe was on such-and-such a date, 1950-something. [futureGenis, Wasp and Rick (in the Sphinx) react as such - Wasp goes on about cold-blooded murder, Genis says alternate versions of them still exist, Rick just rants at them to get out before they get wiped out with the collapsing universe.] There is no later for events to occur.

What you might still have is a divergent timeline where the timeline branches BETWEEN WI? 9 and AVF 4, where (e.g.) instead of the infiltration approach Immortus exposes in AVF 4, the Skrulls abandon that before that point and just brute-force a win, and that could be the version shown in PARX:H. But you can't place the PARX:H appearance on a timeline with AVF 4.

[Agents of Atlas #1, of course, shows us the actual MU ("616" if you must) version of WI? 9, where M-11 was retrieved with a crane (and wasn't trying to kill an infinity of men in rooms, because that hadn't happened in the MU), Venus was a siren, Gorilla Man looks like an actual gorilla rather than a.. uh... whatever the original version was meant to look like, 3D-Man wasn't involved, there was no set of low-rent supervillains under the Claw's, etc]

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Jul 05, 2008 5:56 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Somebody wrote:
>>>
Immortus didn't erase the events, he used the Forever Crystal to end the timeline. As in, he pruned it so that the end of the universe was on such-and-such a date, 1950-something. [futureGenis, Wasp and Rick (in the Sphinx) react as such - Wasp goes on about cold-blooded murder, Genis says alternate versions of them still exist, Rick just rants at them to get out before they get wiped out with the collapsing universe.] There is no later for events to occur.
<<<

Ah-ha. Got it. 


Somebody wrote:
>>>
What you might still have is a divergent timeline where the timeline branches BETWEEN WI? 9 and AVF 4, where (e.g.) instead of the infiltration approach Immortus exposes in AVF 4, the Skrulls abandon that before that point and just brute-force a win, and that could be the version shown in PARX:H. But you can't place the PARX:H appearance on a timeline with AVF 4.
<<<

That I actually like, in that Uatu was watching that world in What If...? #9, but a different Watcher returned to that world in Heralds #3. It's a different Watcher because it's a different divergence. 

Hrmn. Would it be kosher to list it like this for all five: 

3-D MAN II 
WI? 9
AVF 4
AVF 5

3-D MAN III
WI? 9
PARX: H 3

But that's strange, as only one group of them appeared in WI? 9. I dunno.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 05, 2008 6:21 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
That I actually like, in that Uatu was watching that world in What If...? #9, but a different Watcher returned to that world in Heralds #3. It's a different Watcher because it's a different divergence.
<<<

That was the MU Uatu in WI? 9, not a native-to-50Avworld Uatu. As shown in a few non-WI? books (like Quasar), Uatu really DOES spend much of his time looking through other timelines. 'Cause the MU-Earth isn't interesting enough, even when he's watching Reed & Sue have sex.


Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
Hrmn. Would it be kosher to list it like this for all five: 
[...]
But that's strange, as only one group of them appeared in WI? 9. I dunno.
<<<

It'd go against precedent anyway - even where divergent versions have entries, they don't generally get pre-divergent issues in their own entry, nor a note for where they branched off.


Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
There's a mention somewhere(I forget which issue) in DLOK2 31-34 that Manning's computer crashed and he started calling himself just the Demolisher. It looks like these Paradise X appearances would be Manning's last appearances as Deathlok; something went wrong with his new body and his computer crashed in an unrevealed story.
<<<

Wasn't there an early Deathlok story involving a clone of him being created, and the attempt to transfer him into it led to... a clone of him with his memories, and the original just standing there, completely unchanged? Could that have happened again here? Because the point seems to be to get a body WITHOUT a computer/cyborg implants/etc.

Fantastic Four: 40th Wedding Anniversary Special

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Jul 05, 2008 6:46 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Somebody wrote:
>>>
Wasn't there an early Deathlok story involving a clone of him being created, and the attempt to transfer him into it led to... a clone of him with his memories, and the original just standing there, completely unchanged? Could that have happened again here?
<<<

It's possible, but I don't have any AT issues to check and my friend only has the DLOK2 issues. I have the DLOK prestige format mini. There is a chronology for a Deathlok Robot in M/TIO 53 & 54, but I don't have those either. Somebody wrote:
Because the point seems to be to get a body WITHOUT a computer/cyborg implants/etc.Right, that's what Luther wants/wanted. 

There was something about a second Luther Manning in the DLOK2 issues, but he was created by the villain of the story... through time travel or something. I don't think that's the plot you're thinking of, though. Maybe it's in M/TIO 53 & 54?

But yes, it's possible that the body X-51 provided ended up as a Luther Manning with Deathlok's memories, but Deathlok himself(original Manning) remained unaffected.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 05, 2008 7:17 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Found this, apparently from AT 35, which seems to be what I was thinking of:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s160/antmanvillains/DoubleDeathlok.jpg

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Jul 05, 2008 8:56 pm 
By SeanCurtin

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
There was something about a second Luther Manning in the DLOK2 issues, but he was created by the villain of the story... through time travel or something.
<<<

That was the modern-day Earth-616 Luther Manning, not the original future-timeline Manning.

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Jul 06, 2008 9:09 am 
By Peter Fabricius

Col_Fury wrote:
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CA 288 ends with Luther Manning, having met Captain America, in a new state of mind; he's feeling good about himself. 

I have no idea what happens in Marvel Fanfare #4. 
<<<

The Marvel Fanfare story has Deathlok being held prisoner by SHIELD, experiencing an dream scenario, that is being created by the scientists examining him.

That they are SHIELD personnel can be seen from insignia on their clothes, but is not stated in the story.

This would seem to indicate the it occurs after M/TIO 34, where SHIELD takes control of him, and before CA 286 where Brand / Roxxon controls him.Only three weeks on the job and already I live for seeing his forehead turn that shade of pink.

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Jul 06, 2008 3:57 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

SeanCurtin wrote:
>>>
That was the modern-day Earth-616 Luther Manning
<<<

That's right... And wasn't there a bit where Deathlok/Manning realized that this Manning wouldn't turn out to be him, for some reason, and that their meeting created a point of divergence? I'm going off memory here, and I read them quickly, so I'm probably wrong. 


Peter Fabricius wrote:
>>>
This would seem to indicate the story occurs after M/TIO 34, where SHIELD takes control of him, and before CA 286 where Brand / Roxxon controls him.
<<<

That makes sense to me: 

DEATHLOK/COLONEL LUTHER MANNING
...
M/TIO 34
**M/FAN 4/2 (move to here)
CA 286
CA 287
CA 288
**M/FAN 4/2 (move from here)
PARX: H 1
PARX: H 2
PARX: H 3
See Demolisher

Thanks guys, that's teamwork!

-Daron Jensen

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Thread 37

Subject: Runaways v2 #25-30

Jul 06, 2008 1:27 pm 
By JD

RUNAWAYS v2 #25-30
Writer : Joss Whedon
Penciller : Michael Ryan
Inker : Rick Ketcham, with Andrew Henessy (#29), Victor Olazaba, Roland Paris, and Craig Yeung (all of them #30)
Published from April 2007 to June 2008 (!!)

Cast :
- The Runaways : Nico Minoru/Sister Grimm, Molly Hayes/Bruiser/Princess Powerful, Chase Stein/Talkback, Victor Mancha/Victorious, Old Lace, Karolina Dean/Lucy in the Sky, Xavin, Leapfrog (+ Gert Yorkes/Arsenic in FB)
- The Street Arabs gang : Tristan, Lillie McGurty/the Spieler, Jacob/the Swell, Creeper, Megan Hoyden, Yellow Kid, Dead George Pelham
- The Sinners : Maneater, Morphine, Forget-Me-Not, Kid Twist, Ratdog, Goldbrick... headed by Dale & Stacey Yorkes
- The Upward Path : Nighstick, Daystick, Black Maria, the Difference Engine, Adjudicator, Witchbreaker
- Klara Prast and her husband, Mr Prast
- The Kingpin/Wilson Fisk
- The Punisher/Frank Castle


RUNAWAYS v2 #25 :
Characters : Nico Minoru, Molly Hayes, Chase Stein, Karolina Dean, Victor Mancha, Xavin, Old Lace, Leapfrog, Wilson Fisk, the Punisher, Tristan, Lillie McGurty.

pages 1-3 : New York, the Kingpin is briefed about the Runaways by one of his underlings and decides to agree meeting them. 
This scene has a lot of generic shots of the Runaways and the Pride to illustrate the exposition : there's no new information and they're mostly symbolic (the one where they meet the New Avengers did not happen that way in the original story).

pages 4-24 : New York, evening, the Kingpin meets the Runaways in a restaurant he owns and agrees to help them hide if they do him a favor. Later that night, they pull a heist for him, but are interrupted by the Punisher. Oh, and a couple of mysterious folk (an old woman and a guy with mechanical wings) are gloating in the shadows that they're pulling Fisk's strings.

Notes :
- RUN2 #9-12 happened "several months ago". Pusher Man (also from that storyline) has been killed BTS by the Kingpin's men for his gullibility (Fisk shows photos).
- The Punisher wears his classic "white gloves" costume (like in PWJ2).
- We're explicitly post-Civil War.
- No indication of how much time has passed since RUN2 #24 and RUNSAGA. This whole arc happens just before Secret Invasion, as we'll see later.
- Continuing a running joke, there's an (offscreen) big green woman in the restaurant, but it's NOT She-Hulk (well, that's what Fisk says - he could be lying to make the Runaways less confident).


RUNAWAYS v2 #26 :
Characters : Nico Minoru, Molly Hayes, Chase Stein, Karolina Dean, Victor Mancha, Xavin, Old Lace, Leapfrog, Wilson Fisk, the Punisher, Tristan, Lillie McGurty.

pages 1-21 : (continued from last issue) The winged guy attacks the Punisher and the Runaways escape. Chase notices the macguffin they're stealing was built by his and Gert's parents. As they go back to the flat Fisk loaned them, he shows up with a bunch of ninjas. The Runaways refuse to give him the macguffin, big fight, they flee aboard the Leapfrog. Chase plugs the macguffin into it, and the Leapfrog jumps in time...

pages 22-23 : The Runaways arrive in New York, in the morning... But in 1907.

Notes :
- Wilson Fisk is in New York on a "short visit" after Daredevil drove him out of the country (in DD2 #93). 
- During the ninja attack, the winged guy takes Victor aside and gives him a message (it's for Lillie, as we will see).


RUNAWAYS v2 #27 :
Characters : Nico Minoru, Molly Hayes, Chase Stein, Karolina Dean, Victor Mancha, Xavin, Old Lace, Leapfrog, Adjudicator, Klara Prast, Mr Prast, Tristan, Lillie McGurty, Jacob, Creeper, Megan Hoyden, Yellow Kid, Dead George Pelham, Maneater, Morphine, Forget-Me-Not, Kid Twist, Dale & Stacey Yorkes

(Continued from last issue) The macguffin is fried and the Leapfrog shows a video explaining how the Steins magic-proofed it, so the Runaways have to explore around in order to find a way to get back to their time. They save a bunch of kids in a burning sweatshop, and Jacob invites them to live with the Street Arabs gang (made of young super-powered people).
That night, Karolina follows a young girl from the sweatshop. Meanwhile, Jacob goes to the Sinners to give them notice of the Runaways' arrival. The Yorkes, the (time-traveling) heads of that gang, order that they should be recruited or killed.

- Flashback : Pages 4-6 : Victor Stein, Dale & Stacey Yorkes are finishing building the Leapfrog. Gert nearly stumbles on them.
Thanks to Gert's appearance and some of the dialogue, the placement is relatively easy : before RUN #17-FB (p4) for all involved. 

Notes :
- It's exactly 100 years before "current time", and it's summer (the dialogue mentions how hot it is).
- There are lots of super-powered people running around in 1907's New York, which helps the Runaways blend right in. They're nicknamed "Wonders".


RUNAWAYS v2 #28 :
Characters : Nico Minoru, Molly Hayes, Chase Stein, Karolina Dean, Victor Mancha, Xavin, Jacob, Lillie McGurty, Klara Prast, Mr Prast, Nighstick, Daystick, Black Maria, the Difference Engine, Adjudicator, Maneater, Dale & Stacey Yorkes, Tristan, Morphine, Forget-Me-Not, Kid Twist, the Witchbreaker

(The next day) The Runaways split up to follow different leads to go back to the present. Karolina & Molly go save young Karla from her abusive... husband. Victor and Lillie are looking for the discarded macguffin, flirt a bit, and break up an anti-union riot. Nico goes to the bank and is taken out by the Upward Path, who gives her to the Witchbreaker (actually one of her Minoru ancestors). Jacob leads Xavin and Chase to the Sinners, leading to a violent confrontation when the Yorkes recognize Chase (and him, them). Before fleeing in their own time-machine, Chase tells them Gert died.

Notes :
- Karla is 13 or so and married to some old guy. He beats her up and has her carrying out her "marital duties", of course. Urgh.
- To keep all those superhuman groups straight : the Upward Path are the nasty local version of the Avengers (they're even lead by an Iron Man stand-in !). The Sinners are the big-time criminals, manipulated by the Yorkes. And the Street Arabs are just young punks.
- The Yorkes are from the time when Gert was "fourteen". Gert was "fourteen or fifteen" in RUN #8, so I'd place this somewhere before the "one year before" Pride meeting in RUN #17-FB (4). Especially since she's stated to have "a few years to live" in #30.


RUNAWAYS v2 #29 :
Characters : Nico Minoru, Molly Hayes, Karolina Dean, Victor Mancha, Xavin, Jacob, Klara Prast, Creeper, Megan Hoyden, Dead George Pelham, the Difference Engine, Witchbreaker, Lillie McGurty, Professor Duck, Maneater, Dale & Stacey Yorkes, Nighstick, Daystick, Tristan, Morphine, Forget-Me-Not, Kid Twist, Black Maria, Adjudicator, Ratdog, Goldbrick

(Continued from last issue) Xavin, Karolina, Molly and Karla have headed back to the Street Arabs' hideout. Karla freaks out and runs away after seeing Xavin and Karolina kissing. Meanwhile, Nico is still being tortured by her ancestor, and Lillie is still hitting on Victor.
The Sinners attack the Street Arabs (killing Hoyden & Creeper), starting a big three-way superhuman gang war between them and the Upward Path. And there's also a big bomb coming from nowhere about to detonate.


RUNAWAYS v2 #30 :
Characters : Nico Minoru, Victor Mancha, Karolina Dean, Molly Haynes, Xavin, Old Lace, Leapfrog, Klara Prast, Tristan, Morphine, Kid Twist, Lillie McGurty, Adjudicator, Maneater, Dead George Pelham, Yellow Kid, Jacob, Daystick, Ratdog, Black Maria, Dale & Stacey Yorkes, Goldbrick-BTS, Forget-Me-Not-BTS, Nightstick-BTS, the Difference Engine-BTS, Kingpin, Punisher

Pages 1-16 : (Continued from last issue) Tristan sacrifices himself by flying the bomb very high (which explains his scars in the present). Nico arrives and interrupts the war by magic. Old Lace shows up to warn that the Yorkes have taken the Leapfrog, so the Runaways go there. Chase shows up back from the present just in time to save the day. Nico deals with the Yorkes. And Lillie refuses to go to the present with them even though she set the whole thing up (with Tristan's help) so that she could. They take Klara with them instead.

Pages 17-23 : Back in the present in the same night just after they left, the Runaways evade the Kingpin's missiles, and prepare to go back to the west coast.

Notes : 
- Yeah, the whole story was a stable time loop engeneered by Lizzie to give herself another chance to hook up with Victor. I hate time travel.
- Lots of other plot holes : it's never explained how Nico escaped from the Witchbreaker (or how she learned to fly for that matter). Also, the whole gang war is completely forgotten about.
- Nico's solution for dealing with the Yorkes ? A spell forcing them to still remember what they've learned that will happen (such as their daughter's death), but to be completely unable to do or say anything about it. That's... very creative.
- SECRET INVASION: RUNAWAYS/YOUNG AVENGERS #1 picks up the next day (the Runaways are staying in NY "just for a few hours [...] so Klara can say goodbye"), just as the Invasion starts. So the whole arc (which happens within 24 hours or so for the present part) has to happen just before SI.
- The Yorkes recognize the Leapfrog, so the past scenes have to happen after #27's flashback for them. 


Chronologies for the tricky characters :
GERTRUDE YORKES/ARSENIC 2
RUN2 27-FB (4-6) (fourteen, "several years to live", soon before an annual meeting of the Pride - presumably the one in RUN 17-FB)
RUN 18-FB (1) (photo in the afternoon of the following scene)
RUN 17-FB (4) (annual meeting of the Pride)
RUN 1 (fifteen, the next annual meeting of the Pride)
...

DALE & STACEY YORKES
RUN 13-FB (3-10)
RUN 13-FB (13-17)
RUN 13-FB (19-21) (18 years ago)
RUN2 27-FB (4-6)
RUN2 27
RUN2 28
RUN2 29
RUN2 30
RUN 18-FB (1) 
RUN 17-FB-BTS (4) 
RUN 1
...

LILLIE MCGURTY/THE SPIELER
RUN2 27
RUN2 28
RUN2 29
RUN2 30
RUN2 25
RUN2 26
RUN2 30

TRISTAN
RUN2 27
RUN2 28
RUN2 29
RUN2 30
RUN2 25
RUN2 26
RUN2 30

For all other characters, it's completely straightforward. The Runaways appear next in SECRET INVASION: RUNAWAYS/YOUNG AVENGERS #1.

Next up : the Jack Murdock mini, if I actually manage to find the time for the intricate research...

Last edited by JD on Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:07 am, edited 3 times in total. 

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Jul 06, 2008 5:11 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Thanks for the analysis, JD. 

Paul B.

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Jul 07, 2008 5:11 am 
By JD

I've made a few corrections for typos and accidental omissions. Apparently I was quite tired yesterday when I finished this...

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Jul 12, 2008 1:51 am 
By Fantomex

I think you're confusing Jacob with Eddie Gunman. Jacob the musician only makes a brief appearance in #27. It's Eddie Gunman, who is also known as the Swell, who shows the runaways around.

FX

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Thread 38

Subject: Secret Invasion #1 Directors Cut

Jul 24, 2008 6:51 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Secret Invasion #1 Directors Cut
Appearances: 
Dum Dum Dugan, a Skrull, a bunch of nameless S.H.I.E.L.D. agents

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg7
While the news reports that Captain America is dead, a bunch of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents blow off some steam in a bar. One guy is especially upset who states that the Civil War would have never happened if Nick Fury were still in charge of S.H.I.E.L.D., claiming he would have used the Registration Act as toilet paper. Another agent tells him to calm down; Dum Dums right over there and hes getting pissed. The first agent doesnt let up so Dum Dum leaves. Hes followed home by the Contessa who grills him on the location of Fury, but Dum Dum doesnt know. She sprouts Wolverine-like claws and stabs him in the gut, and while he bleeds out she turns into Dum Dum, revealing herself to be a Skrull. 

References: 
All in one night, full moon over New York. 

The news shows Captain America after hes been shot, but its repeated from Captain America 25, no new information. This takes place shortly after that issue, as the news states an investigation is pending, and everyone is reacting to it as fairly recent news. Not the night of, probably a day or three afterwards. Any appearances of Dum Dum that take place after this are actually the Skrull imposter. 

Secret Invasion #1 Directors Cut, second story

Reprint of Secret Invasion #1, no new information. 

Theres also Bendis script for the first issue, which reveals that Agent Brands first name is Abigail and I dont recall if thats been revealed anywhere else or not. Also included are the Greg Horn Skrull-themed Marvel Collector Stamp series, conceptual sketches and designs by Linil Yu, and various alternate covers.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 24, 2008 6:57 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Col_Fury wrote:
>>>
The news shows Captain America after hes been shot, but its repeated from Captain America 25, no new information. This takes place shortly after that issue, as the news states an investigation is pending, and everyone is reacting to it as fairly recent news. Not the night of, probably a day or three afterwards. Any appearances of Dum Dum that take place after this are actually the Skrull imposter. 
<<<

For my part, I read it as very much "the night of". Why else would the news still have the footage on a loop?

Is this you trying to reconcile the Contessa appearance in Cap #26 a day or three later?

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Jul 24, 2008 7:21 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Somebody wrote:
>>>
For my part, I read it as very much "the night of". Why else would the news still have the footage on a loop?
<<<

It very well could be the night of, I'm just saying there's wiggle room if things are too tight. As for the news, if it's something Big and Depressing they tend to repeat it a lot over here. 


Somebody wrote:
>>>
Is this you trying to reconcile the Contessa appearance in Cap #26 a day or three later?
<<<

Nope. Both the Contessa and Dum Dum are Skrulls in Cap 26. Dum Dum was replaced here, and while we haven't been shown when the Contessa was replaced yet, it was at least sometime before New Avengers 3, where she's shown to be a Skrull in the Savage Land in New Avengers 41-FB. 

The Skrull shown here is not the same Skrull as the Contessa-Imposter.(as it's the Dugan-Imposter) Also, the Skrull shown in Mighty Avengers 12 is not the same Skrull as the Contessa-Imposter.(as it was intended to be the Fury-Imposter) Unless of course, a future comic reveals otherwise.

-Daron Jensen

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Thread 39

Subject: Prowler 1

Jul 24, 2008 10:09 pm 
By cweed4

PROWLER 1 (OF 4)- 1994

Summary:
Two Prowlers each head out into the night to deliver their own brand of justice. One takes things a little too far an ends up drawing the attention of the boys in blue. With the TV new announcing 3 murders by the "Prowler" good ol' Hobie Brown heads out to investigate. When he arrives Spidey is already on the scene. The two of them can't check out the crime scene w/ all the cops around but they stumble across a mugging so its not a total loss. After webbing up the thugs each of them decides to call it a night. Later still, Hobie stumbles across his doppleganger at work, and he's standing over a dead body! The two tussle w/ Prowler learning that this imposter calls himself the Nightcreeper!

Continuity clues:
1. Prowler is working and going to school.
2. Silver Sable got Hobie the interview for his current position.
3. Spidey in his red+blues. (OK, not much help there.)

Analysis:
Considering the minor characters involved here and near complete lack of reference for Spidey I would base the placement for this issue completely on release date and look for a best fit. For the Prowler cast that is pretty simple. An opening for Spidey exists prior to PPTSS 213 which opens, conveniently, with him having just spent the night dealing w/ numerous muggings.

PROWLER/HOBIE BROWN 
ASM 365/4
PPTSS@ 12/3
PPTSS@ 13/4
WOSM@ 10/4
NT2 16
**PROWL 1**
ASMU 14
SENSM 17-FB
SENSM 16

BROWN, MINDY MCPHERSON 
ASM@ 25/3
ASM 365/4
**PROWL 1**
SENSM 16
SENSM 18

BROWN, ABE 
PM&IF 82
PPTSS@ 10/2
PPTSS@ 12/3
PPTSS@ 13/4
WOSM@ 10/4
**PROWL 1**

NIGHTCREEPER/ ERIC CROSS
**{PROWL 1}**

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
WOSM@ 10
ASM@ 28 (inserted based on Col_Fury analysis thread)
S-M 46
***PROWL 1***
PPTSS 213
PPTSS 214
MORBIUS 21


As a side note, a search for PROWL 1 comes up with a single entry listing for Vulture (Toomes). He is not in this book but he appears in issue 2 according to comicbookdb. (Sorry, I don't have the whole series.) Its possible he deserves a BTS credit. The Nightcreeper claims to have not killed the last guy at the end but saw someone do it and then "smashed out through the skylight" to get away. Could be Vultchy but would need confirmation from the rest of the series.

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Thread 40

Subject: Annihilation: Conquest

Aug 11, 2007 11:37 am 
By Somebody
Director

A thread to collect together the Conquest analyses. 

JLH's Annihilation analyses are here: http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2524

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Aug 11, 2007 11:38 am 
By Somebody
Director

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST PROLOGUE 
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA") 
Art: Mike Perkins 
"Conquest"/"Annihilation: Conquest Prologue" 

Cast: 
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL (*sigh*), last in Annihilation #6, next in AC: Quasar #1 
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS, last in Annihilation #6, next in AC: Quasar #1 
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL, last in Annihilation #6, next in AC: Star-Lord #1 
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER, last in Nova v4 #3, next in Nova v4 #4 
RONAN THE ACCUSER, last in Annihilation #6, next in AC: Wraith #1 

Other characters: 

[Unnamed scavengers]
OM-FAD (Priest of Pama)
TEN-COR (female Kree captain, assimilated)
SUPREME INTELLIGENCE-VO [as ghost/unidentified voice talking to Phyla, referenced in AC: Wraith #4 and confirmed online (see down page for link), next as VO in AC: Quasar #1, also shown as corpse in AC: Wraith #3]
various PHALANX
various Kree, pretty much all assimilated
DAYSTAR (Spaceknight, assimilated), new character?
Four other Spaceknights, unidentified, and there's been a general Spaceknight redesign it appears... (all assimilated, two apparently killed)
Cosmic Awareness flashforward of WRAITH, BUG, DEATHCRY, ROCKET RACCOON and what looks like one of ADAM WARLOCK's coccoons. Not counting these as chronologisable appearances.

Summary: 
pg1-10:2: 
"Lamentis Outworld, at the very edge of Kree space" 

A group of (unnamed) "scavengers" attack the Priests of Pama's temple on Lamentis, which is in the process of being rebuilt, aiming to take their supplies. Phyla-Vell, calling herself Quasar, and Moondragon proceed to beat them unconscious - although, in the process, Phyla hears an unknown voice call her name. They direct Om-Fad, one of the priests, to take their weapons and give them food and water. He objects on the basis that they're giving them what they attacked the temple for, but she tells him they're probably starving, so do it anyway. Phyla worries that she's not getting the hang of the q-bands, and that they're wasting their time helping to reconstruct a minor temple on an "outworld"; while Moondragon tells her it's needed. 

pg10:3-15: 
"Hala, the Kree homeworld, at the heart of Kree space" 

Peter Quill and Ten-Cor see about last-minute preparations for the Spaceknights visit to upgrade the Kree War-Net. As Quill heads up for the ceremony, he gets a call from Nova, and they talk for a bit, including about how important the upgrading is to Kree security. 

As he arrives on the roof, Daystar and four other Spaceknights (who never get names) are standing there. After greetings, they talk about the plan to upload the Galadorian upgrades into six ships and twenty-odd Sentries to run a threat simulation. Daystar notes that they'll have to access the War-Net itself, and Quill says permission has been given. It's done, and the Sentries take off. 

pg15-18: 
Lamentis 

Phyla's meditating in a chapel in the Temple, when the voice speaks to her again. Without identifying itself, it warns of "Disaster for the Kree... Conquest. The End of All Things" and tells her that there's a "deliverer" only she can find. 

Moondragon then comes in as she's yelling at the q-bands, and after snarking at her, tells her that they're "getting the most illogical reports over the sub-etheric" about "something going down on the heartworlds, Hala itself I think". Phyla starts going on about her warning, and Moondragon snarks some more. 

A Kree Sentry then bursts through the ceiling. 

pg19-23: 
Hala 

Ronan yells at Quill over the holo-link, and Quill doesn't have an answer. The Captain next to him says the "firing solutions make no sense", and then a starship blows up. 

Quill then starts yelling at Daystar about the Galadorian software being incompatable, and it takes two "There is no incompatability."s for it to click what's happened. Quill yells for Ronan to wipe it all, but Daystar grabs his comm and crushes it along with his hand as tendrils some from his eye-slot, and his speech balloon style changes as he says "we must all join together". Quill shoots him in the face with a gun in his other hand, and yells to "target the damn Spaceknights!" 

In the ensuing fight, Quill is knocked flat on his back - and sees the sky to be full of Sentries, blasting downward. 

pg24-26: 
Lamentis 

Phyla & Moondragon manage to destroy the Sentry, and realise it was aimed at them. The voice then gives Phyla a hurry-up, but Moondragon can't hear it, "even with [her] mind" - although she's starting to believe Phyla. 

pg27-30: 
Hala 

Quill's self-loathing takes over as he listens to the reports of the destruction being wrought by the Sentries on a dead Kree soldier's comm, reflecting that because of him, their program has taken over every part of the Kree infrastructure. 

The Sentries then mass over the city's main power generator, merging into "some kind of tower", which flashes white... 

pg31: 
Energy wave blasts out from the Babel Spire on Hala, out past the "outworlds" and Phyla & Moondragon. [Synchronous with NOVA4 #4 pg2] 

pg32-35: 
Lamentis-->Barrier 

Phyla chases after the wave, and finds a Kree lightship cut in half by the formation of a massive barrier around the Kree Empire, caused by the whole of Kree space being "shifted out of phase with the rest of the galaxy" 

The voice then flares up again, triggering a Cosmic Awareness flash in her, showing her Bug, Deathcry and Rocket Raccoon (from the Star-Lord mini), Wraith, and what looks like one of Adam Warlock's coccoons. It tells her to "Find him. He is still within the Empire. Find the Deliverer. Find the Redeemer. Find HIM." She promises to do so. 

pg36-43: 
Hala: 

Quill puts down one of the Spaceknights by repeatedly shooting it with a "man-portable Kree particle-weapon". 

Ten-Cor and four other soldiers then find him. He tells them they're going to try and pull the War-Net's data core. However, when he turns round again, they're showing the same sort of eye infection as the Spaceknights, and also tell him they must "all join together". He says he's never been much of a joiner, and they blast him through the window. 

There's then an announcement, saying that the Kree should not fear, or panic. The Kree Empire is "ours" now and forver, and they will protect them, and bring them order. 

"The Phalanx have completed their Conquest." 

Continuity notes: 
Nova v4 #4 overlaps this issue, with Rich being hit by the forcefield energy wave. The character must appear [in his holo-link talk with Quill] in-transit via. Stargate between NOVA4 3 and 4. No other characters here have appeared since Annihilation #6 at the latest, to my knowledge. 

This is a new group of Phalanx - obviously, since the Earth group were mostly wiped out in Phalanx Covenent, and the Sh'iar group were eaten by the Technarch Magus in the M-Tech Warlock series. Their T-O infections bear more of a resemblance to Cable's metalesque problem than the previous groups who were styled after Bill Sienkiewicz's Technarch designs, although taking the six-eyed cue from the Sh'iar group. 

Goofs: 
Every single one of the Kree soldiers is wearing some version of the green Captain's uniforms. You'd think there'd be some variation of rank... 

Calendar notes: 
All takes place in one day. 
No "Conquest Day Plus" captioning, either here or in the individual minis, nor any specific "Annihilation Day Plus" note. 

Timeframe: 
Immediately after NOVA4 3/during NOVA4 4. No other specific reference. 

Other stuff: 
Solicit-style blurbs for Nova, AC:Quasar, AC:Star-Lord, AC:Wraith & Conquest-proper, plus covers and a checklist. 

Other notes: 
Recap page is included in page numbering, because (uniquely from the A:C books, it seems) it's also the first panel of the story. 

I really enjoyed this, mostly because I started guessing it was the Phalanx as soon as the Spaceknights' speech balloons changed, and was certain when they started forming a Babel Spire .

Last edited by Somebody on Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:54 am, edited 1 time in total. 

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Aug 14, 2007 10:02 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Thanks for the analysis, Somebody. 

I wonder if you might be able to provide a page/panel breakdown of how NOVA4 4 and this issue intertwine, either now or perhaps when your analysis of NOVA4 4-7 is done.

Paul B.

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Aug 14, 2007 11:40 pm 
By Somebody
Director

That's it. Nova gets hit on Nova #4 pg2:2 while approaching Hala by the same barrier-forming energy wave which is let off from Hala on Prologue pg31, and it briefly knocks the WorldMind offline. 

No other intertwining - he leaves Earth at the end of NOVA4 #3 having had no contact off-planet during his stay there, links to Quill between NOVA4 issues while in Stargate transit, then finally arrives in the Hala system at the opening of #4 to a bunch of Sentries going wild and gets hit by an energy wave that leaves him with a "Worldmind gestalt is rebooting" message for a minute or two.

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Oct 14, 2007 9:41 pm 
By Somebody
Director

NOVA v4 #4 
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA") 
Art: Sean Chen/Scott Hanna and Brian Denham 
"Alone" 

Cast: 
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (last in Annihilation: Conquest Prologue) 
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (last in Nova v4 #3) 
GAMORA [Phalanx Select] (last in Annihilation #6, "Selected") 
NOVA 0001/STELLAR CAPTAIN KO-REL [Kree] (first appearance) 

Other characters: 

Chief Yan [Kree]
"DIMPLES" [Kree]
"FLAGPOLE" [Kree]
Various other Kree
Three PHALANX scientists

Summary:
pg1-4
Hala System

Rich stargates into the Hala system, and 2.6 seconds later, a Kree Sentry tries to kill him. A "radiation pulse of astonishing magnitude" then comes from Hala, and briefly knocks the Worldmind offline.

When the WM's rebooted, it explains that "all [communication] links outside the Kree Empire have just been suspended".

A bunch more Kree Sentries then attack them, and the WM says something's trying to hack it. As soon as it realises what it is, he orders Rich out of the sector immediately - the Sentries have been "violated by the Phalanx".

pg5-7
Phalanx nerve centre (or something like that, it's not captioned - the Babel Spire?)

Meanwhile, several Phalanx Scientists work on identifying Rich, and as they do, send eight more Sentries at him. They don't last long, and "Select Gamora" comes in to tell them where they're going wrong - she is, of course, infected, and asks for a hundred Sentries to take on Rich with.

pg8-9
Hala System

Worldmind exposits on the Phalanx for Rich's benefit, and works out fairly accurately what happened in the Prologue. It wants Richard to get out and stay away before he's "contaminated". Rich refuses, but as the WM's telling him what to do "contrary to [its'] express recommendations", the Sentries Gamora asked for start to teleport in.

pg10-11
Phalanx nerve centre

Gamora starts to pin down Rich with the Sentries, after getting frustrated with the "slow" Phalanx Scientists. The Scientists work out that Rich hasn't succumbed to the transmode virus because an "artificial intellect gestalt" is inhibiting it.

Gamora regrets having to kill Rich - she'd rather make him a "Select".

pg12
Hala System

Rich is indeed pinned down and injured. Being crushed by several Sentries, he opens a Stargate, destroying multiple Sentries and blowing others away.

pg13
Phalanx nerve centre

Gamora fills the Phalanx in on what Rich did, and is ordered to "pursue and apprehend him".

pg14-15
Stargate, in-transit

Rich has broken ribs and various other injuries (and a torn suit).

Trying to exit Kree Space, they see the barrier too late, and run out of space to slow down, hitting it at near-full-tilt...

pg16-22
"Drez-Lar, Kree Outworld"

Drez-Lar is an ex-Kree Colony world that "perished in the Annihilation War". Most were evacuated, but the Light Cruiser Spirit of Supremor was shot down while acting as part of a rearguard. 102 Kree Soldiers out of the 2000 on board survived. They're still alive.

Stellar Captain Ko-Rel, a Battlefield Medic, was the highest-ranking survivor, and sends a message every day asking for rescue even though the comlink's probably broken, wanting to get back and see her son, Zam.

Something crash-lands some distance away, and she's called by "Chief Yan" [named in #5] , and they and a few others put on anti-radiation suits to go out and look for it.

Of course, the thing that hit was Nova, who is still alive despite looking very, very dead. He's mindlinked with her (Rich's box style rather than the Worldmind's), and, after being shocked by the mindlink, a huge energy pulse jumps from him to her, and Ko-Rel finds herself a Nova Centurion...

Continuity notes:
The stargate Nova exits at the start of the issue is apparently the one he entered at the end of #3.

Gamora hasn't appeared between Annihilation and this issue, to my knowledge.

Goofs: 
Denham draws the diagonal points on Nova's helmet a lot shorter than Chen throughout this arc.

Not sure if it's a goof or not, but Ko-Rel's hair suddenly gets lighter (going from a blue darker than her skin to silver-white) on the last page, when she's revealed in-costume. Either way, it stays silver-white from here on in.

Calendar notes: 
The Kree - the surviving crew of the Spirit of Supremor - have been on Drez-Lar for "a year", having been brought down while mounting a rearguard action at the end of an evacuation attempt on the planet during the Annihilation War.

It took Nova "twelve minutes to reach the Kree heartworlds" by Stargate, so if - as it looks - it's the same Stargate, then we're very definitely still on the same day as NOVA4 #3.

As already discussed, this issue overlaps the Prologue, with Rich being hit by the Kree bubble-forming energy wave as he approaches Hala on pg3.

If a gap becomes necessary in #4-6, the only place to put it is between pg15 & 16 of this issue, after Rich hits the barrier and before he crash-lands on Drez-Lar - although putting a significant gap in there may well make the Phalanx look relatively incompetent. See calendar notes for #6. Apart from that, the three issues take place over about three hours.

Timeframe:
pg1-15: Space, from Hala System to barrier via Stargate as Gamora observes. Twelve minutes after the end of NOVA4 #3, pg2 is synchronous with Annihilation: Conquest - Prologue pg31, lasts less than half an hour or so.
pg16-22: Drez-Lar, 10-30 mins total. Probably shortly after pg1-15.
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NOVA v4 #5
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Sean Chen/Scott Hanna and Brian Denham
"Together"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER [Selected/assimilated]
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (-VO?)
GAMORA [Phalanx Select]
NOVA 0001/STELLAR CAPTAIN KO-REL [Kree]

Other characters:

Chief Yan [Kree] (dies)
"DIMPLES" [Kree] (dies)
"FLAGPOLE" [Kree] (dies)
"ESS" [Kree] (assimilated)
Various other Kree (most die)
LIGHTSTORM (Spaceknight/Phalanx Select, dies)
various PHALANX hunters (some die)

Summary:
Whole issue takes place on "Drez-Lar, evacuated Kree Fringe World"

pg1-3
(Drez-Lar exterior)

Two groups of Phalanx Hunters teleport to the planet, one led by Gamora, one led by Lightstorm, a [Selected] Spaceknight. Lightstorm's group is rapidly wiped out by something very fast moving.

pg4-6
(planet surface --> Spirit of Supremor gathering area)

The Worldmind congratulates Ko-Rel, who found it all too fast to follow, and introduced itself, and dubs her Nova 0001. WM explains the basic situation - it's an "emergency deputation", and she's directed to protect "the Nova Prime" (Rich) and the WM (which is still in Rich's head, and speaking to Ko telepathically) from the Phalanx. Once it starts using her name and describing her life, and mentioning her son, she starts finding it invasive.

Addressing her crew, she sees everybody knows, and asks if anyone's "got a problem with the new and farked-up situation [she] find[s] [her]self in". "Dimples", her second-in-command, defuses her with a crack about how tight the Nova uniform is. Ko asks where the Chief is, and is directed towards Medical.

pg7-9
(SoS Central Medical)

As Ko looks at him with Chief Yan and "Flagpole", Rich is looking a lot better - still a mess, but his uniform's back, and he's more emaciated than burned - he's "visibly healing". Exactly how bad a state he was in though is spelt out by Flagpole - "Multiple skeletal fractures, organ failure [&] fifth-degree burns over 95% of his body".

Worldmind then has a word with Ko-Rel to warn her that the Phalanx are probably closing in, and she directs Flagpole - who recognises the name - to set up a full, condition red, defence deployment. And that the WM caught him "staring at [her] butt".

Once she and the Chief alone, Ko explains the situation with the Phalanx to "Yan" - who's heard of, and possibly encountered, them before - as the Worldmind explained it to her, and gets frustrated that she can't just go and fight Phalanx/save her son, Zam (a hologram of whom she apparently carries at all times).

pg10:
(planet surface)

"Ess", one of the Kree sent out to be part of the defence perimeter, is attacked and assimilated by Phalanx

pg11
(SoS corridor)

Phalanx Hunters enter the ship, and are fired upon by a group of Kree led by Dimples, who gets beheaded by a PH just after she reports to Ko-Rel

pg12-15:4
(SoS, to planet surface)

Lots of Kree get cut down by more Phalanx Hunters. Ko-Rel gets upset, and annoyed at the Worldmind for repeating that "the Nova Prime" is what she's to focus on [a brief cutaway to Rich shows that he's now conscious and mostly healed, but still too weak to get up].

Ko then flies out, trying to lead the Phalanx away against the Worldmind's "specific instructions". Seemingly, they all teleport after her, leaving the surviving Kree to tend to their wounded.

pg15:5-22
(Spirit of Supremor)

...however, Gamora is still on the ship, unnoticed by the Kree's scans. She kills off five uniformed Kree in quick succession, then checks up on the Hunters - a quick cutaway shows them all fighting Ko-Rel, and Gamora tells them to "damage her if you can. Keep her busy, at least. Make her believe her charade has worked" before cutting the connection.

Chief Yan then goes by, inquiring after "Jul" and "Tiptoe", before saying her's going to check on Rich. Before he can, he's stabbed in the back by Gamora - who then enters the medibay and transmodes Rich with a kiss, which heals his remaining wounds, and he stands up, a Select, feeling "perfect".

Continuity notes:
"Lightstorm" is, as far as I can tell, on his first (and last) appearance this issue. He doesn't look like any of the five Spaceknights from the Prologue, nor is he - either visually or, per JLH's list from the Annihilation analysis thread, by name - one of the SKs to appear in Ann #5. He can be seen here - http://www.popcultureshock.com/nova-5-preview/42235/4/ - if anyone knows different.

Oh, and I'm not sure how to list the Worldmind's appearances. In NOVA4 #4 & 7 (along with Ann:Nova #1 & 2, at least), it "appears" as a hologram of sorts (usually that only Rich can see). In NOVA4 #2, it briefly uses Rich's body while he's asleep. Obviously, full appearances for these.

But, at other times, it's speech-captions only in the DnA issues, and Giffen didn't bother with it at all in Annihilation (except for one brief mention in Ann #2). Oh, and as this issue clarifies, it specifically resides at present "in the cerebrum of the Nova Prime" (i.e, the main bit of Rich's brain) rather than more generally distributed around his body, so technically it won't appear on-panel unless Rich gets his head literally cracked open.

I'd say full appearances when it's seen as a hologram (or using Rich's body), -VO for caption-only apps, -BTS for that Annihilation #2 bit and nothing if it's not seen or heard even when Rich is on-panel (unlike, say, the situation with the Uni-Power, it's not the same thing as the Nova Force. SuperNova carried, basically, the whole force without the Worldmind before, after all.). But I'd like some clarification here...

No direct links to other Conquest minis.

Goofs:
Running complaint about how the standard Kree uniforms are all green [which should be reserved for Captains]...

Calendar notes: 
Continues more or less directly out of #4 (there's been enough time to move Rich to the medibay and for the news about Ko-Rel to spread, but neither would take long at all), and all within an hour or two, which means we're probably still well within 24 hours of Rich departing Earth in #3 (Drax thing in #6 notwithstanding...).

Timeframe:
pg1-22. Drez-Lar, over an hour or so, continuing shortly after the end of #4.

Other stuff:
DnA seem to have loosely based the naming/ranking of the Kree on the [New] Battlestar Galactica as much as anything else - it's a mix of ranks, nicknames/codenames, and only a very few are wearing [versions of] the standard Kree uniform.
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NOVA v4 #6
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Sean Chen/Scott Hanna and Brian Denham
"Inside"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER [Phalanx Select]
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (-VO?)
GAMORA [Phalanx Select]
NOVA 0001/STELLAR CAPTAIN KO-REL (dies)
DRAX THE DESTROYER (last in Annihilation #6)

Other characters:

Chief Yan [Kree] (corpse only)
various Kree corpses
various PHALANX hunters (die)

Summary:
pg1-6
"Kree Fringe World Drez-Lar"

Ko-Rel suddenly notices that the Worldmind's gone quiet, even though she's destroyed all the Phalanx. She then notices the burning Spirit of Supremor, and clicks what's happened.

She makes very short work of the three Phalanx Hunters Gamora left behind to "exterminate all survivors", knocking the last one about a mile, and runs inside to see all the corpses. She talks to the hologram of her son for a minute, angry and embarrassed, when the Worldmind cuts in, "faint" and "far away". It tells her about "the Nova Prime"'s Selection, and that it won't last long before it's also taken by the Phalanx. It asks Ko to kill it - and Rich - before that happens, and opens a Stargate to Nil-Rast, one of the "inner Kree worlds" where Rich is, for her. ETA 38 minutes.

pg7-11:1
"Kree planetoid Nil-Rast"

Select-Rich toys with Drax for a bit, while selling the Selection plan, while Gamora looks on, and refers to it as "a test of [his] Selecthood". Eventually, Drax stays down. Gamora comments how he makes it seem easy.

They "deliver Drax for Selection".

pg11:2-22
"Kree Geothermal Refinery Faciloid"
(technically, the caption's on 11:1, but there they're looking at the place from a distance, while they're in it as of :2 and have dropped Drax off)

They watch Drax being taken away by a couple of Phalanx (probably Hunters, possibly Scientists), and Select-Rich is slightly bothered by how "normal" he feels. [BTW, yes, there's a point to saying "Select-Rich" if I'm going to be consistent for #7 ]

Gamora explains that the Phalanx "has moved beyond its regimented mindset" and that it has been taught that, in order to succeed, it must value individuality and free will". She dodges a question about who "taught" them, and says that they're "coded to serve the needs of the Phalanx Collective", "but independent enough to act on [their] own instincts".

Select-Rich then hears a stargate open just as he starts kissing at her neck, and is promptly knocked from Gamora's arms by Ko-Rel, who grabs him without slowing down. She asks the Worldmind what to do, and is told that "Nova Prime" is about to... and is cut off as Select-Rich knocks Ko away with an omnidirectional blast.

Select-Rich then asks the Worldmind to track Ko, and is told in no uncertain terms that he's getting no help from it as long as it keeps the transmode virus at bay.

WM then guides Ko-Rel to lead Select-Rich a merry chase, with Gamora following behind as fast as she can (teleporting?). It's at best a stalemate for Ko - she gets a couple of solid blasts in, but can't hurt the vastly more powerful Select-Rich, while he can't get a lock on her thanks to the Worldmind's help (at one point, the increasingly frustrated Select-Rich rants at her and the WM, and gets an "I'm not listening to you, Richard" in return from the WM).

Eventually, the Worldmind directs Ko down toward the central thermal processing core. While a blast from Select-Rich grazes her head, they manage to get him to run into a magma pipe, downing him temporarily. WM says he's vulnerable, and begs her to finish him - and it - off while he's down, but she can't do it, saying she's not a murderer. And is immediately knifed in the back by Gamora ("I am") as she looks away.

Select-Rich taunts her as he picks himself up just as Ko collapses, catching her. She says "Don't... you've got to... This isn't you", and his eyes momentarily clear as a result as she expires with a last word, "Zam...".

Afterward, he confirms she's dead, and wonders what her hologram-projector is as it falls & activates, before stepping on it when Gamora says it's nothing of any significance.

They go to "hit the showers", leaving her corpse where it is.

Continuity notes:
Again, Drax's first appearance since Annihilation-proper as far as I'm aware.

No direct links to other Conquest minis.

Goofs: 
The shift to Chen on p13 sees the ledge Gamora & Rich are on change a lot, in both surroundings, shape and in that the railing Rich leaned on at the top of p11 vanished. Plus, the star on Rich's back is missing after "Stellar Captain Kree Shlag" slams into him.

As she's stabbed in the back, Ko spits out a spray of (blue-purple) blood, which is dribbling down her face in the next panel (head-on), then vanishes in the last panel as she dies (side-on), then is back as Select-Rich says her heart has stopped (head-on_, then is gone again on the last page focus on her corpse (again, side-on).

Calendar notes: 
Continues more or less directly out of #5, give or take ten minutes or so. Page 12 should be 38 minutes after page 6, and the concluding fight is five-ten minutes, so by the end of the issue it's at most an hour since the end of #5 and, again, seemingly still within 24 hours of the end of #3.

Oddly, however, Gamora implies Drax has been evading the Phalanx for longer than that ("He's been evading us since the Conquest. We've tracked him from planet to planet"). It's not a direct contradiction, but considering the tie between #4 pg2 and AC:Prologue pg31, unless Rich was falling for days between hitting the bubble and landing on Drez-Lar without the Phalanx finding him, they've been looking for Drax since before Hala was taken (logical, since they apparently got Gamora herself earlier than that) and Gamora's being economical with the truth, or Gamora's being economical with the truth full-stop, and this is the first time they've found Drax.

Timeframe:
pg1-6. Drez-Lar, shortly after the end of #5, ten-fifteen minutes.
pg7-11. Nil-Rast. May overlap pg1-6.
pg12. Nil-Rast. 38 minutes after pg6, continues directly from pg11.
pg13-22. Nil-Rast, 10-15 minutes.
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NOVA v4 #7
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Sean Chen/Scott Hanna and Brian Denham
"Out"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER [Phalanx Select, stops being so when Transmode Virus is put into remission]
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (-VO?)
GAMORA [Phalanx Select]
NOVA 0001/STELLAR CAPTAIN KO-REL (Worldmind memory engram of her only - does this count? She gets a line...)
DRAX THE DESTROYER [Phalanx Select]

Other characters:

ULTRON (you could argue he's BTS the whole way, but DnA confirmed that the eyes looking down on Select Nova were Ultron's, so he's on-panel here)
various PHALANX Scientists
various PHALANX Hunters
various unidentified PHALANX Select
various Kree, Phalanx-assimilated
various Kree Sentries, Phalanx-assimilated
Engrams of lots of dead Novas. Probably only Ko-Rel is pre-existing, but...


Summary: 
pg1-5 
(Hala, into Babel Spire) 

Select-Rich thinks how great it is to be a Select, as he flies towards the Babel Spire along with several Hunters, a Kree Sentry and what looks like a generic Spaceknight - it *may* be Daystar, from the Prologue, but if so it's miscoloured in plain silver and has several details wrong - and meeting up with Gamora, who's missed him even though "it's only been five hours... [he] was rounding up terrorists on Han-Lar". 

They're summoned to a briefing and missing assignment - "many, many terrorists [are] still at large, trying to resists" and they need to "help them understand." 

While all this is happening, however, he's hearing a voice going "screaming" and "Why aren't you screaming?", and getting flashbacks to Ko-Rel dying in his arms, saying "Don't... you've got to... This isn't you" [one of these, (3:2), is an "alternate angle" version of NOVA4 6 (20:3), looking over Select-Rich's shoulder rather than side-on, the others are straight reproductions of #6 (20:3) and - in the next segment - (20:5), with fade-to-white edges to show that they're FBs] 

He begins to be disturbed by this, and asks Gamora, who writes it off as the standard background voices-from-the-Collective, but he starts getting a headache from it, then zones out... 

pg6-11 
(In Rich's Head) 

In his head, he's confronted by a version of himself in his original costume - the "tiny fragment of [his] psyche that the Worldmind has managed to protect from the transmode infection." 

Select-Rich is confused, then aggressive, then slips back into sales-pitch mode, when Young-Rich asks why he isn't screaming, why he's accepting what's happening. When Select-Rich says he's accepted Selection and there's no need to fight it, Young-Rich says he IS fighting it, and shows a bunch of Novas fighting Phalanx silhouettes, based on "Worldmind's records of all the lost centurions". But it's all symbolic, and has been happening since he was infected. 

When Select-Rich notices Ko-Rel among them, he remembers her dying again, and Young-Rich tells him she'll "be on [his] conscience a long time", but that it was her death that gave him a chance to break free - the Worldmind had almost lost, but her portion of the Nova Force was just enough of a boost to turn the tide. Select-Rich starts to panic as he remembers her last word, and Young-Rich says that they can't cure the transmode virus, but they can force it into remission. And by "them" they mean "him". 

Young-Rich starts pushing the "Why aren't you screaming" again, as Select-Rich starts to panic more and more, and finally says "I am" the third time, and starts incinerating the Phalanx representations. The last thing he sees before snapping back to reality is Ko-Rel asking him to save her son. 

pg12-14:2 
(Hala, Babel Spire into space) 

Only a moment's passed in real life, as Gamora asks Rich to say something - then he looks up at her, his eyes clear. She mutters that it's "simply not possible", then he blasts her and a Phalanx Scientist into opposite walls. 

Rich starts asking the Worldmind for help, and it finally answers him again - he's got Cable Syndrome, with 83% of the Nova Force tied up just keeping the T-O virus under control. Rich says that means he's no match for even one Sentry, and Worldmind says, yup, they need to get outta dodge. When Rich points out what happened last time they tried that, the Worldmind says that, since he's been a Select, they now know how the "Force Shell" actually works, and opens a stargate. 

pg14:3-15 
(Hala, Babel Spire) 

Back in the Spire, a Phalanx Scientist tells Gamora they didn't stop Rich in time, and she tells them to reprocess themselves - but track his course first. The Scientist says he's headed for a neutron star, close to the Barrier. This rings a bell with her, and says she wants to teleport there to "meet him" and get her some support. A now-Select Drax - who even though he loves being Phalanx, hates Rich for making him so (?!) - volunteers. 

pg16-20 
(Orbit of Ban-Lar 4.77 [Neutron Star], into star) 

Meanwhile, Rich has arrived at the star in question, and has the Worldmind's plan, based on the data Rich "absorbed as a Select" explained to him - to use its' immense gravity to create a wormhole to get outside. Rich baulks. 

Worldmind: "Who always gives you proper advice?" 
Rich: "You do, but--" 
WM: "Do you want me to explain it to you? The explanation will involve phrases such as neutron-degenerate matter and high-energy kaons" 

This gets Rich angry, and the WM apologises, saying its' temper's frayed from holding back the virus - but they don't have any other options. 

Gamora and Drax then teleport in, shooting at him. Rich starts to fight them, but the WM points out that this means he "will die... quickly, and for nothing." Rich finally gives in, and after some "brief" pain, is shot through the wormhole... 

pg21 
(Very, Very Far Away....) 

...into a distant part of the universe. Uncharted territories, looking for a way back to warn others. 

pg22 
("Epilogue: Two Light-Years Away...") 

And, Selects Gamora and Drax were also dragged through the wormhole, and dropped "nearby" (relative term)... 

Continuity notes: 
Again, the (unnamed) Spaceknight in (2:2) appears to be new to me, but here's the page for any SK experts to check. 

Goofs: 
Well, I'd say the blue Pikachu corpsman counts as a "goof". 

Other than that, just general inconsistencies between the Chen & Denham pages. 

Calendar notes: 
It's been a "few days" (according to the Worldmind, that model of precision ), since Rich was Selected. 

The issue itself lasts less than an hour or so, provided the wormhole didn't shunt Rich in time (of which there's no indication). 

Timeframe: 
pg1-15. Hala, Babel Spire. A "few days" after #6, Nova returns "five hours" after departing to deal with an anti-Phalanx resistance cell. Depending on whether the scene in Nova's head is real time or accelerated, between fifteen and thirty minutes. 
pg16-20. Orbit of Ban-Lar 4.77. Minutes after pg15, about ten minutes. 
pg21-22. Uncharted territories. Immediately after pg21 for the characters, likely to be immediately after absolute. 

Other stuff: 
Despite the ending and the fact that this is the last labelled Conquest tie-in for the book, according to DnA in a Wizard interview Nova will be appearing in Conquest.

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Oct 20, 2007 9:36 am 
By lkseitz

Somebody wrote:
>>>
NOVA v4 #5
Continuity notes:
"Lightstorm" is, as far as I can tell, on his first (and last) appearance this issue. He doesn't look like any of the five Spaceknights from the Prologue, nor is he - either visually or, per JLH's list from the Annihilation analysis thread, by name - one of the SKs to appear in Ann #5.
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Lightstorm is not one of the Spaceknights in ANNIHILATION #5. Those were all from the SPACEKNIGHTS LS, IIRC, and he wasn't in it. (At least not named.)


Somebody wrote:
>>>
NOVA v4 #7
Continuity notes:
Again, the (unnamed) Spaceknight in (2:2) appears to be new to me, but here's the page for any SK experts to check.
<<<

Sad to say, but I'm not really an expert on the new Spaceknights -- or at least not the obscure ones -- but I think he's new, too.

Lee K. Seitz 
Slowly adding insignificant characters to the MCP

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Oct 26, 2007 11:51 am 
By Somebody
Director

According to the AC:Wraith writer - http://forums.comicbookresources.com/sh ... ost5703159 - that's meant to be the Supreme Intelligence's ghost talking to Phyla in the Prologue. I've edited the Prologue character listing to reflect that. 

[PS: AC:Wraith = crap. Just for the record]

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Dec 01, 2007 10:24 pm 
By Somebody
Director

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #1 
Writer: Keith Giffen 
Art: Timothy Green II 

Opening Flashback (pg1-3) 

Cast: 
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL [HUMAN] 
SHIP/"CARYTH HAYLAN" [former star, not to be confused with X-Factor's Ship who became Professor & Prosh] 
FALLEN ONE 
[Big monkey/tree things] 

Summary: 

Peter Quill reflects on stuff that happened before - a generic fight, then the first battle with the Fallen One that "D'Ast near got [him] killed", then the second one, where he and Ship devastated a mining colony on the moon of Avaleen-4, killing 350,000, to generate "life energy" to prevent Fallen One from destroying the planet. 

With Ship apparently killed in the process, he handed both himself and Fallen One over to the Nova Corps, "killed" his Star-Lord ID and was remanded to the Kyln, where he started getting cybernetic implants as an odd way of relieving the guilt. 

Continuity notes: 
pg1-FB 

Not a reference to anything seen previously. It's a new version of his original helmet, dumped for a long time - as well as, oddly enough, apparently "conventional firearms", which he never used before (even in his origin story, when he stole weapons on the way to becoming SL, he was using lasers/sci-fi guns) - so presumably last-appearance before... 

pg2-3-FB 

The battle referred to in Giffen's work on Peter Quill since he picked him up in Thanos. For the MCP, last stop before Thanos #8. For the Calendar, where and when Star-Lord's backstory allows, but at least it can be said that this is definitely in the past  

Of course, the Handbook's version of events had Ship being lost and him getting cybernetics before the Fallen One fight, but that's clearly out the window. 

Calendar notes: 

Substantially in the past. I'd be tempted to place before Fantastic Four #1 on a calendar, but perhaps that Thanos arc gave more clues. 

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Main story (pg1-3 (narration only), pg4-22) 

Cast: 
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL [HUMAN] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Prologue) 
BUG [KALIKLAK], aka "LOVERBUG" (the Micronaut, last in Captain Marvel v3 #16) 
DEATHCRY [SHI'AR] (last in Hulk/Hercules Unleashed, last mentioned in Avengers v3 #1) 
MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID] (Last in Avengers: Celestial Quest #8*) 
CAPTAIN UNIVERSE/GABRIEL VARGAS [HUMAN] (last in Captain Universe/Silver Surfer) 
UNI-POWER/UNI-FORCE [ENERGY-BASED LIFEFORM] (last in Captain Universe/Silver Surfer) 
ROCKET RACCOON (last in Sensational She-Hulk #46) 
GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS] (last in Nick Fury's Howling Commandos #6) 

*Re: Mantis. Given that her power status-quo & skin colour is consistant with the ending of Celestial Quest, but not the cameo in Avengers Dissassembled, I'm assuming she was a Wanda-ghost there the way others have been established to be) 

Other characters: 
RONAN THE ACCUSER [BTS only] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Prologue; next in Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #1) 
CHAN-DAR, CAPTAIN [KREE] (new character) 
GALEN-KOR, KREE INTELLIGENCE FIRST-TIER ADMIRAL [KREE} (last seen evaporating into thin air in Avengers v3 #7...) 
(various Kree personnel, including an unnamed doctor) 

Summary: 
Takes place entirely on "Adalon Prime, Kree Fringe System" 

pg4-7:1 

Quill's being operated on, both because of the injuries he sustained in the Prologue, and to remove all his cybernetic implants. Captain Chan-Dar comes to check on him, and gets an argument that he's not worth wasting time on because he isn't Kree. She says the orders to fix him up and remove his cybernetics came from Ronan, so just do it, while watching the "technology bleed-off" which it seems the Phalanx can track; and to send him to Intelligence once done. 

She comes out and finds an attach telling her about two battalions setting up detection perimeters, and tells him to get them to shut them down. A ship lands, and she's told that Galen-Kor is on board and "requests" her presence. She's not happy. 

pg7:2-16 
"Four Hours Later" 

Peter Quill is escorted into the presence of Galen-Kor (and Chan-Dar). With his translation implant removed, they can't understand him, although he appears to understand them (see notes...), so Chan-Dar gives him a translator to stick to the side of his head. 

Galen-Kor is very unhappy about Quill's presence (and says he could legally have him executed, before Quill points out he's still alive, ergo wants he something from him), but because Ronan's told him to treat him as an ally and phrase what he's about to say as a request, has to be at least moderately bearable, if not "most unpleasant", even to someone "expendable". 

As they walk down a corridor, Chan-Dar fills them in on the Phalanx's basics, and what Quill's meant to do - blow up a facility manufacturing transmode "infection packages... viral bombs if you will", that could transmode whole worlds, and "'seed' the entire galaxy" in total, using a "no-tech strike force - primitive means to an end." And Quill's "primitive" Terran instincts are what they want to lead it. 

They then escort him past a series of cells to introduce him to his group, all Kree prisoners: 
*Bug, or "Loverbug". As in the Micronaut. Charged with three counts of... ummm... seducing Kree women and impregnating one of them, a "second-tier tech advisor". He says it's a "suicide mission", but, for the record, volunteered. 
*Deathcry. Charged with killing seven Kree, which she admits to, calling them "low blooded" and "craven". 
*Mantis. Belived to be a loon over the "Celestial Madonna" thing who is listed as "a mid-range mentat, who has manifested flashes of telekinesis, telepathy, precognition and, in one unfortunate instance, pyrokinesis". She also mentioned the mission to the Kree before they mentioned it to her. 
*Captain Universe (Gabriel Vargas). Describes getting the CU power (in Captain Universe/Silver Surfer) as "recently", was arrested for getting in the way of a Kree search-and-destroy, which Galen-Kor describes as routing Annihilus sympathisers, Vargas says were killing civilians. Quill thinks he could leave any time he wants, but Vargas says he "believes in justice". 
*Rocket Raccoon. Claims he was framed - he entered a restricted zone, which he says had no warnings posted. Raccoon jokes in evidence. 
*Groot. Nothing said about how he came to be there. Quill's vocally bemused at the sight of him. 

pg17-18 

Scene cut to a shortish time later, where Quill's being appraised of what intelligence they have. They don't know what it looks like, how big it is, or where it is to a precision of more than four square miles, and the how to destroy it is up to Quill. 

He's then shown to a weapons table, with gunpowder-and-bullets guns, based on "standard terran weapons". He tests a handgun out, and he's a lousy shot, missing the target with the whole of his first magazine. He puts it down to not having dealt with recoil for a while (notes...). 

He's then told they're "gone by this time tomorrow" and given his uniform, based on the standard one the whole group is given to dampen their heat signatures, with a helmet heavily based on his original Star-Lord helmet. He's not happy about it, but Galen-Kor makes it clear that it's not negotiable - they're deliberately playing on his "legacy". 

pg19 

In a private room, Peter Quill dresses in his new Star-Lord uniform and sighs. 

pg20-22 

Shortly before departure, Star-Lord reviews his team's progress, and is told how they're getting to Hala - the last step is a conventional, liquid-fuel rocket. Chan-Dar also says she was on Avaleen-4 when "it" (the FB from the issue's start) happened, and she says "Star-Lord saved my life and millions of...". He cuts her off abruptly, and goes in to see his team assembled. 

Bug goes "We whoTIKare about to die salute you", and he simply goes "Your lips to my ears..." 

Continuity notes: 

The orders Chan-Dar and Galen-Kor recieved from Ronan BTS must be from before he was transmoded on his way to becoming a Select, as seen in the Wraith series. Quill's injuries in the first scene are surprisingly consistant with being thrown through a window from a great height, as seen in the Prologue. How the hell Galen-Kor is alive is a complete mystery, but not one I expect to be addressed any time soon (Busiek-era Kree plots, of course, have a habit of "disappearing", as seen with the Ruul thing - maybe it's something else Genis inadvertantly changed along with the Absorbing Men screw-up, Elysius and Phyla). 

Otherwise, no markers relative to the other Conquest minis in #1. 

Goofs: 

Remember me complaining about all the Kree soldiers wearing green Captain's uniform in the Prologue? Well, we finally get an orange-brown Major's uniform... worn by a Captain! 

Did the Kyln have some sort of permanent-depowering effect, or did Quill include that in the cybernetics operations as part of his de-Star-Lording process? Because he's constantly referred to throughout this mini as a baseline human, when he could certainly fly and translate stuff without any cybernetic implants (or functional/intact costume) when he was Star-Lord (there may be a hint of this when he appears to understand the Kree even without his implants, but they don't get him...), and even the Worldmind (in the Nova Corps Files) refers to him still having these in the present-day. 

Calendar notes: 

Two days, uncertain amount of time after the Prologue, break between pg 19 and 20. Whether the "day" is local (Adalon Prime), Hala, or Earth (translated with the other speech, which would be logical) isn't clear in the slightest. 

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #2 
Writer: Keith Giffen 
Art: Timothy Green II 

Cast: 
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL 
BUG [KALIKLAK], aka "LOVERBUG" 
DEATHCRY [SHI'AR] (dies) 
MANTIS/? BRANDT 
CAPTAIN UNIVERSE/GABRIEL VARGAS 
UNI-POWER/UNI-FORCE 
ROCKET RACCOON 
GROOT (dies... alledgedly) 

Other characters: 
RAVENOUS [BTS only] (last in Annihilation #6) 
various PHALANX (Scientists, seers) 
various ANNIHILATION WAVE bugs 

Summary: 
Whole issue takes place on "Hala, Capital World of the Kree Empire" 

pg1-6: 
(Surface-->Sublevels) 

The issue picks up in mid-action, shortly after they've landed, with a bunch of Phalanx seers/sentries observing and attacking them. Captain Universe, with directions from Star-Lord, Mantis and the Uni-Power itself, starts zapping them as Deathcry slashes several in half. While Rocket Raccoon and Bug have a brief tiff over line of fire, Deathcry gets exceptionally annoyed at Captain Universe when he zaps "her kill". They make it to a sublevel, Mantis calmly narrating why they should be okay before calmly (running trait) explaining why Deathcry currently wants to kill CU. 

As Bug & RR point out though, they don't know where they need to go, or what they're looking for when they get there. 

pg7-8: 
"Phalanx Nerve Center" 

Two Phalanx Scientists review the insertion of Star-Lord's crew, and note another "biological... intrusion, possibly from the planet Kree-Lar..." 

pg9-22: 
(Sublevels) 

SL's crew wonder around fairly aimlessly, gradually getting more annoyed, when a group of Annihilation bugs burst through the ceiling, fighting another bunch of Phalanx Seers. 

As Bug puts it, their bosses didn't give them the "Don't use tech" memo and they're losing badly. Deathcry, against SL's orders, leaps into the fray, and the others are quickly spotted as a result. 

They fight. 

In the midst of it all, when the lead AWbug suggests to SL that the Phalanx make you "long for the day when we fought each other", SL doth protest too loudly with his "NO!" It also complains that its' weapons keep resetting to Non-Lethal, but refuses to ditch them at Bug's suggestion. 

SL identifies a pipe in the rubble of the battle they can use to escape, but when Captain Universe saves Deathcry again, she flips out and tries to kill him. He looks away and points - and a few bits of bone, blood, feathers and assorted pieces of body parts hit the floor. 

As he sits shell-shocked at what he did, Rocket Raccoon tries to stop him going deeper into shock, and asks Groot for a hand. Groot picks them up, says "it will be a glorious death", and flings them both at the pipe SL picked out. 

Mantis picks up a protesting Rocket, who's shouting that they can't leave Groot behind, while Bug drags a limp Captain Universe into the pipe. 

As Groot is - as RR puts it - "getting chewed up"; Captain Universe tries to tell SL what happened. He said he saw, and either him or her was going make it - and he's glad it was him, and he should "stow [his] emotional baggage" and cut loose. 

Leaving Bug & CU wondering how expendable he considers them all... 


Continuity notes: 
No direct links to the other Conquest minis. 

Goofs: 
Uni-Power, not Uni-Force, Mr Giffen... [What makes it worse is that he got it right in issue 1...] 

Calendar notes: 
However long it takes to get from Adalon Prime to "decommissioned Kree Outpost 7-Baraka" by standard Kree vessel, plus however long it takes to get from there to Hala by conventional rocket, plus time for boarding & disembarking after the end of last issue. 

That is, your guess is as good as mine as to the exact length of time between the two issues. Probably not more than a day or two, and may be less. 

Timeframe: 
pg1-3: Immediately after landing, some unclear amount of time after issue 1. Three minutes (Hala time 0944-0947) 
pg4-6: Continues from pg1-3, small number of minutes. 
pg7-8: Phalanx Scientists review SL crew's activities since landing, and note the bugs' landing. 
pg9-22: Continuing from pg6, into big firefight. Not even an hour 


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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #3 
Writer: Keith Giffen 
Art: Timothy Green II 

Cast: 
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL 
BUG [KALIKLAK], aka "LOVERBUG" 
MANTIS/? BRANDT 
CAPTAIN UNIVERSE/GABRIEL VARGAS 
UNI-POWER/UNI-FORCE 
ROCKET RACCOON 
GROOT 

Other characters: 
Various anonymous KREE 
Various PHALANX seers 

Summary: 
Whole issue takes place on "Hala, Kree Homeworld" 

pg1 

A pink Kree "fifth tier maintance worker" is found unconscious and possibly dead wearing only his boxer shorts, and a blue Kree alerts a Phalanx Seer to this. The Seer dismisses the Kree and notes that it's the fifth confirmed incident... 

pg2-4:3 

The clothes are currently on Star-Lord's back. He's trying to hide in plain sight, noting that other than a few Seers flying around, the area where they are seems relatively normal, and accesses a Kree database with an anonymised security password, finding the Phalanx have adopted it. He finds the Phalanx have created an "airborne nanovirus" variant of the transmode virus, and everyone on Hala is incubating it. 

pg4:4-17 
"1000 feet below" 

As Mantis fills the rest in on what happened in the Prologue (having been the only one to read the mission briefing), a minature version of Groot appears. Bug says it makes sense, and when CU doesn't get it, Mantis expands that, basically, this is a cutting off the main Groot that will probably regrow to full size. As RR prompts Groot to jump on his shoulder ("Turnabout's fair play." "Groot will not be patronised"), Star-Lord arrives back. 

When he says that Mantis was right, explaining what he found, Bug reacts, saying there's BILLIONS! of Kree. (7,052,004,624 as of the last census, says Mantis. Bug points out how annoying this pedantry is). RR says they don't know if they're all infected, but SL thinks it "feels right". RR isn't amused, and him & Bug report that CU isn't holding up well. Bug then wonders what they can do - it's not as if genocide is an option - and SL fobs him off, while Groot thinks the universe would be better off without the "fleshy vermin". 

Shortly afterwards, a load of mechanical locust-things come along, devouring the... rats?... and making a go for them. They start running, and CU nearly freezes when SL tells him to slow them down, but when the Uni-Power tells CU that the Phalanx are using the non-organic drones to "Purge the sub-levels of all life forms", he says then it won't be murder and starts zapping. 

The others run along until they hit a line of drones coming from the other direction. While Bug smashes a few with his bo-staff, and SL and RR shoot at them, they're being backed up as CU is being backed up from the other direction. While it's looking hopeless, Mantis traces a circular hole in the wall, and kicks it out, giving them a way to go. They reach a damaged flight of stairs up one level, and RR sniffs that the pipes on the wall contain running water, and directs CU to blow them up. SL gets CU to fly himself and Mantis up to the next level, while Bug and RR (with Groot) manage to clamber up themselves. They rush through a door, and CU welds it shut behind them. 

Heading for a ladder, CU refuses to join them. Instead he's going to hold them off for 30 secs, then blow the place up. SL isn't happy about Gabe's martyr-complex, but heads up. The Uni-Power tells CU he can't take much more, but he doesn't care. It then tells him he's T-O infected with the airborne "nano-virus" transmode variant - and it "stands to reason" the others are too. With the half-minute up, he prepares to "show [the UP] he deserved its' power"... 

pg18-22 
(heading for an active level...) 

Nearing the top of the shaft, SL greets the "SHAK-SHRAK SHAK-KOOM KOOM!" sound effect with a "Give 'em hell, Gabe". As Bug muses that whatever's up there better be worth it as they emerge... they're greeted by hundreds more of the drones on three-and-a-half sides. They rush for the gap, down a corridor and SL frantically types his access code in to unseal the door. They emerge into a busy crowd of civillian Kree. 

The swarm stops as it reaches the civvies - Mantis notes that "sterlizing an active level would be counterproductive" - but they're trapped in the open. When a couple of Phalanx Seers arrive to tell them to "surrender or face termination", they put down their weapons and are "arrested", much to Groot's displeasure... except for Mantis, who suddenly reveals she can cloak herself from the Phalanx. She tells them to stay calm, and telepathically tells Captain Universe - who's blown half his mask and his right sleeve off, is clutching his right side and has glass-like shards of metal stuck in various places but is still very much alive - that he is now their "only hope". 

Continuity notes: 
No direct links to the other Conquest minis. 

Goofs: 
There's that "Uni-Force" again... 

Calendar notes: 
"Two days" since they landed on Hala, per Star-Lord. 

Timeframe: 

pg1-22: Two Days since #2, again, a matter of an hour or two for the issue tops. 

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #4 
Writer: Keith Giffen 
Art: Timothy Green II 

Cast: 
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL 
BUG [KALIKLAK], aka "LOVERBUG" 
MANTIS/? BRANDT 
CAPTAIN UNIVERSE/GABRIEL VARGAS (hereafter, simply "VARGAS, GABRIEL" 'twould seem) 
UNI-POWER/UNI-FORCE 
ROCKET RACCOON 
GROOT 

Other characters: 
various PHALANX (Scientists, seers, soldiers). One Scientist briefly becomes Captain Universe. 
various Kree soldiers 
CHAN-DAR, CAPTAIN [KREE] 

Summary: 
Pages 1-16 take place on "Hala, Kree Homeworld" 

pg1 
"Penal Unit Alpha" 

SL, RR, Groot & Bug sit unhappily in cells - RR's thinking about dissection, SL wants to wring Mantis' neck, Bug's showing a line in black humour, and Groot generally wants to crush the Phalanx. 

SL wonders why they're still alive, and thinks they've become "interesting" to the Phalanx, then further wonders where "Mantis and Gabe are". 

pg2-3 
"One mile across the city" 

Mantis confidently predicts the rest of the crew will be fine, as the Phalanx will like the opportunity to study the airborne transmode nanovirus variant's effects on diverse biological hosts. Mantis and the Uni-Power (there's a "Use the Force" line in here that makes me think that's the reason they've been getting its' name wrong since #2...) talk CU into sending it to find a Phalanx host to see if they've got an antidote. 

pg4-5 
"Phalanx Nerve Center" 

A couple of Phalanx Scientists review the data on SL's crew and confirm they're all infected, and, with their "unanticipated usefulness ended" proceed to arranging their deaths, when one suddenly gets hit by an energy anomaly, which gives it a familiar costume... 

pg6 
(Penal Unit Alpha) 

SL isn't happy when Mantis turns up to tell them they, in SL's words, "gave the Uni-Force to the Phalanx". She points out they're all infected, Bug says the cure sounds worse than the disease, and no-one's happy. Mantis says she can't cloak them all, and they'll have to fight their way back to CU... 

pg7:1-7:2 
(Mile across city) 

...who's sitting, unable to walk (since he was paraplegic before the UP bonded to him) where he and Mantis were talking before. 

pg7:3-8 
(Phalanx Nerve Center) 

The CU-Scientist gets the other Phalanx not to shoot on sight, but they won't let it connect to the main core, even as it protests they can copy the UP. It gets angry... 

pg9-12 
"Penal Unit Alpha" 

SL's crew fight some oddly non-Phalanxed Kree who are under Phalanx orders, who let them go after they stop shooting at them despite the fact it'll get them killed. 

pg13 
(Phalanx Nerve Center) 

The CU-Scientist goes beserk, accessing the core. The Uni-Power takes the chance to get the antidote data and run. 

pg14-15:2 
(Mile across city) 

In the meantime, a Phalanx Seer has found Gabe. The Uni-Power gets back literally just in the nick of time to stop him getting killed. He spots a big plume of smoke and flies for it, guessing the source... 

pg15:3-19:2 
(ship park, into ship, into orbit and beyond) 

...yep, it's them. On the run from a bunch of Phalanx Seers and Soldiers, CU gets there just in time to stop a Seer from disabling the shuttles. Rocket Raccoon, the designated driver, gets on one with Bug and starts it up as the suddenly-confident CU tells SL to get on board and he'll "blast them a safe corridor". 

As they take off, SL tells RR that the warnet's designed to keep stuff out rather than in - he should know, as he designed it - but that doesn't make it easy. RR proceeds to explain EXACTLY how easy it was, and adds that his security's a joke. RR then goes to warp - CU's taken with them by the ripples, while the stuff behind them is destroyed. 

Reaching their "agreed-upon co-ordinates", they call in for pickup, and they're informed to prepare for "extraction and ship detonation". Moments after SL lets out a "Ship WHAT?!", the ship goes boom. 

pg19:3-22 
"Kree Fringe World Alon-Gim" 

Fortunately, the Kree remembered to teleport them out first. 

Some time (?) later, Quill walks with Chan-Dar again, and checks that his crew got their pardons, and finds that the Uni-Power shared the nanovirus antidote with the Kree - who are now preparing an airborne antidote - and moved on. 

Gabe, however, has had his ambulatory system fixed (replaced?) by the Kree and is thus back on his feet even unpowered. He says something about smuggling the tech to Earth, and Quill warns him that'll land him straight back in prison. Gabe then makes an odd reference to being a trained soldier, and sticking around for "Round Two". Quill isn't happy to hear this, and gets progressively less happy as Chan-Dar spells it out to him - they've not been decommissioned, and there are more missions lined up for their "only low-tech resource with direct combat experience". He goes round a corner to find Mantis, Bug, RR and a once-again full-size Groot in civvies but otherwise ready and waiting for the next mission. 

Quill says he's in Hell. Gabe says "Deal with It", RR asks what if they promise not to call him "Star-Lord", and Bug tells him that the briefing's at 0200. 

Continuity notes: 
No direct links to the other lead-in minis. 

SL & crew don't appear in Conquest-proper #1, but are due to appear in #2 onward. 

Goofs: 
Aannd more "Uni-Force". I want to know how they got it right in #1 if they were going to $%^& it up the rest of the way. The switch better not have been just so Mantis could quote Star Wars... 

Page 14's last panel is obviously flipped, since the remains of Vargas' mask and the surviving glove are on the wrong side. 

The Uni-*sigh* Force leaving the remains of his costume on him and the costume on the Phalanx Scientist (and not repairing the costume when it goes back to him) is... odd. Doubly so considering that, with the Star-Lord Crew uniform, "Comic Code"-type considerations don't come into it. 

Captain Chan-Dar's still in Major colours, and we get yet more Kree goons in green. 

Calendar notes: 
No temporal references makes it hard to say, but probably a couple of hours since #3 and a couple of days between 19:2 and 19:3. 

Timeframe: 
pg1-19:2: Same day as #3, couple of hours. 
pg19:3-22: Couple of days later, ten minutes or so. However, length of time since 19:2 can vary relatively freely depending on how long it "needs" to be to accomodate stuff elsewhere.

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Jun 13, 2008 9:20 am 
By Somebody
Director

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #1
Writer: Javier Grillo-Marxuach
Art: Kyle Hotz
"Wraith chapter 1"

Cast:
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]
RA-VENN [KREE]
RONAN [Phalanx Select]

Other characters:
SUPREME INTELLIGENCE-BTS (as ghost, cf #4)
various PHALANX Scientists, Soldiers, Seekers

Summary:

pg1-7
"Phalanx Heavy Cruiser DXO-9, Kree Outer Rim Territories"

A Phalanx ship tractor-beams a small ship with no lifesigns. There's a humanoid with Kree DNA aboard which still doesn't have any life readings, and claims to have no names. They decide to study it, then kill it after it fights them, it crashes the Phalanx & escapes.

pg8-14
"Four Days Later"
City of Haroun, unnamed planet

Phalanx curfew is in force. The unnamed undead stops a rapist, and demans to help find a "man". Undead guy doesn't care, apart from the fact he can't jack in to a databank and the other guy agrees to lead him to the Resistance in Haline.

Cut to a bar door. R-guy takes undead guy in, and asks for the reward as everone draws guns. Undead guy knocks them all out, a voice over the speakers tells them to give him instructions, a passcode and let him come to Haline.

pg15-21
Haline-->orbit

Haline's the old, dead city under Haroun. Ra-Venn, the woman behind the speaker voice is there, and she wants his help after what he did to the Phalanx ship. He's only interested in a guy with a certain signet ring he wants to kill, she offers to tell him where to find the man.

Phalanx attack, they evacuate, undead-guy is captured.

pg22
Phalanx Selection Facility Alpha, Straits of Mirador

Ronan, servant of the Phalanx, prepares to interrogate undead-guy.

Timeframe:
pg1-7: Any time after the Prologue
pg8-14: "Four days Later"
pg15-21: Same day, apparently
pg22: Probably but not necessarily the same or next day. Ronan's capture must have taken place after his BTS in ANNCONQ:STARLORD #1.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #2
Writer: Javier Grillo-Marxuach
Art: Kyle Hotz
"Wraith chapter 2"

Main story (pg1-17:1, 17:2-18:2 (narration only), 18:3-18:4, 19-20 (narration only), 21:1, 21:2 (narration only), 21:3-22)

Cast:
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]
RA-VENN [KREE]
RONAN [Phalanx Select]
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT
PRAXAGORA

Other characters:
SUPREME INTELLIGENCE-BTS (as ghost, cf #4)

Summary:

pg1-2
"Kree Galaxy, Fringe Sector 964

Ra-Venn & co escape, but with their infrastructure destroyed and having lost undead-guy.

pg3-4:1+5:1
"The Straits of Mirador"
Phalanx Selection Facility Alpha
(control room)

A the Chief Phalanx Subjuator, a Phalanx Scientist, reports on the progress with Super-Skrull, Praxagora, Ronan and "the Kree with No Name"

pg4:2+5:2-6
Phalanx Selection Facility Alpha
Secure Holding

Super-Skrull's being tortured beside undead guy.

pg7-9
Secure Holding

Ronan's unhappy about being forced to serve the Phalanx. He begins to torture undead-guy, but the pain only makes him smile.

pg10-11:3
Phalanx Selection Facility Alpha
"Days" later

Lots of pain later, he hasn't got anywhere, and the Chief Subjugator isn't happy.

pg11:4-15
He starts physically beating undead-guy up to make him tell him who he is. He doesn't get anywhere.

pg16-17:1, 17:2-18:2 (narration only), 18:3-18:4, 19-20 (narration only), 21:1, 21:2 (narration only), 21:3-22
"One Hour Later"

Ronan calls undead-guy "a ghost, a wraith", and he decides he likes being called Wraith. He decides to tell him his origin story out of "pity".

Flashback (17:2-18:2, 19-20, 21:2)

Cast:
SIM-DEL; WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]; unnamed wife of Sim-Del; various Nameless

Summary:

A Kree named Sim-Del invented a new power source. The mercent houses who would have been ruined by this got it banned. He moved to a distant planet and allegedly made a barren planetoid into a paradise - until he and his wife were killed by a man wearing a signet ring.

Their son, who would become Wraith, hid in an airduct watching while this happened, and then a robot bunged him in an escape pod. It drifed into "the Exotric Latitude", "the space of the Nameless".

There, ancient Kree were possessed by Exolon, parasites who feed on the souls of their victims, becoming the Nameless - without their souls and unable to die, they lose sense of time and sentience, torturing themselves to feel anything. But the boy remembered the death of his parents and their murderers, in particular the ring, and beat the Nameless' leader, stole his ship and weapons, and went to hunt down his parents' killers.

Notes:

Set before Wraith #1, obviously. No indication of time is given.

After he's told it, he boasts that there is no pain Ronan can tell him he's not had, he's had his body and mind invaded but he's no-one's slave.

Ronan decides that the best/worst thing to do is to enslave him, and make him a Select. To that end, rather than do the easy thing and infect him with the transmode virus, he sticks some gizmos on him.

Timeframe
pg1-9: Apparently, this is Wraith's second session with Ronan [Ronan gives a very similarly-worded spiel to the one from #1 (22)]. The exact time which has passed is unclear
pg10-15: "Days" later
pg16-22: "One Hour Later"

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #3
Writer: Javier Grillo-Marxuach
Art: Kyle Hotz
"Wraith chapter 3"

Cast:
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]
RA-VENN [KREE]
RONAN [Phalanx Select]
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT
PRAXAGORA

Other characters:
SIM-DEL (ghost)
SUPREME INTELLIGENCE (Corpse, mind BTS as ghost cf #4)

Summary:

pg1:1+1:3-2:1
"The Straits of Mirador"
Phalanx Selection Facility Alpha
(control room)

Ronan reports to the Chief Subjugator on what he was told, and that Wraith went catatonic after he had the gizmos stuck on him.

pg1:2+2:2-4:3
Secure Holding

In his coma, Wraith hears a voice calling him Zak-Del, and is visited by the ghost of his father, telling him to kill the guy who killed him. Wraith says he's turned himself off until the Phalanx get beaten. His dad tells him to wake up, and go to "a star system known as the Parasite" and get some allies. He wakes up.

pg4:4-4:5
(control room)

ALERT ALERT. They send Ronan.

pg5
Secure Holding

Wraith knocks Ronan out and pulls the gizmo off.

pg6-8:1
(control room)

They flood the chamber with nerve gas, Wraith breaks out and heads for the control room, destroying the subjugator.

pg8:2-11
Secure Holding

Super-Skrull gets freed (they really should have just infected him...) and starts beating up Phalanx. Praxagora shows up. Wraith shows up and tells them to go with him.

pg12-17
"Ten Minutes Later..."
Selection Facility-->Space-->Selection Facility

Wraith gets his gun and spacebike. They fight Ronan and a bunch of Phalanx and escape.

Once they're gone, Ronan sees the rotting corpse of the Supreme Intelligence, which the Phalanx plan to use to fry every independent thought in the galaxy. They emotionally blackmail Ronan.

pg18-21:1+21:3+22:2
Parasite System, Kree Galaxy

Ra-Venn & co are hit-and-running Phalanx ships.They're losing until Super-Skrull & co show up. They agree to join forces.

pg21:2+21:4+22:1
Selection Facility

Ronan gives in.

Timeframe
pg1-17: Picks up fairly shortly after #2, but not directly. Only a couple of hours or so pass
pg18-22: Not that long later. Half a day or so at the outside.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #4
Writer: Javier Grillo-Marxuach
Art: Kyle Hotz
"Wraith chapter 4"

Cast:
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]
RA-VENN [KREE]
RONAN [Phalanx Select]
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT
PRAXAGORA

Other characters:
SIM-DEL (ghost)
SUPREME INTELLIGENCE (Corpse, mind BTS as ghost)

Summary:

pg1-2
"The Kree World Rei-Vaj"

SS, Praxagora & Wraith grab a Phalanx scientist

pg3-4
"Asteroid Field, Ollirg"

Ra-Venn reluctantly gives Wraith a pucture of the ring, and a few details about it. They hack into the Scientist and find out about the Phalanx plan, although not the SI's part.

pg5-6
Kirvati Pass

The Resistance get decimated, and the survivors flee.

pg7-8
"Phalanx Weapon Deployment: 30 minutes"

Ronan says to let them go, they'll submit in half an hour anyway.

Super-Skrull, Praxagora & Wraith stayed behind.

The Phalanx don't detect any bodies or survivors, Ronan realises it was drones, and they detect the three's hull-breach.

pg9-11
"Phalanx Weapon Deployment: 20 minutes"

They fight towards "the weapon", and the Phalanx have finally adapted to Wraith's exolon attack.

pg12-15
"Weapon Deployment: 10 minutes"

Wraith reaches the room, and prepares to destroy the SI's corpse. His dad's ghost shows up, and says the SI's ghost called him to help summon Wraith. Sim-Del tells his son to use the Exolon to steal the SI's soul.

pg16
"Weapon Deployment: 1 minute"

Ronan shows up. 

pg17-20
"Weapon Activated-- Weapon Activated--"

It activates, Wraith steals the SI's soul as his dad said, and the swarming of the Exolon devastates the Phalanx. Bizarrely, Ronan was apparently never T-O infected, just held in check by gizmos, and is freed. Wraith stops him committing suicide.

pg21-22
"Two Days Later"

Wraith's not told anyone about the stealing-the-SI's-soul bit, nor about the recovered Ronan's deathwish.

Notes:
Wraith never heard Ronan call the SI a god, yet references it.

This was crap. Really, really, crap. That's why the summary part is far shorter than normal - I couldn't bear rereading it for any longer than I need to.

There can be a gap as long as you need between #3 and #4, within the bounds of Conquest as a whole.

There's a severe timing issue involving Wraith #4, Phyla #4 and Conquest #1, but I'll discuss that in the analysis of Phyla #4.

Timeframe
pg1-20: Anything between a day and a week after #3.
pg21-22: Two days later (but see above).

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Jun 13, 2008 9:28 am 
By Somebody
Director

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #1
Writer: Christos N. Gage 
Art: Mike Lilly
"Destiny"

Opening Flashback (pg1)

Cast:
PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE]
ELYSIUS [TITAN]

Summary:
Phyla-Vell posts a personal best on an obstacle course, second only to Mar-Vell's historical record. Elysius isn't happy, saying she's too happy to have failed, and that she's just heard Genis has died. She tells Phyla to run the course again.

Notes:
Phyla's in her Captain Marvel v4 costume. Logically, this falls in the "three days" between TBolts #100-FB (35) and TBolts #100 (1:1-1:3)+(36-37), and everything else follows from that placement-wise and calendar-wise.

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Main story (pg2-22)

Cast:
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL, last in Annihilation: Conquest - Prologue
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS, last in Annihilation: Conquest - Prologue
SUPER-ADAPTOID [Phalanx Select]
ANNIHILUS-OP?/-BTS? (ghost/psychic residue/something like that.)
DRAGON OF THE MOON-BTS

Other characters:

SUPREME INTELLIGENCE-VO (as ghost)
PHALANX Soldiers
Unnamed PRIEST OF PAMA
Unnamed COTATI

Summary:

pg2-11:2
"The fringes of the Kree Empire"

Phyla & Moondragon are heading for "the Priests of Pama's Sanctuary" to try and deal with headaches Moondragon's been having that have her screaming, even if MD doesn't want to stall. Then some Phalanx Soldiers rip into the ship and tell them to surrender. Phyla attacks them and knocks them out of the ship, only to be attacked by the Super-Adaptoid.

Big fight, until Phyla starts to get taken over by Annihilus and drives the Adaptoid back. He regroups, and she tries to flee, and eventually loses him in an asteroid belt - and notices one of the jewels on the q-bands has gone black.

pg11:3-16

She flies to the sanctuary, wondering if the priests can help her too. Moondragon's talking to an unnamed bald & bearded priest, but cuts off when she sees Phyla. She says they've helped with her headaches, and dismisses them quickly.

Phyla asks Moonie & the Elder (title, not name) priest to scan her for what happened, and MD recognises it as Annihilius' influence. Phyla wonders if "the loss of [her] Cosmic Awareness" is tied to it. MD suggests they use the q-bands to try and search for the person they're looking for, Phyla's jumpy, and the priest offers the services of the resident Cotati to help.

They scan, Phyla notices the barrier, and a signature that might be what they're looking for in a remote star system, saying that she can use the bands to head right to it. The Elder offers to help Phyla train to resist the "dark" corruption in the bands, and MD presses Phyla into staying for one night.

pg17
[Night]

Phyla & MD talk, and MD admits to stalking Quasar/Wendell in the past.

pg18-22
"Three Hours Later..."

A group of Phalanx Soldiers led by the Super Adaptoid arrive and set the place on fire, slaughtering those there. Phyla wants to take revenge, and the voice from the Prologue stops her, saying the "universe falls with [her]" if she "falls" herself. It also tells her that the reason her jewel went dark is that, with the Kree Empire cut off from the rest of the universe, the bands are running out of power. This leads Phyla to change her tune, and she tells MD that they're moving.

Continuity notes:
The SI's voice cameo means this whole series must take place before Wraith #4... which brings up a calendar problem I'll come to in that segment of issue 4.

Phyla apparently lost her "limited" Cosmic Awareness in Annihilation #6 when she got the Q-bands.

Goofs: 
The q-bands are constantly depicted with four or five jewels each throughout the series. They should have seven apiece. And given that they've run low on power without going black before... (plus, the psychic residue thing is a crock)

Calendar notes: 
We're obviously some days on from the Prologue, past the end of NOVA4 #7 & ANNCONQ:STARLORD #4, and we'll intersect with ANNCONQ:WRAITH #4 soon enough...

Timeframe:
pg2-16: An hour or two. Day on the Priests' sanctuary planet
pg17: Night, unclear amount of time later
pg18-22: Three hours after pg17

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #2
Writer: Christos N. Gage 
Art: Mike Lilly
"Destiny Part 2"

Cast:
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS, also in FB
SUPER-ADAPTOID [Phalanx Select]
ANNIHILUS-OP?/-BTS? (ghost/psychic residue/something like that.)
DRAGON OF THE MOON-BTS, also full appearance in FB

Other characters:

PHALANX soldiers
unnamed BROOD

In flashback only:
New Defenders (ANGEL, BEAST, ICEMAN, CLOUD, VALKRYIE?, ????)
MENTOR/ALARS

Summary:

pg1-6:3
"Kree Fringe Sector, above the planet Dlaw-Neurg"

Phyla & MD fight what looks like a (non-Phalanx) Brood. When MD gets injured, Phyla loses it and Annihiluses out again until MD brings her back in line by saying she loves her.

pg6:4-7:1 + 7:2-9 (narration only) + 10
"Ten minutes Later, on the surface of Dlaw-Neurg"

Phyla & MD talk, and MD spends time flashing back to her encounters with the Dragon of the Moon. I've never read those comics, and I have no idea how much of this is new material and how much is direct repeat, so I can't analyse it fully. Basically it amounts to

(7:2-8:1): Her first encounter with the Dragon, before she took the name
(8:2) Lots of Priests recoil in horror at her taking the name "Moondragon" (from MD's own POV, so she's not on-panel)
(8:3) In what I think is her New Defenders costume, with the Dragon looming over her
(8:4) In her "classic" costume, trying to kill the New Defenders. I see Angel, Beast, Iceman, Cloud, a woman with a sword who I think is Valkyrie in a costume I don't know, and some orange guy with bat-wings on his back.
(8:5) "In the end, to banish the Dragon, I died" - shot of the Dragon flying in the back, with Moondragon's ghost, or her turned to stone or something being looked at by Beast
(8:6) Her being grown a new body, with Mentor looking on

Phyla swoons over MD's "bravery"

pg10
"The Kree Planet Ollupac"

Super-Adaptoid watches as a Phalanx Soldier completes the assimilation of the Governor of the planet, and asks about anything he knows of anyone who could be a "Savior". He says the only talk that could relate is of rumours of a "wizard" he'd dismissed as myths. The Soldier wonders aloud if that could be... "the Prodigal?" (i.e., Warlock/Douglock). Super-Adaptoid cuts him off, saying to mention him's punishable by deactivation. He says he'll just follow Phyla.

pg11-22
[Dlaw-Neurg]

Phyla flies along with Moondragon on a tiny platform. MD has another headache and falls off, and Phyla catches her. They see a ship they don't recongise that has the energy signature they'd been following, but the signature is "old".

A big bug of a different type attacks them when they go inside, and Phyla chucks it out. MD asks if she can't use her cosmic awareness to save her bands' energy. Phyla says it wasn't much - saying how it drove Genis insane, and (accompanied by a picture of an event she can't flash back to...) when the Adaptoid tried to mimic her dad's awareness, it shut it down, and that she'd been given a very limited version as a result. And that had been nuked by the q-bands, along with her nega-bands, anyway.

Then the Adaptoid crashes the party in Giant-Man form and attacks them again. Fight ends when Phyla tries to fry it, and instead it uses the energy to mimic the q-bands before flying off to track the "Savior" directly with them, leaving behind a horde of Phalanx Soldiers to fight them.

Then Moondragon shuts down, followed by her turning into a big dragon. Literally.

Continuity notes:
Again, I have no real idea where all the Moondragon FBs fit in, and I'll need help with them.

Apparently, the Titans fixed Moondragon's ear after Annihilation.

It's restated that Phyla lost her CA in Ann6 or soon after, and that her nega-bands were absorbed/destroyed by the q-bands.

Timeframe:
pg1-6:3: Jump-cut from the end of last issue, unclear amount of time's passed
pg6:4-9: Ten minutes later, long talk.
pg10: Elsewhere
pg11-22: Same day as 1-9.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #3
Writer: Christos N. Gage 
Art: Mike Lilly
"Destiny Part 3"

Cast:
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS
SUPER-ADAPTOID [Phalanx Select]
ANNIHILUS-OP?/-BTS? (ghost/psychic residue/something like that.)


Other characters:

ADAM WARLOCK (in cocoon - BTS?)
PHALANX soldiers
DEJANN [MORAG IUIAN]

Summary:

pg1-3:1 + 3:2-3:4 (narration only) + 4-6
"The Kree World Dlaw-Neurg"

Moondragon telepathically clarifies for Phyla that yes, it's her, as she fries a bunch of Phalanx Soldiers with blue flame from her new mouth. There's another FB panel to her fighting the Dragon, then two FB panels to the middle of issue 1, to the talk with the priests' Elder that was interrupted when Phyla turned up - the pain was the Dragon's attempts to control her, and he'd told her to embrace it and thus control it rather than letting it control her. Leading to her "becoming the Dragon's avatar in body as well as name". And she can't change back.

FLASHBACK (3:2)

Cast: Moondragon, Dragon of the Moon

Moondragon vs. Dragon of the Moon - wearing green robes with a large, vertical, white stripe down the middle. Same battle we saw in #2-FB (8:1).

FLASHBACK (3:3-3:4)

Cast: Moondragon, unnamed Priest of Pama

Immediately before ANNCONQ:Q 1 (12) - an earlier part of the conversation between Moondragon & the Elder, which we only saw the very end of in #1 as we were following Phyla.

pg7-9
"The Edge of Kree Space, the planet Morag Iu"

They trace the signal to Morag Iu, and find a big, ornate castle. As they fly toward it, the Giant-Size Super Adaptoid comes in and zaps them, decides they're dead as they fall (to a 92% probability) and moves on

pg10-22
"One Hour Later..."

They're not dead. They wake up in a village, where the people have "administered healing draughts to [them] both." The lead guy assumes she's the "Wizard", and calls her "holy one", but she says no. She gets his name (Dejann) and gets moving.

The place is ornately decorated, and dead guards line the place, including big monsters - and the tech resembles that of the ship from #2. Phyla's still low on Q-energy, down to three jewels.

They find the adaptoid, and a cocoon covered in Phalanx gizmos - although the guy inside, according to Moondragon, isn't assimilated yet. The Adaptoid gets rid of them by telling them the Phalanx are about to slaughter Dejann's people.

Phyla zaps most of the Phalanx, but empties the Q-bands in the process.

Timeframe:
pg1-6: Continues directly from the end of last issue, short period of time
pg7-9: Unclear amount of time later, short period of time
pg10-22: An hour later, a couple of hours.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #4
Writer: Christos N. Gage 
Art: Mike Lilly 

Cast:
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL (next in Annihilation: Conquest #1)
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS (next in Annihilation: Conquest #1)
SUPER-ADAPTOID [Phalanx Select]
ANNIHILUS (ghost/psychic residue/something like that.)


Other characters:

QUASAR III/WENDELL ELVIS VAUGHN (ghost/psychic residue/something like that.)
SUPREME INTELLIGENCE (as ghost)
ADAM WARLOCK (next in Annihilation: Conquest #1)
PHALANX soldiers

Summary:

pg1-15:3
"The Edge of Kree Space, the planet Morag Iu"

The villagers offer to help fight as her army. She reluctantly says yes. Phyla flies after the Adaptoid, who decides to kill her. He hits her as Thor, then decides she's too manoeverable, and traps her in a Q-bubble. She absorbs this, but he keeps hitting her. At the same time, she notices he can only copy her, and she uses all her energy in one burst as a distraction to get close enough to stab him in the chest, then absorbs the energy from his Q-band copies.

Then Annihilius starts to control her again...

pg15:4-16
[Inside the Q-bands]

...but Quasar's ghost shows up (that is, WV), having just pulled himself together, to take out Annihilus' ghost, and stop the Annihilus takeovers. He gives her a quick peptalk, and then is gone, taking Annihilus with him.

pg17-22
[Morag Iu]

She puts all the Phalanx Soldiers in a big bubble, and throws them into the sun. They pull the gizmos off the cocoon, and Moondragon recognises it, saying they shouldn't go any further, since they might harm "Him" (remind me, has Moondragon ever met Kismet?), but Phyla says that waiting would take too long.

Then the Supreme Intelligence's ghost shows up, revealing that he was behind the whole quest, and the voices Phyla had been hearing. He says that they need to help him force Him out, claiming his premature rebirth is now inevitable, and they must help mitigate the damage. "Quickly now, for momentous events unfold, and I am unable to tarry here" (an apparent reference to the countdown in Wraith #4), and Adam Warlock is reborn. As the SI fades out, Warlock is clearly not in the best of health.

Continuity notes:
Another confirmation here that Phyla's Nega-bands were destroyed by the Q-bands in Annihilation #6. However, a goof's coming up - she says she's super-strong and can fly on her own (and demonstrates the flight)... but in Conquest #4, she can't fly without the Q-bands and needs Adam Warlock to save her. Pick which one's the goof...

Calendar notes: 
Okay, that problem I mentioned back in the notes for #1 and Wraith: The ending of this leads DIRECTLY into Conquest #1, and the Phyla/Moondragon/AW sequences there are essentially contiguous, at least until the HE blows up the sun in Conquest #3.

However, the SI's appearance here must be before he was absorbed by Wraith's Exolon in Wraith #4 - he claims his body is no more, but the whole point of the Exolon is that they grab a soul and never let go (as they feed on it), so he must only mean in the sense that he's a ghost - and besides, he talks about "momentous events unfold[ing]" that mean he can't stay - an apparent reference that this is occurring simultaneously with Wraith running to his body.

After that in Wraith, though, there's a two-day gap before the epilogue of Wraith #4, during which Ronan recovers, they plan, etc - and in his closing monologue, Wraith explicitly says he's still carrying the soul in his Exolon. And Ronan, S-Skrull and Wraith appear in Conquest #1 after that. So either the Phyla/Moondragon/AW scenes in Conquest are taking place a couple of days behind the intercut Ronan/S-Skrull/Wraith scenes, or something screwy's going on.

Timeframe:
Continues directly from the end of last issue, an hour or so tops. Continues directly into Conquest #1.

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Jun 13, 2008 11:02 am 
By dimadick

"In her "classic" costume, trying to kill the New Defenders. I see Angel, Beast, Iceman, Cloud, a woman with a sword who I think is Valkyrie in a costume I don't know, and some orange guy with bat-wings on his back."

That would be Gargoyle/Isaac Christians of the Defenders.

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Jun 13, 2008 9:36 pm 
By Paul Bourcier
Director

Thank you, Somebody, for the further analysis. I'll look at this during the weekend and let you know if I have questions.

Paul B.

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Jun 16, 2008 5:48 pm 
By metaldragon

>>>
(8:5) "In the end, to banish the Dragon, I died" - shot of the Dragon flying in the back, with Moondragon's ghost, or her turned to stone or something being looked at by Beast
<<<

She turned to ash along with Gargoyle's body, Valkyrie, Andromeda, Manslaughter, and the Interloper.


>>>
She puts all the Phalanx Soldiers in a big bubble, and throws them into the sun. They pull the gizmos off the cocoon, and Moondragon recognises it, saying they shouldn't go any further, since they might harm "Him" (remind me, has Moondragon ever met Kismet?), but Phyla says that waiting would take too long.
<<<

Moondragon and Kismet met twice when Kismet was still "Her". The first time was in Marvel Two-In-One 61-63, and the second time was Quasar 29.

"May the Light shine forever!"

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Jul 12, 2008 2:31 pm 
By Somebody
Director

NOVA v4 #8
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Wellington Alves
"Knowhere, part one"

Opening Flashback (pg1)
Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (between Annihilation: Nova #4 and Annihilation #1)
QUILL, PETER JASON (next in Annihilation #1)
[XANDARIAN WORLDMIND is nominally present, but plays no part in the FB. Either BTS as-Rich or N/A.]

Summary:
Around a campfire during the Annihilation War, Peter Quill explains the "sombrero"-like structure of the universe to Nova - the hyper-dense convergence of all energy and matter at the centre called the "Crunch"; and the theorised "Rip" at the very edge, where no-one has ever gone before...

Continuity notes:
This is actually a retcon - previously, the Crunch was described as the edge of the universe. It's now being described as the very centre.

Calendar notes:
No Annihilation Day+ date. It's after the "Tartus Minor debacle" referred to several times in Annihilation #1, obviously, as it was just after that Quill "signed on", but that itself's not dated, so...

Main story (pg1 (narration only), pg2-22)

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (last in Nova v4 #7)
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (-VO?, last in Nova v4 #7)
COSMO [DOG; GOLDEN RETRIEVER/LABRADOR CROSS]

Other characters: (all new)

SUSPENSOR [XARTHIAN] (becomes "meat puppet"/Space Zombie, dies)
DISCHARGE [XARTHIAN] (becomes "meat puppet"/Space Zombie)
CYNOSURE [XARTHIAN] (becomes Space Zombie)
CRATER [XARTHIAN] (becomes Space Zombie)
FAZE II [XARTHIAN] 
sixth Luminal, unnamed [XARTHIAN]
ABYSS-OP-VO (we hear it talk, we see the "meat puppets" being controlled by it, we don't see it)

Summary:
pg1-3:3

Rich thinks of Peter Quill's lesson way back when, and how he couldn't get his head round it - and still can't, even as he tries to fight his way through the Rip until a vortex pulls him somewhere...

pg3:4-11

He lands (wakes?) into somewhere pitch black. Lighting it up, he finds [alien] blood on the walls, and some writing the Worldmind can't translate. Rich hears sobbing, and following it, he finds a crying, mohawked woman going "ready... ready... not...". Worldmind recognises her as Suspensor, a member of the Luminals, Xarth Three's equivalent of the Avengers. She continues crying, saying "Abyss. Is. Coming. Not Ready. Or."... and then exploded with light, as half her skin burns off and she turns into a kind of space zombie. Rich unleashes a blast meant to stun her, which vaporises her.

Then three more (unzombified) Luminals show up. With them Very Unhappy at what they just saw, and his Cable Syndrome limiting his power levels, he runs.

pg12-20:3

Just as he stops and tries to process it, a talking dog shows up. This helps.

"Cosmo", who wears a Soviet CCCP spacesuit and (telepathically) talks with a bad Russian accent, asks Rich to "followink" him, even as the talking-dog business takes Rich's "freak to a whole new level." Cosmo isn't amused, and Rich backs down and introduces himself. They shake hands/paws, and Cosmo says it's an "honor to meet man who pull Annihilus's heart out through his mouth."

As Cosmo tries to lead Rich, Nova checks with the Worldmind that he's real. WM confirms that "the dog is real, Richard. A Golden Retriever/Labrador cross. The dog exhibits advanced telepathic functions. And it has a good nature." He can also hear the Worldmind, and tells him he's on "Knowhere". "With 'K'." He takes him to the "Eyelid shutter" and opens it.

They're still in the Rip, and Knowhere turns out to be a giant, severed Celestial head. This leaves the Worldmind stuttering for a minute, and IT says it's "'freak' has also been taken to a whole new level."

Cosmo says in response to the rest of it that he doesn't know how it got there, or what the hell decapitated a Celestial ("Cosmo just glad Cosmo was not there when it happened"). In a decade or so, it'll ride the Rip's tides beyond the Cosmic Threshold. ("Then what?" "Pffttt!").

In the meantime, lots of people visit Knowhere to study the Rip. "All space & time meets here. All dimensions of reality. So people come here from all space and time. All species."

And they're all in hiding, in a pocket universe generated in one of the labs, scared of what the Luminals brought with them, that's done to others what it did to Suspensor. Cosmo says he didn't hide because "I wanted to assist. I could not help myself. I am man's best friend."

In the meantime, Worldmind's translated the writing at last. It goes "twenty-seven, twenty-six..."

pg20:4-22
"Six levels below..."

Five Luminals are there, looking at the box they've trapped their arch-enemy Abyss in, planning to maroon him at the end of the universe. "You always escape, Abyss. Always. Not But not this time." Cynosure hears Abyss counting down, and..

"Five, four, three, two, one... coming, ready or not". And there are now five more Space Zombies under Abyss' control.

Notes: 
Doesn't pick up directly from #7. How much time has passed, for the calendar, isn't entirely clear - but since Gamora & Drax need to follow Nova and reach the same destination within a day and a half despite starting two light years apart, it probably isn't more than a day.

Goofs: 
One, perhaps, for the end of Nova #7 more than this, but he didn't look like he (or Gamora and Drax, who in cosmological terms landed "nearby") landed anywhere particularly special.

Timeframe:
All in one day or less
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NOVA v4 #9
Writers: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Wellington Alves
"Knowhere, part two"

Opening Flashback (pg1-3)

Cast: (all before Nova v4 #8)
COSMO [DOG; GOLDEN RETRIEVER/LABRADOR CROSS]
CYNOSURE [XARTHIAN]
SUSPENSOR [XARTHIAN]
DISCHARGE [XARTHIAN]
CRATER [XARTHIAN]
FAZE II [XARTHIAN]
ABYSS-OP
Many unnamed characters

Summary:
Cosmo explains he's head of security, and when two bodies were found "three nights back", he set a team to work. But strange energy readings had been tracked to the Xarthian's area, and a big box they'd brought - which they denied any knowledge of. Cynosure patronisingly told him to "run along."

The next day, things went crazy, with lots of zombies, and he triggered an emergency lockdown and got everyone alive into a "dimensional envelope..."

Continuity notes:
First chronological appearance (to date) for all concerned.

Calendar notes:
1-3:2 = Three days before the events of NO4 8.
3:3-3:4 = Two days before the events of NO4 8.

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Main story (pg1-3 (narration only), pg4-22)

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND
GAMORA [ZEN WHOBERIAN/Phalanx Select] (last in Nova v4 #7)
DRAX THE DESTROYER [Phalanx Select] (last in Nova v4 #7)
COSMO [DOG; GOLDEN RETRIEVER/LABRADOR CROSS] (next in Guardians of the Galaxy v2 #1)

Other characters: (last appearance unless noted)

ABYSS-OP-VO
DISCHARGE [XARTHIAN] (as "meat puppet"/Space Zombie)
CYNOSURE [XARTHIAN] (as "meat puppet"/Space Zombie)
CRATER [XARTHIAN] (as "meat puppet"/Space Zombie)
FAZE II [XARTHIAN] 
sixth Luminal, unnamed [XARTHIAN] (as "meat puppet")
lots of generic Xarthian meat puppets.

Summary:

pg4-17

Nova & Cosmo are looking over the area when it happened (Cosmo's seen the Exorcist, from behind the sofa). The "dimensional envelope" turns out to be a tesseracted storage crystal, on Cosmo's collar. The Worldmind notes that the crystal - where everyone is kind of floating around in panic - has finite power, and when it's gone everyone will... fall out.

The Worldmind also has news on Abyss, who's apparently mystically empowered, and "capable of turning sentient life-forms into something called 'meat puppets'." It thinks Cosmo's telepathy, and the buffers that are holding Nova's transmode infection back are stopping them from being turned into meat puppets.

Cosmo's shocked to hear Nova is "transmode positive". He's heard of the Phalanx, "and also stories of the mysterious Technarchy parents that spawned them."

In the meantime, they're attacked by many Xarthian meat puppets. They zap a few between them, but Nova's infection means they can't hold out for too long - especially after the zombified Luminals arrive - and have to run again. They see the Luminals' "big box", with ghosts swirling about it, which Nova likens to a giant coffin.

Abyss taunts Nova, asking if he's there to let him out, and Nova tells the Worldmind to give him a full analysis of the box as the zombified Luminals arrive. Cosmo holds them off, and the Worldmind tells Rich that Abyss can supposedly escape from anything, anywhere; as the casket begins to malfunction, and is only minutes from letting Abyss out.

Rich can barely make it to the box, but as he touches it, he tells the Worldmind to reduce the anti-transmode buffer by 0.5%. Worldmind tells Rich "no", it'll let the virus out. Rich says he wants to let a little bit out, it's all he'll need. As WM says no again, the zombies begin to break through Cosmo's barrier, and Rich tells him again. This time he gives in, and Nova uses the TM virus to interface with and fix the casket. The zombies turn to dust.

The TM virus is contained again, but less securely than before - the Worldmind fears for Rich's "safety" [sic]. With Abyss contained, Knowhere's systems come back on.

pg18-20
"Knowhere, twenty-four hours later"

Nova's slept, but he fells like he has the flu - his transmode resistance is low, and the Worldmind's very unhappy with him.

Knowhere's back to normal.

Cosmo shows Rich the "Continuum Cortex", built into the brain stem of the Celestial - it's a teleport "nexus to anywhere and anywhen in universe". Cosmo's plotted a course for him to Kvch, the Technarchy homeworld, and has an adept give him a "passport" bracelet. Worldmind's excited at the prospect, hoping it's a breakthrough.

Nova tosses Cosmo a present as he teleports out. Cosmo unwraps it to find it's a chewy bone toy. "Cosmo's favourite!"

pg21-22
"Two hours later"

Cosmo's in his bed with the chew toy when there's an intruder alert. Rushing to the scene with some armed guards, two "armed and hostile" intruders shot their way to the Continuum Cortex. They arrive at the CC just in time to see Drax and Gamora teleporting after Nova...

Continuity notes:
Continued directly, or near-enough, from NOVA4 8.

Calendar notes:
None.

Timeframe:
pg1-17: Same day as NO4 8
pg18-20: "Twenty-four hours" after pg17
pg21-22: "Two hours" after pg20.

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Jul 12, 2008 2:34 pm 
By Somebody
Director

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #1 (Jan 2008)
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Tom Raney
"No Way Out"

Cast:
ADAM WARLOCK (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #4)
BLASTAAR [BALUURAN] (last in Annihilation #5)
HIGH EVOLUTIONARY
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #4)
PRAXAGORA (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #4)
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #4)
RA-VENN [KREE] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #4)
ROCKET RACCOON-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 2 (14)|
RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #4)
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT [SKRULL] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #4)
ULTRON
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #4)

Other characters:
KORATH THE PURSUER/KORATH-THAK (dies)
XEMNU
SHATTERAX [KREE]
various Kree soldiers
A couple of Phalanx Stompers

Summary:

pg1-4
"Hala, the Kree Homeworld..."

Blastaar leads a small resistance cell of Kree soldiers, which promptly get stomped by a pair of Phalanx Stompers.

pg5-19
"Terma, Kree Outworld"

Phyla gives the newly-reborn Adam Warlock a spiel about how the Phalanx are the Worst Thing Ever - but he doesn't recognise her or the dragon-form Moondragon, and is confused in general. Moondragon tries to help by giving him a flashback to ANNCONQ:Q 4 (no new information), and it does jog his memory a bit - the billions of souls killed in the Annihilation War drove him mad, and he cocooned himself to heal. Since he's not done yet, and he's got no truck with gods who proclaim saviours, he prepares to weave a new cocoon - with "billions of lives already in [his] head", he just wants to be left alone.

Suddenly, a burst of energy erupts from him, confusing him as much as the others, and he forms a costume and tells them to defend themselves. Despite his condition, he can notice when they're completely surrounded by a bunch of Phalanx Soldiers (led by Selects Korath, Shatterax & Xemnu) even if they can't. Phyla holds her own against Korath, but Xemnu almost knocks Moondragon out. Finally, though, the fight ends when Adam punches Shatterax a few miles with an energy fist, forms a bubble and gathers up Phyla & Moondragon, taking them to "the refuge" in the heart of the local sun, looking for answers...

pg20-21
"The borders of the Kree ceded territories"

Ronan, Super-Skrull, Wraith, Ra-Venn and Praxagora take a small ship to Kree-Lar, looking for "the Salvation of the Kree race" there. K'Lrt just thinks they'll get killed, and is seemingly proven right when they're shot out of the sky. 

pg22-24
"The heart of Terma's star"

Adam & co enter the Refuge, where someone's been working on "Nu-Kree", and the High Evolutionary greets his "son".

pg25-26
"Hala, the Phalanx Command Center..."

Korath, Shatterax and Xemnu report to the Babel Spire, and the central core of the Phalanx then kills Korath for his failure, before taking a physical form - Ultron!

Notes:
Picks up directly from ANNCONQ:Q 4, as in "this could be the next panel."

Ultron's form is far more traditional here than in the Mighty Avengers arc which should have preceded it in publication (it ran so late that they overlapped), although he has six eyes and two red lines on his chest to evoke the Phalanx designs.

He also has a cape. Just 'cause.

None of Star-Lord's crew appear, although Rocket Raccoon's revealed to be behind Blastaar's suicide attack next issue.

Calendar notes: 
See notes for ANNCONQ:Q 4 - the transition from that is handled fairly well, but the transition from ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4 has a couple of days missing. The whole of ANNCONQ 1-6, excluding epilogue, is done in a day.

Timeframe:
A couple of hours, tops.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #2 (Feb 2008)
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Tom Raney

Cast:
ADAM WARLOCK
BLASTAAR [BALUURAN]
BUG [KALIKLAK] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Starlord #4)
GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Starlord #4)
HIGH EVOLUTIONARY
MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID] (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Starlord #4)
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS
PRAXAGORA
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE]
RA-VENN [KREE]
ROCKET RACCOON (last on-panel in Annihilation: Conquest - Starlord #4)
RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE]
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL (last in Annihilation: Conquest - Starlord #4)
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT [SKRULL]
ULTRON
VARGAS, GABRIEL [HUMAN] (formerly Captain Universe, last in Annihilation: Conquest - Starlord #4)
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]

Other characters:
various Phalanx Scientists
various Nu-Kree
various Phalanx Soldiers
A couple of Phalanx Stompers
various Annihilation Wave bugs

Summary:

pg1-3
"The Babel Spire, Hala, the Kree Homeworld"

Some Phalanx Scientists torture Blastaar for information but he doesn't know anything, because everything was kept compartmentalised. He seemingly expires at their hands.

pg4-7:4
"The Refuge, in the Heliosphere of an outworld star"

The High Evolutionary is surprised to see Adam so soon - he was expecting him to take much longer to recover. Phyla admits they woke him early because "the Kree need him".

The HE doesn't really care about anything they say, until he pricks his ears up at the mention of the Supreme Intelligence ("an epithet I would take issue with, but still...). Adam has another energy seizure, in the middle of a "you won't decide my future" tantrum, and the HE decides to explain what "occupies" him there...


pg7:5-12
"Kree-Lar, in the ceded Kree territories"

Ronan & co apparently landed safely (K'Lrt "compliments" Prax & Ra-Venn "on their helm skills" as the only explanation), and watch a pitched "bugs vs. robots" battle. After an attack by some Phalanx Soldiers, they get some Annihilation Bugs to "take [them] to your leader".

pg13-16:4
"Hala"

Star-Lord and co. finally show up. Quill's been running the "anti-Phalanx resistance" with help from his crew. Rocket arranged for Blastaar to be the one captured, and to release some of Groot's pollen spores at the point he "died" - which Mantis can use to create a map of the Spire. Rocket's got one final point - Blastaar's not really dead, and they've got half an hour or so before the Phalanx figure it out and Select him.

They prepare to get to work.

pg16:5-22
"The Refuge"

The HE studies Adam and says there's nothing actually wrong with him - he was just woken too early, and his new powers have "yet to coalesce. Once they have refined, they will be easier to control."

The HE goes onto explain that the SI invited him to recreate the Kree [Ed: again?! Guess Genis really did knock the Ruul debacle out of continuity]. The Annihilation War cut him off, but he worked on alone, and now they're ready. He wants safe passage out of Kree space in return for Kree warriors - he's actually scared of being T-O infected - but Phyla breaks the "we're sealed off" news to him. As they talk further, Adam senses an incoming teleport a moment before it hits.

A moment after it hits, carrying a lot of Phalanx Soldiers and one Ultron, Ultron sticks his arm into Moondragon's chest, critically injuring her, before greeting Adam Warlock, "you are the one I seek.". Warlock says he won't like what he's found.

Continuity notes:

The SI must have contacted the HE before he was overthrown and lobotomised by House Fiyero, as shown in Annihilation. Similarly, the HE's holographic appearance in the X-Men: Endangered Species backups must take place before the Conquest Prologue or after ANNCONQ 6, as such communication would be impossible during the timespan of Conquest itself.

Timeframe:
Same day as last issue, we move on but an hour or two again.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #3 (Mar 2008)
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Tom Raney
"Together Alone" (yes, the same title as #2)

Cast:
ADAM WARLOCK
BLASTAAR [BALUURAN]
BUG [KALIKLAK]
GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS]
HIGH EVOLUTIONARY
MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID]
MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS (dies)
PRAXAGORA
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE]
RA-VENN [KREE]
RAVENOUS
ROCKET RACCOON
RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE]
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT [SKRULL]
ULTRON
VARGAS, GABRIEL [HUMAN] (dies)
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]

Other characters:
various Phalanx Soldiers (plenty die)
various Nu-Kree (all die)
various Annihilation Wave bugs

Summary:

pg1-10
"High Evolutionary's Heliosphere Refuge"

Adam KLTNNNNGs Ultron with an energy fist. Ultron simply picks himself up, calls him "perfect" and orders the Phalanx Soldiers to restrain him, and kill everyone else.

Phyla's more interested in Moondragon, and lifts her out of the way.

The HE tells the Nu-Kree to stop any Phalanx from touching him. When they get slaughtered, he zaps a few and teleports out.

Meanwhile, Adam's making hay, until Ultron takes him on again. Shortly afterward, Adam has another seizure and Ultron knocks him flat on his behind.

Phyla finds the HE, who says he would help the dying Moondragon "eagerly if [he] could", but he doesn't understand her dragon-biology - he doesn't even know if it IS biology. After apologising, he says they should get out and "raze" the Refuge behind them to kill Ultron. Phyla refuses to leave Moondragon, a moment before, with a last "I love you", Moondragon expires and evaporates.

The HE says he's sorry again, but mourn later. She doesn't want to hear it and jumps into the fray, literally.

Adam's seizure is still going on the floor, and Ultron tells the Phalanx to restrain him, until Phyla starts slashing through them. Adam picks himself up, and the HE contacts him to tell him Phyla can't kill Ultron, and he's just set the star to go boom. Adam leaps after Phyla, just as Ultron notes "the star is suddenly unsta-"

Boom.

pg11-15
"Kree Imperial Palace, Kree-Lar, the territories ceded to Ravenous"

Ravenous is relishing the moment of Ronan coming "grovelling" to him. He inspects his party, and when he reaches Wraith, Wraith zaps him and the bugs, before strangling Ravenous.

Meanwhile, Ronan's going for the throne - or rather what's in the passage beneath it...


pg16-22
"The Babel Spire, Hala, the Kree Homeworld"

Star-Lord & co are setting plastique explosives throughout the Babel Spire, looking to cripple it. Unfortunately, they're too late, Blastaar's back, at the head of a group of Phalanx Soldiers, and kills Vargas (the ex-Captain Universe) and knocks down Quill. Then Ultron, who's not too happy about having his molecules scattered, wants to hit something. As Quill looks up and recognises Ultron (!), Ultron picks him up and, as he prepares to "vent his rage" on the handy human, he asks if there was any point he actually believed he would win...

Continuity notes:
Star-Lord recognises Ultron at first glance (and is shocked at the sight of him). Hmmm... does that fit?

Timeframe:
Still on the same day or so as #1-2 [and ANNCONQ:Q 2 onward for Phyla, since day & night mean nothing when you're planet-jumping. It's clearly been a LOOONNNNG day for her, with her girlfriend turning into a dragon and dying all in the same day]

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #4 (Apr 2008)
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Tom Raney
"Hopeless"

Cast:
ADAM WARLOCK
BLASTAAR [BALUURAN]
BUG [KALIKLAK]
DAYSTAR [GALADORIAN] (last in Prologue)
GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS]
HIGH EVOLUTIONARY
MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID]
PRAXAGORA
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE]
RA-VENN [KREE]
RAVENOUS
ROCKET RACCOON
RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE]
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT [SKRULL]
ULTRON
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]

Other characters:
various Phalanx Scientists
various Phalanx Soldiers
various Annihilation Wave bugs

Summary:

pg1-3:2
"The Babel Spire, Hala"

Some Phalanx Scientists are torturing Quill for info. Ultron, annoyed, wants to know why they've resorted to physical torture. They say he's claimed that, if they transmode him, his memory will be wiped.

Ultron says he's lying, to stall. He prepares to use his encphalo-ray to short-cut everything. As Ultron starts to read his memory ("Peter Jason Quill, born to Merideth Quill, Earth, fathered by a Spartoi dynast..."), a voice tries to tell the screaming Peter to stay calm, it's protecting his mind...

pg3:3-3:5
"Eight floors below"

...as Mantis gets through to him, Bug asks what's happening. She explains, and he notes that if they've rumbled Star-Lord, all their work will be for nothing...

pg4-5:1
"Five floors below that"

...as Select Daystar reports to Select Blastaar that, indeed, they've "isolated and rendered inert" the explosive charges. They converse on how uplifting they find Selection - and Daystar was apparently in Blastaar's group, seen in Annihilation #5. They go to find the others...

pg5:2-5:5
"Spire sub-basement"

...as Mantis telepathically contacts Rocket in the sub-basement, saying they need a new plan.

pg6-10
"Edge of the Terma system, Kree outworlds" [to Hala]

Phyla: "You blew up a star."
The HE: "It was the only way to be sure."

Adam, Phyla & the HE got out safely in one of Adam's bubbles, and the HE thinks they got Ultron. He directs them to the manufacturing plant the SI was setting up for him on Hala.

Meanwhile, Phyla's depressed at Moondragon's death, and depowered since she used the last of her energy on her mad charge at Ultron. Adam comments that the q-bands' jewels remind him of his Soul Gem, a minute before he has another seizure, triggered (according to the HE) by the proximity of the Babel Spire and the "lost souls" which power it. Despite the HE's confidence in Adam, the sphere fails in Hala's upper atmosphere, as Phyla yells that she "can't fly".

pg11-14
"The Kree Imperial Palace, Kree-Lar, ceded territories"

Ra-Venn and Super-Skrull block the throne-entrance Ronan went down, while the others - including Ravenous - go down into the basement to find 15000 Kree Sentries. Ronan plans to use Praxagora & Wraith's powers to prevent them from being taken over by the Phalanx like the ones in the Prologue.... and then use them to Annihilate Hala.

pg15-16
"Babel Spire, Hala"

Ultron begins to get frustrated at his lack of progress, as Mantis sees in his "memory stacks" that Earth is next... just as Ultron "sees" that it's her that is protecting Quill. Daystar confronts Mantis and Bug, as Ultron pops out finger-blades and decides that some physical duress is called for after all...

pg17-22
"Two miles over Hala" [to surface, to bunker]

Adam pulls himself together and catches Phyla, assuming the HE can take care of himself. When they land, he instinctively tracks where the HE landed, and - when he confesses he doesn't really understand his new powers - Phyla notes they seem to resemble magic. 

As they move, they're confronted by four Phalanx Seekers. After they despatch them, and Phyla moans about her broken sword despite Adam's reassurance, calling herself a "joke", he turns and says perhaps she IS a joke then, since it's all about "poor little her". When she says he was acting "the same way just hours ago", he admits it, but says that, after feeling the "raw agony of the lost Kree souls", he's going to "rid this world of Phalanx or die trying. How about you?" After she says she's with him, "for all the good [she]'ll be", he switches back to saying her father would be proud, and opens the door to the HE's bunker.

Inside, however, the HE's been got to by the Phalanx - and zaps Adam.

Goofs: 
The HE calls Phyla "Phylla-Vell".

Phyla can't fly here without functioning Q-bands, but she was flying around freely under her own power in ANNCONQ:Q 4 under similar circumstances.

Calendar notes:
It's been "just hours" since Adam was rehatched and had his self-pity fits.

Timeframe:
Same day.

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ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #5 (May 2008)
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Tom Raney
"In the Flesh"

Opening FB (pg 1)

Cast:
GOLIATH/HENRY PYM
IRON MAN/TONY STARK
ULTRON

"Earth, years ago"

Pym, in the red version of his Goliath costume (mask down, wearing a pair of goggles), reactivates Ultron's severed head with Iron Man looking on. He wants to know why Ultron attacked the Avengers - it's not what he programmed him to do. Ultron, claiming "or-ganic life is un-satisfactory... ar-tificial design is purity," manipulates the leads to try and strangle Pym as Iron Man raises his repulsors... [FB cuts off].

Second FB (on viewscreen only)

Cast:
"Mighty Avengers"

Repeated material from MA.

Third FB (pg 4)

Cast:
ULTRON
Phalanx, become Phalanx Scientists

"Unidentified
planet, beyond the limits of the Kree Empire, One month ago"

A Babel Spire picked up the banished Ultron's sentience, and uses their lack of focus to remake them as his servants, and the Phalanx interrogating him into Phalanx Scientists.

Fourth FB (pg11-13:4 + viewscreens on 13:5)
Cast:
KORATH THE PURSUER/KORATH-THAK
ULTRON
Phalanx soldiers
Kree soldiers
Spaceknights BTS

pg11
"Kree colony world Khan-Lar, three weeks ago"

Korath, investigating a destroyed colony with a squadron of Kree soldiers, runs into Ultron and a bunch of Phalanx Soldiers. Ultron claims Korath will be his first Select.

pg12-13:4 (+two bg screens in 13:5)
[The Kree ship]
As they break orbit, Ultron explains to Select Korath what he's been "selected for" - he means to give the Phalanx the ability to function with autonomy, and "capable individuals", their minds reprogrammed for Phalanx loyalty but with a degree of freedom within that, will help lead them.

Asking Korath why he was in the region, it was to meet the High Evolutionary - until Ultron's attack forced them to divert. Ultron's is interested by the possibilities of organic evolution by design rather than chance, and orders Korath to find the HE, who had gone into hiding during the Annihilation War.

One of the Kree grunts says they've received a signal from the Space Knight Restitution Initiative, asking if they can help with Khan-Lar. Ultron says... yes...

Main story:

Cast:
ADAM WARLOCK'S BODY (see precedent of "PROFESSOR X'S BODY" from when Cassa Nova was in charge of it)
BUG [KALIKLAK]
DAYSTAR [GALADORIAN] (dies)
GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS]
HIGH EVOLUTIONARY
MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID]
PRAXAGORA
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE]
RAVENOUS
ROCKET RACCOON
RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE]
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL
ULTRON (in Adam Warlock's body)
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]

Other characters:
various Phalanx Scientists
various Phalanx Soldiers


Summary:

pg2 & 4-5
"Secret Lab Complex, Hala, Now..."

The High Evolutionary views some random "key experiences" from Ultron's life on the viewscreen. Starting with the first FB, he sees how Ultron was banished, then demands to see "how Ultron and the Phalanx became conjoined," claiming it "may be crucial to the success of the transfer."

Meanwhile, Phyla is loudly complaining in the background the whole way. The HE says he had to co-operate or face assimilation, and "the High Evolutionary will not be tainted in such a fashion." Besides, he didn't kill Adam... and points out Ultron, in a half-cocoon, wired up to Adam's cocoon...

pg6-7
"The Babel Spire, Hala"

Bug puts his staff through Daystar ineffectively, and is being choked until Rocket shows up and blasts Daystar's head off. He claims he and Groot have "come up with a doozy" of a backup plan, and, as they go to grab Quill, he says Groot needs Mantis to do something...

pg8-10
"Kree Imperial Palace, Kree-Lar, ceded territories"

Ronan activates the Sentries, obliterating the Phalanx on Kree-Lar as a demo before sending them to Hala to obliterate the planet. He demands a "fast ship" from Ravenous to "witness what I have wrought."

pg13:5
[Lab Complex]

The High Evolutionary views the Selection of Korath, and how the HE had been "played every step of the way".

A Phalanx Scientist reports "the transfer is almost complete".

pg14-18
[Babel Spire]

Rocket and co. demonstrate "how [they] do things in the Raccooniverse" to the Phalanx standing over Star-Lord. They carry him out, and Rocket explains the plan - Groot's grown to fill a big chunk of the Spire, and Mantis is going to set him on fire (it's his idea, and Rocket took a cutting to regrow him later). 

They reach a balcony, Mantis sets Groot aflame, and they take a short jump from a great height...

pg19-22
[Lab Complex]

The transfer is complete, and Adam Warlock's cocoon bursts open... to reveal Ultron in his body. He casually blasts Phyla unconscious, and explains that he likes designed organic "mechanisms". Ultron says he'll let the HE go as promised... once he's created an army of Adam Warlocks for the Phalanx to all use...

Continuity notes:
I'm not sure exactly when the first flashback, with Goliath, Iron Man & Ultron, is supposed to take place as I can't find my reprints of those issues. Pym's in his red & blue Goliath suit, and Iron Man's in his classic armour.

Timeframe:
Still the same day.

I'll post #6 the post after next. But first...

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Jul 12, 2008 2:36 pm 
By Somebody
Director

NOVA v4 #10
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Wellinton Alves
"Vore"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (last in Nova v4 #9)
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (last in Nova v4 #9)
GAMORA [ZEN WHOBERIAN/Phalanx Select] (last in Nova v4 #9)
DRAX THE DESTROYER [Phalanx Select] (last in Nova v4 #9)

Other characters:
"Merchant caste Pachyceph Voidnaut" (unnamed, dies)
Adult Vore, and a lot of baby Vore (all unnamed, some die)

Summary:

pg1-11:1
Nova and still Select-Gamora wake up in each other's arms. A "THOOM" sound wakes them up, and they immediately back away from each other, followed by Gamora attempting to stab Rich, then shoot him, then back to stabbing. Rich tries to get her to stop, but it's not until he has a glowing hand against her throat that she does. Neither remember how they got there - Drax & Gamora had caught up with Rich, attacked him, and then neither remember anything until they woke up, nor know where they are. The Worldmind can't identify it either, although it can't do much scanning because it's so busy holding the transmode back.

There's loads of "wrecked starships, debris" around. Their teleport passports are blank, and Gamora is lacking her "precog tracking instinct" - she feels "numb, [her] senses dulled."

Another pair of THOOMs lead them to an injured "merchant caste Pachyceph Voidnaut". Just as Nova's about to try and help him, a bunch of glowy... giant amoebas... descend and smother him. Nova grabs Gamora, who's none too happy about being grabbed, and flies away, but they follow. The Worldmind can't tell him what they are, and he needs to stop and rest, as the infection takes its' toll. Gamora tells him to give in to it, and be with her again, and he angrily says he'll fight it, and brings up Ko-Rel's death at Gamora's godblade, and then why he left her to begin with...

pg11:2-11:3 (Flashback)

[i]Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER; GAMORA; PETER JASON QUILL; lots of Kree & bugs who die.

Nova, Gamora & Quill fight off a bunch of Kree collaborators. Nova puts Gamora in charge of interrogating them, as "a vital source of information that could have saved lives". She just kills them instead. Apparently, Nova avoided her as much as he could after that.

Notes: (flashback)

I'm confused as to when this takes place, because the whole thing doesn't seem to fit:
1) In Annihilation #1, they're still sleeping together
2) In Annihilation #3, he sure acts like he's getting dumped when she goes off
3) In Annihilation #4, when Gamora gives them some teleport tech, it's a very brief meeting
4) After Annihilation #6, until the armistice is signed, 

And there's also the matter of Gamora being coloured her traditional green in the flashback, when she was coloured blue-white throughout Annihilation even if she's back to green now[/i]

pg11:4-22

The amoeba-like things catch up with them. They start cutting/blasting/destroying them, until the WM tells Rich to break off - he doesn't have the power to spare - and leave Gamora behind (she's his sworn enemy, dedicated to killing him. Makes sense). He grabs her again anyway, which confuses everyone.

He heads for a vortex, hoping to get away, while he's clearly in pain, since he's using too much energy to hold the virus back. Once they're through the roughest part, he starts retching, and Gamora shouts that he's got to give in or it'll kill him - and even as he says "NO!", he vomits up metal, which stops the retching at least. She claims he's too stubborn, "so much better and truer than [her], and she stayed away from [HIM] in those last days" because he made her feel guilty. And she likes being a Select because she doesn't feel guilty any more.

The vortex dies away at this point, because the amoebae have showed up. WM pieces together what's going on - they're trapped inside a Vore, an extradimensional predator that snatched them as food for its' young (the amoebae-things). They're now in the birthing canal, and Rich asks for a full-strength shield as they get carried out with the young.

Now that they're safe, Gamora tries to stab Rich again. He knocks her out, spots Drax shooting at the Vore, and throws her at him before heading into teleport-space, back on the road to Kvch - although the WM would have preferred he kill the two of them.

Unfortunately, the transmode infection has become very aggressive. He's got a high fever, his body and costume are covered with transmode detailing, and the Worldmind estimates he's got less than two hours before the infection turns him or kills him....

Notes: 

Drax & Gamora caught up to Rich in the teleport stream between the end of last issue and the start of this, with the fight entirely off-panel. No sign of how long that took, or how long Nova & Gamora were out cold, but we're talking hours rather than days, and the issue itself progresses quickly too.

NOVA ANNUAL #1
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Mahmud A. Asrar; Wellinton Alves; "Klebs"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (last in Nova v4 #10)
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (last in Nova v4 #10)

Other characters:
A PHALANX.. thing

Summary:

pg1:1

Nova is "approximately 960 million light years from Earth" as he rockets towards Kvch. Feverish and in severe pain, his mind drifts...

pg30-36

He awakens in an airless cocoon, wires and circuits surrounding him inside and out. He realises the virus has been playing with his head, and the Worldmind finally reaches him, and he tells it to route him power, letting him burst out.

The Worldmind explains that he was so far gone, it induced a coma, but then couldn't wake him and he was nearly dead. Eventually, his dreams knocked him out of it.

He turns and sees the remains of the cocoon form into a huge, misshapen mirror of himself. He destroys it, but is still sick - although not in such imminent danger of death. He asks how far to Kvch, and the Worldmind says he's made it. This is Kvch.

Notes:

The present-day/"real" segment picks up almost directly from the end of NOVA4 10, and leads absolutely directly into NOVA4 11. How long passes in reality while Nova is comatose is unclear.

There's a segment set in the future that's complete fiction, and the segment set in the past, while a heavy homage to NOVA1 1, is also very twisted - the dialogue is different, Ginger wasn't a goth, and the football-guy didn't intervene just before Rich collapsed - and that's before the Phalanx stuff becomes involved and Rhomann Dey isn't dead. So none of the dreams count AFAICS.
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NOVA v4 #11
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Paul Pelletier
"Terminal"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (last in Nova Annual #1)
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND-VO (last in Nova Annual #1)
WARLOCK III [TECHNARCH] (last in Warlock (M-Tech) #9)
TYRO [TECHNARCH] (first appearance)
GAMORA [ZEN WHOBERIAN/Phalanx Select] (last in Nova v4 #10)
DRAX THE DESTROYER/ARTHUR DOUGLAS [Phalanx Select] (last in Nova v4 #10)

Other characters:
picture of New Mutants (Cannonball, Warlock, Cypher, Magma, Karma, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Magik)
picture of New Mutants (Cannonball, Karma, Magma, Wolfsbane) vs. Magus [Technarch]
Unnamed SIREDAM

Flashback to Warlock rocketing through space

Summary:

pg1-9
[Kvch, surface]

Rich asks the Worldmind to "say that again". The WM reiterates that its' Kvch. And then to reiterate that there's no lifesigns. The WM confirms that the planet is dead. Rich says then, so is he.

After a few moments of detail, the WM suddenly detects movement 28km away, and discover a "massive machine entity" that the Worldmind can't scan. It then starts fighting another one - but as Nova tries to get away, his transmode infection flares into overdrive, and he starts to explode into circuitry.

At that moment, one of the MMEs notices the "alien lifeglow" and orders the other one to stand down. When it doesn't, it blasts it, and tells "Tyro" that "self meant it", as it shrinks and changes shape, becoming recognisable as Warlock, back in his original form. Seeing Nova's technorgified body melting into the surface, he expresses concern...

pg10-13

Nova, recomposed into a broadly normal shape, wakes up on a wheeled transport, with Warlock standing over him. Nova feels sick, and doesn't recognise Warlock until the rebooting Worldmind gives him a pointer. Warlock gave him "a little lifeglow to boost [him]", and apologises - the Phalanx virus became critically agitated in the presence of "technarchology". He can't do more without, "you know, killing self." Rich is disappointed to hear Warlock can't control or cure his virus, but Warlock says "It is not quite as simple as that. Not anymore." He's busy trying to "redeem [his] stagnating race".
Once they reach the crche, Tyro comes up, in a form (very) loosely patterned after Warlock, and is angry at Warlock for stopping the drill and wants to take "the meat thing's" lifeglow. Warlock says no, and introduces Tyro as his adoptive son. He'd given Tyro his non-aggressive version of the transmode virus, and is trying to raise Tyro to be like him.

Nova still wants Warlock to save the Kree, but Warlock says it would take all his own lifeglow just to save Nova, and he's sworn the Technarchy won't take lifeglow ever again.

pg14-16
"Three and a half thousand kilometres away"

Drax & Gamora land on Kvch - and promptly, involuntarily, turn into a Babel Spire and send out a signal...

pg17-22
[Crche]

Warlock explains his history, with the aid of pictures of his New Mutants (oddly excluding Moonstar - is this a reference to a specific story?), and some of the New Mutants fighting Magus. Eventually, he decided to return to Kvch and work to save his race (skipping over the death/Douglock/Warlock-with-Doug's-memories bits)

Tyro moans the whole way through.

Warlock says he doesn't have the power to help Nova, and he won't rob it from one lifeform to save another. He also hopes he has at least a decade to train Tyro before his actual siredam turns up to challenge him. Challenged further, Warlock's guilty, but asks if Nova would put saving the Kree above saving the human race, and Nova's forced to admit he would choose his own kind. He turns to leave, when the Babel Spire starts to drive Tyro crazy. Warlock begins to feel it, "though not as intensely", and scans for it. Nova picks out Drax & Gamora from the spire. Warlock realises it will summon "a Siredam. The Spire they have made is summoning a fully mature technarch. All is lost."

Continuity notes:
The three pictures in this issue - displayed by Warlock as FBs, despite him appearing in him - are of a NM lineup featuring Cannonball, Warlock, Cypher, Magma, Karma, Sunspot, Wolfsbane and Magik (all in original-NM outfits). The second is of Cannonball, Karma, Magma and Wolfsbane fighting Warlock's dadmummy, the Magus (still all in original-NM outfits). I can't place either of these due to unfamiliarity with the original NM series, and don't know if the absence of Moonstar is a clue to place the first picture with the second.

The third is simpler, and is of Warlock rocketing through space (in classic/current form, rather than the Ferry-designed form from his series), and the context makes it clear that it's placed between his last appearance (that series) and this issue. No explanation is given for his lack of Cypher-traits, or his reversion to his original form and speech pattern (and given that DnA have drawn significantly from the M-Tech series' retcons of the Phalanx's origins for Conquest, including in this issue they're obviously aware of it).

Notes: 
Picks up directly from the Annual, and leads directly into #12.

Timeframe:
Same day as Nova Annual #1. A couple of hours, tops.
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NOVA v4 #12
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Paul Pelletier
"Inheritance"

Cast:
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (next in Annihilation: Conquest #6)
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND (next in Annihilation: Conquest #6)
WARLOCK III [TECHNARCH] (next in Annihilation: Conquest #6)
TYRO [TECHNARCH] (next in Annihilation: Conquest #6)
GAMORA [ZEN WHOBERIAN] (next in Annihilation: Conquest #6)
DRAX THE DESTROYER/ARTHUR DOUGLAS (next in Annihilation: Conquest #6)

Other characters:
Unnamed SIREDAM

Summary:

pg1-4:1
[Space to] "Kvch, the Technarchy homeworld"

The Siredam, drawn by the Drax/Gamora Babel Spire, flies rapidly to Kvch and starts tunnelling down, aiming to kill Tyro.

pg4:2-17
"Crche Terminal, far below the surface" [to surface]

This leaves Warlock very depressed.

Tyro, meanwhile, is desperate to fight.

And Nova is helpless, with his T-O flaring up.

Warlock tries to persuade them to flee, but Nova weakly says they wouldn't get far. Warlock asks how, and Nova says he's "got the entire N-Nova Force inside [him]... f-for all the good it's doing [him] right now."

Tyro is into raving lunatic mode by this point, but Warlock checks him and orders him to go, with his "last command" to him. Tyro, calmed, says he won't forget him and goes.

Nova, meanwhile, is melting into circuitry once more. Warlock asks if he will promise to hold the Siredam for as long as he can, gives him all his lifeglow, and falls, dark.

The Worldmind reboots just as the siredam crashes through the ceiling, and Nova, suddenly cured thanks to Warlock's sacrifice, flies it straight back out again.

Once the Worldmind tells him that Warlock must have cured him, Nova says he made him a promise, and he always keeps his promises... at which point the WM points out that (a) even at full power, he can't win and (b) he promised to keep the Worldmind, as the last repository of all of Xandar's culture and knowledge, safe. Rich doesn't have an answer to that one.

The fight goes on, and just as the Worldmind estimates they have 46 minutes before it catches and kills them, Tyro shows up, saying "Pathetic Meat Thing" won't shame him, and promptly gets torn in half and eaten.

As the Worldmind's telling Rich to go, and Nova's claiming he's going to kill the siredam ("You can't"), the giant Technarch convulses. The WM notes its' energy profile is altering rapidly... and Tyro's voice comes out of the Siredam's oversized mouth. Tyro says he'd intended to use Warlock's transmode virus to try and convert the Siredam, but it's "feral personality could not cope with the viral overwrite. It perished and Tyroself found himself in control".

pg18-19
"Twenty-four minutes later..."

Nova, having finally found Warlock's body, brings him up for Tyro to revive using the Siredam's immense lifeglow reserves. Warlock is alternately confused, scared and confused again as he's filled in on what happened.

Afterward, Nova has a request of his own - would Tyro cure Gamora & Drax, please.

pg20-22

Once Tyro's done it, the reconstituted Drax is ornery as ever; but Gamora is shocked and panicked, feeling "worthless" without the "true purpose" from being a Select, Rich hugs her, and Drax walks off, and finds himself in Tyro's immense shadow.

Nova tells him to stand down. Meanwhile, Warlock brings up Nova's request for help from earlier, and Nova says that if it's an offer of help, he'll take it.

Continuity notes:
Leads out of NO4 11, and ends with a "to be concluded in Annihilation: Conquest #6", note, where Nova stargates the five of them to the barrier.

Timeframe:
Same day as Nova #11. A hour.

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Jul 12, 2008 2:43 pm 
By Somebody
Director

And finally, for the analyses...

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #6 (Jun 2008)
Writers: Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (hereafter "DnA")
Art: Wellinton Alves (prologue & epilogue) and Tom Raney (main story)
"Last Stand"

Cast:
ADAM WARLOCK (next in Guardians of the Galaxy v2 #1)
BUG [KALIKLAK] 
DRAX THE DESTROYER/ARTHUR DOUGLAS (last in Nova v4 #12, next in GOTG2 1)
GAMORA [ZEN WHOBERIAN] (last in Nova v4 #12, next in GOTG2 1)
GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS] (another kind-of death, next in GOTG2 1)
HIGH EVOLUTIONARY 
MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID] (next in GOTG2 1)
NOVA/RICHARD RIDER (last in Nova v4 #12, next in GOTG2 1)
XANDARIAN WORLDMIND-VO (last in Nova v4 #12, possibly next BTS in GOTG2 1, otherwise next in NOVA4 13)
PRAXAGORA (dies)
QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE] (next in GOTG2 1)
RA-VENN [KREE]
ROCKET RACCOON (next in GOTG2 1)
RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE]
STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL (next in GOTG2 1)
SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT [SKRULL]
TYRO [TECHNARCH] (last in Nova v4 #12)
ULTRON (dies... allegedly)
WARLOCK III [TECHNARCH] (last in Nova v4 #12)
WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]

Other characters:
CHELL-TEK [KREE]
Spartoi Commander (unnamed)
Various Rigellians
Unidentified Spaceknight
various Phalanx Soldiers
Phalanx Stomper
?? MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS ??
various Kree

Summary:

Prologue, pg1-4
"Outside the Energy Barrier imprisoning Kree Space"

Badoon, Spartoi, Rigellian, Galadorian and the odd Kree ship that was outside the Kree galaxy during the Prologue have been trying to breach the Kree Barrier for "nearly a month". With only complete failure to report.

Suddenly, one of the Spartoi ships detects a gravimetric Stargate - Nova, Gamora, Drax, the Technarch Warlock and Tyro are 'gating in from NO4 12. Nova tells them it's the Phalanx that have the Kree and he's "escorting personnel vital to the liberation of the Kree".

The Worldmind scans that the barrier's been weakened, and Warlock confirms it, saying he & Tyro will be able to get through. They go in.

pg5-11:2
"Hala, the Babel Spire"

Everything's on fire, and Quill, Rocket Raccoon and Bug are saying their last words as they fall to their deaths (Rocket: "I REGRET NOTHING!"). Mantis, meanwhile, teeps the dying Groot one last request - and Groot spawns off a branch quickly to save them, just before he expires. Rocket nervously says that he's got a cutting, surely they can regrow him. Quill has a victory moment, tempered with the knowledge that Gabe & Groot died in the process, and Mantis says that she knew three people were going to die, but he wouldn't have done it if he'd known. After a moment, he suddenly picks up on the "three", and asks if she's counting Deathcry. She says no, "this is the part where Ultron teleports in and hits [her]".

"Krak"

Ultron-Warlock quickly knocks Rocket & Bug out, and prepares to kill Quill... just as Nova zooms in and throws Ultron into a wall (the Worldmind confirming his true ID). Ultron punches Nova back, but the OTHER Warlock proceeds to jump in and whack him one, with Drax, Gamora & Tyro taking Phalanx Soldiers & Stompers down in the background.

pg11:3-12:2
[Lab Complex/bunker entrance]

Meanwhile, the HE takes the chance, amidst the general chaos, to teleport away with the cocoons.

pg12:3-13
[Inside the Lab Complex]

Phyla, waking up, has a vision of Moondragon ("I think your imagination is running away with you, Phy. I'm not really here. I'm dead."), which tells her the bands are refuelling, and Adam Warlock's soul fled into them when Ultron ousted him from his body.

pg14
"The Edge of the Hala System"

Ronan & co prepare to destroy Hala with their fleet of Sentries.

pg15-20
"Hala"

Bug & Rocket wake up, Quill checks that Mantis is breathing ("barely"), and all hell is breaking loose around them.

Ultron (still in Adam Warlock's body) continues to fight Warlock, but Warlock causes Ultron to flee Adam's body when he infects him with his version of the T-O virus.

Phyla chooses that moment to fly in, to stick Adam back into place, while Worldmind scans for Ultron. Adam's more assured after his time "away from the distractions of a physical existence", and leads the charge.

pg21-24:3
"Above Hala"

Those on Ronan's ship pick up the fight on the ground, and Ra-Venn tells Ronan to call it off. He refuses to... but then Praxagora does, before announcing that Ultron's in charge, and zapping Wraith. He tells them to "enjoy your last moments" and goes... overloading her "internal fusion core" in the process.

Boom.

Super-Skrull saves the others in an Invisible Woman force field, but she's gone, and Ronan tells him to get them down there...

pg24:4-33
[Hala]

...as the now Ultron-controlled Sentries give Peter Quill a big feeling of deja vu.

This time though, instead of forming a Babel Spire, they form a "Giant. Killer. Robot."

Giant Ultron tells the Phalanx to wipe everyone out. However, Adam Warlock & Phyla fly up and - with a quick bit of help from Wraith to lock him in that body - destroy him Power Rangers-style.

On the ground, with him gone, the Phalanx have turned into statues, Warlock celebrates, but Nova points out there are a lot of people that need help...

Epilogue, pg34-36
[Some time later...]

T-Warlock, Tyro & Wraith are slowly going round purging the "remaining Phalanx taint", Ronan's haunted by what he nearly did, Quill's having discussions with Nova, Gamora & Drax; Bug's mooning over a comatose Mantis, Rocket's watering his cutting of Groot, and Phyla's writing a letter to Moondragon as narration for it, before being interrupted by Adam Warlock, who's been asked to get her and come to a meeting with Quill for "some venture he has in mind" - Warlock now "knows" why he's been reborn, and is happy to meet with him.

Phyla says it would be a pleasure, but stops by Moondragon's grave first to leave the letter.


Continuity notes:
I'm not clear on whether that was Moondragon's ghost or just a hallucination of Phyla's - it seems to say it's a hallucination, but would Phyla know the info it imparted?

Goofs: 
The Quantum Bands (which, as they were effectively created by Mark Gruenwald, are probably the most extensively documented things in the MU for this kind of thing) don't bloody work like that...


Calendar notes: 

Okay, the six issues of the Annihilation: Conquest series itself take about a day, tops (exc. the Epilogue).

Last issue, Korath was Ultron/Phalanx's first Select "three weeks ago", which HAS to be before the Prologue (since Gamora was Selected before the Prologue). Yet here, it's "nearly a month" since the barrier went up. I'm leaning towards the timings from ANNCONQ 5, and a span of sixteen days between the Prologue and ANNCONQ 6 (33) - not least since it's awkward stretching Nova #4-12 out to sixteen days, let alone longer.

I'm... not entirely sure how the Adam Warlock/Phyla part of the epilogue works with the Guardians of the Galaxy v2 #1 flashbacks. In GOTG2 1, Quill meets with Phyla and Nova to try and sell them on the GotG concept "one day" after the end of Conquest. It seems to be played, on Quill's part, as the first time he's tried to sell it to anyone. Adam Warlock's not seen in the GOTG2 1 FBs until "five days" after the end of Conquest, by which time he's already been briefed/sold on it, and he's doing the final pitch to the various members himself (Phyla having recruited Drax herself at Moondragon's graveside two days earlier/"three days" after Conquest). It's not irreconcilable, but it all makes the scene here, in ANNCONQ 6, a tad awkward - either AW gets the sales pitch solo, while Phyla's visiting Moondragon's grave and before Quill's old Annihilation comrades; or Phyla's having a blonde moment between two and five days after Conquest wherein she momentarily forgets what Quill's current driving force is.

Timeframe:
Same day as ANNCONQ:Q 2-4, ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4, ANNCONQ 1-5, NO4 10-12 and NO@ 1. [Long day...]. One day for (1-33), the epilogue is a bit trickier as I mention.

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Jul 12, 2008 2:45 pm 
By Somebody
Director

Okay, this only includes issues published as part of Conquest - the Prologue, the three lead-in miniseries, Nova v4 #4-12+@1, and Conquest #1-6 - and only scenes from those issues which take place in the Conquest timeframe. I've left out descriptions in most cases since the analyses are just above 

Conquest Day-10
-------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #5-FB (4)
"One Month Ago" (to Conquest #5)
_________________________

Conquest Day-3
-----------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #5-FB (11-13)
"Three Weeks Ago" (to Conquest #5)
_________________________

Conquest Day-3 to Day-1
----------------------------

[BTS] |cf ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #1|
Ultron stops using a physical body.

[BTS] |cf NOVA v4 #4|
Gamora is Selected by Ultron's Phalanx.

[BTS] |cf ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #1|
Wraith enters Kree space.
_________________________

Conquest Day
---------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - PROLOGUE (1-30)
The same day as NO4 3.

NOVA v4 #4 (1)
The same day as ("twelve minutes" after) NO4 3 and the same day as ANNCONQ:PRO (1-30).

ANNIHILATION CONQUEST: PROLOGUE (31) ~ NOVA v4 #4 (2)
The same day as NO4 4 (1).

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - PROLOGUE (32-43)
The same day as ANNCONQ:PRO (31).

[BTS] |cf ANNCONQ:STARLORD #1|
Peter Quill is recovered & taken to Adalon Prime on Ronan's orders for treatment

NOVA v4 #4 (3-22)
The same day as ANNCONQ:PRO (32-43). It is "a year" after the Annihilation Wave.

NOVA v4 #5
The same day as NO4 4 (3-22).

NOVA v4 #6
The same day as NO4 5. This story occurs "a few days" before NO4 7.
_________________________

Conquest Day+1
------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #1 (4-7:1)


ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #1 (1-7)


ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #1 (7:2-19)
"Four hours" after ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1 (4-7:1). The day before ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1 (20-22) ["You're gone by this time tomorrow", later sequence shows them preparing to depart].

_________________________

Conquest Day+2
------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #1 (20-22)
The day after ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1 (4-19).
_________________________

Conquest Day+3
------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #2

_________________________

Conquest Day+4
------------------

[BTS] |cf ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH 1|
Ronan is taken and Selected by the Phalanx

_________________________

Conquest Day+5
------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #1 (8-21)
"Four days" after ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1 (1-7)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #3
"Two days" after ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #4 (1-19:2)


ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #1 (22)

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Conquest Day+6
------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #2 (1-9)
Wraith "meets" Super-Skrull, Phalanx review Wraith, Ronan starts torturing Wraith.

NOVA v4 #7 (1-20): ALTERNATE 1, part 1
One day, "a few days" after NOVA4 6.
Alternate 1 placement assumes that Nova, Drax & Gamora get spit forward a week as a side-effect of the wormhole travel - lost and with no reference to an external, absolute clock, they wouldn't notice until after the Conquest #6 battle. Alternate 2 stretches the "few days" where he's a Select by the same week, and keeps the issue as one block
_________________________

Conquest Day+8
------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - STAR-LORD #4 (19:3-22)
_________________________

Conquest Day+11
-------------------

NOVA v4 #9-FB (1-3:2)
"Three nights" before NO4 9 (4-17).
_________________________

Conquest Day+12
-------------------

NOVA v4 #9-FB (3:3-3:4)
"The next day" after NO4 9-FB (1-3:2)
_________________________

Conquest Day+13
-------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #2 (10-22)
"Days" after ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2 (1-9)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #3
Same day as ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2 (10-22)

NOVA v4 #7 (21-22): ALTERNATE 1, part 2
Having been spurted forward in time a week as an unintended and unnoticed side-effect of their wormhole travel, Nova lands in a area of space the Worldmind is completely unfamiliar with - they're lost. Two light years away, Selects Gamora & Drax - also dragged through the Wormhole - swear to find & silence Nova.

NOVA v4 #7: ALTERNATE 2
One day, "a few days" (taken loosely) after NOVA4 6.
Alternate 1 placement assumes that Nova, Drax & Gamora get spit forward a week as a side-effect of the wormhole travel - lost and with no reference to an external, absolute clock, they wouldn't notice until after the Conquest #6 battle. Alternate 2 stretches the "few days" where he's a Select by the same week, and keeps the issue as one block
_________________________

Conquest Day+14
-------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #1 (1-11)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #3-FB (3:3-3:4)
Same day as ANNCONQ:Q 1 (1-11)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #1 (12-16)
Same day as ANNCONQ:Q 1 (1-11) and ANNCONQ:Q 3-FB (3:3-3:4)

NOVA v4 #8

NOVA v4 #9 (4-17)
Same day as NO4 8.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #1 (17)
Night has fallen in the Sanctuary (exact time passage is unclear).
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Conquest Day+15
-------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #1 (18-22)
"Three Hours" after ANNCONQ:Q 1 (17) [assuming a midnight break during those hours]

NOVA v4 #9 (18-20)
"Twenty-four hours" after NO4 (4-17).

NOVA v4 #9 (21-22)
"Two hours" after NO4 9 (18-20)

[BTS] |cf NOVA v4 #10|
Drax & Gamora catch up with Rich in the teleport stream, but during the ensuing fight, Gamora & Rich are pulled into a Vore.
_________________________

Conquest Day+16
-------------------

NOVA v4 #10
Presumed day after #9 (time for Gamora & Drax to catch up with Nova, time for the fight, time for Gamora & Nova to lie unconscious in the vore)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #2

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #3 (1-9)
Same day as ANNCONQ:Q 2. (picks up directly)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #3 (10-22)
"One Hour" after ANNCONQ:Q 3 (1-9)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - QUASAR #4
Same day as ANNCONQ:Q 3 (10-22)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #4 (1-20)
Simultaneous with ANNCONQ:Q 4.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #1 (1-19)
Same day as ANNCONQ:Q 4 (picks up directly)

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST - WRAITH #4 (21-22)
It claims to be "Two Days Later", but it can't be more than two hours, if that. Ronan, Ra-Venn, Super-Skrull and Praxagora plot their next move, while Wraith reflects on holding the Supreme Intelligence's soul in the Exolon.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #1 (20-26)
Ronan, Super-Skrull, Wraith, Ra-Venn and Praxagora take a small ship to Kree-Lar, looking for "the Salvation of the Kree race" there. K'Lrt just thinks they'll get killed, and is seemingly proven right when they're shot out of the sky. 

Meanwhile, Adam & co enter the Refuge, where the High Evolutionary has been working on "Nu-Kree", and greets his "son".

And finally, Korath, Statterax and Xemnu report to the Babel Spire, and the central core of the Phalanx then kills Korath for his failure, before taking a physical form - Ultron.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #2
Same day as ANNCONQ 1

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #3
Same day as ANNCONQ 2

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #4
Same day as ANNCONQ 3

NOVA ANNUAL #1
Must occur less than "two hours" after NO4 10. Nova is "aproximately 960 million light years from Earth" as he rockets towards Kvch. Feverish and in severe pain, his mind drifts, and he dreams of a twisted version of his origin, and a possible future. Eventually, he awakens in an airless cocoon, wires and circuits surrounding him inside and out. He realises the virus has been playing with his head, and the Worldmind finally reaches him, and he tells it to route him power, letting him burst out. The Worldmind explains that he was so far gone, it induced a coma, but then couldn't wake him and he was nearly dead. Eventully, his dreams knocked him out of it. He turns and sees the remains of the cocoon form into a huge, misshapen mirror of himself. He destroys it, but is still sick - although not in such imminent danger of death. He asks how far to Kvch, and the Worldmind says he's made it. This is Kvch.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #5
Same day as ANNCONQ 4

NOVA v4 #11
Same day as NO@ 1 (picks up directly).

NOVA v4 #12
Same day as NO4 11.

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #6 (1-33)
Same day as ANNCONQ 5 and NO4 12.
_______________

Conquest Day+17 and later
------------------------------

ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST #6 (34-36)
Some time later. See notes in Conquest #6 analysis.

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Jul 12, 2008 3:03 pm 
By Somebody
Director

I have draft MCP-style listings for everyone, but there's a few points I'd like to settle before I post it.

1) The Ultron/Adam Warlock switcheroonie. If someone could answer my question on how to format that (see Body-only appearances in MU), I'd be most grateful.

2) Ultron in general - does he get a BTS every time a Phalanx is on-panel and he's not?

3) Moondragon. Is that her ghost or a hallucination in ANNCONQ 6 (it seems to be ambiguous), and so does she get a listing for it? I'm not sure, and other thoughts would be appreciated.

4) Dragon of the Moon. It gets BTSes for ANNCONQ:Q 1 & 2, since it's what's causing Moondragon's headaches. Does it continue to get BTSes after she "embraces" it and transforms into a literal dragon, since that's its' influence at work?

5) Supreme Intelligence - there's VO appearances of its' ghost, BTS (or OP?) appearances of its' ghost and appearances of its' corpse during the Prologue, ANNCONQ:Q and ANNCONQ:WRAITH, with a ghost-appearance in ANNCONQ:Q 4, and a simultaneously-set corpse-appearance/BTS ghost-appearance in Wraith #4. How the hell does it get listed for all that?

6) Annihilus - similar question. There's the... psychic residue... of him that's on the Q-bands and periodically takes Phyla over during ANNCONQ:Q until Quasar takes it away for her in ANNCONQ:Q 4. Does that count as an OP for the real Annihilus?

7) I can't place Moondragon's various flashbacks to her early life, death & resurrection in ANNCONQ:Q 2 & 3. Anyone prepared to try?

8) How does stuff on TVs (and similar) get listed for panel ranges (and do they count as FBs?). Given that the Mighty Avengers stuff in ANNCONQ 5 appears to be repeats, there's two sets of instances of new info - one, later in ANNCONQ 5, continues a straight FB onto screens in the background of the next panel, and there's also Warlock's visual-aid FBs in NO4 11.

And any questions for me Re: any of the analyses, etc above?

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Jul 13, 2008 2:54 am 
By Col_Fury
Director

At least half of this can be prefaced with "As I Understand It": Somebody wrote:
1) The Ultron/Adam Warlock switcheroonie.Since it's only the one issue, I'd say BTS for Adam and a full appearance for Ultron. Somebody wrote:
2) Ultron in general - does he get a BTS every time a Phalanx is on-panel and he's not?Well, he's directly controlling the Phalanx group-mind, everything they do is in direct relation to what he thinks, so I would say 'yes'. Somebody wrote:
3) Moondragon. Is that her ghost or a hallucination in ANNCONQ 6 (it seems to be ambiguous), and so does she get a listing for it? I'm not sure, and other thoughts would be appreciated.I could go either way... I guess it will be decided in how or if she ever appears again. Which doesn't help us at the moment. *shrug* Hallucination? Somebody wrote:
4) Dragon of the Moon. It gets BTSes for ANNCONQ:Q 1 & 2, since it's what's causing Moondragon's headaches. Does it continue to get BTSes after she "embraces" it and transforms into a literal dragon, since that's its' influence at work?I would say no... maybe a 'See Moondragon' note at the end of it's chronology? Somebody wrote:
5) Supreme Intelligence - there's VO appearances of its' ghost, BTS (or OP?) appearances of its' ghost and appearances of its' corpse during the Prologue, ANNCONQ:Q and ANNCONQ:WRAITH. How the hell does it get listed for all that?Actual appearances when the ghost shows up, VO when we only hear the ghost's voice, BTS for just the corpse. If we see the ghost & the corpse in the same issue, full appearance, if we hear the voice and see the corpse, VO appearance. Somebody wrote:
6) Annihilus - similar question. There's the... psychic residue... of him that's on the Q-bands and periodically takes Phyla over during ANNCONQ:Q until Quasar takes it away for her in ANNCONQ:Q 4. Does that count as an OP for the real Annihilus?He's affecting the characters, it's a part of him, but it's not quite him, I'd say BTS. Somebody wrote:
7) I can't place Moondragon's various flashbacks to her early life, death & resurrection in ANNCONQ:Q 2 & 3. Anyone prepared to try?Sorry, not me. Somebody wrote:
8) How does stuff on TVs (and similar) get listed for panel ranges (and do they count as FBs?). Given that the Mighty Avengers stuff in ANNCONQ 5 appears to be repeats, there's two sets of instances of new info - one, later in ANNCONQ 5, continues a straight FB onto screens in the background of the next panel, and there's also Warlock's visual-aid FBs in NO4 11.Even though it's not the full panel, I would say whatever page/panel the TV-FB is presented on. Somebody wrote:
And any questions for me Re: any of the analyses, etc above?From Quasar #3:Somebody wrote:
ADAM WARLOCK (in cocoon - BTS?)I was about to say full appearance, but then I checked his chronology and he gets a BTS for FF 66, even though he's inside it. He didn't get a full appearance until he emerged in FF 67, so I guess that's the precedent. 

From Conquest #5:Somebody wrote:
I'm not sure exactly when the first flashback, with Goliath, Iron Man & Ultron, is supposed to take place as I can't find my reprints of those issues. Pym's in his red & blue Goliath suit, and Iron Man's in his classic armour.Avengers 57 is the defeat of Ultron and his head is knocked off. It's last seen being kicked around by some kid. Avengers 58 is the dealing with Vision issue, and by Avengers 59 Hank's in the Yellowjacket suit.(and crazy!) From this FlashBack it looks like the Avengers found Ultron's head, so I would say between issue 57 & 58: 

GOLIATH/HANK PYM

A 57
*ANNCONQ 5-FB
SUB-M 8-FB (what happens here?)
A 58 
A: EMH2 1 (1-5:4) 
A 280 (14:5-14:7)-FB 
...

IRON MAN/ANTHONY EDWARD "TONY" STARK

IM 6
*ANNCONQ 5-FB
A 58 
A: EMH2 1
...

ULTRON
...
A 57
*ANNCONQ 5 (1)-FB
A 66
...

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 18, 2008 9:12 pm 
By Russ Chappell
ADMINISTRATOR

Standard disclaimer ("I haven't read the book") applies.

Somebody wrote:
I have draft MCP-style listings for everyone, but there's a few points I'd like to settle before I post it.

1) The Ultron/Adam Warlock switcheroonie. If someone could answer my question on how to format that (see Body-only appearances in MU), I'd be most grateful.

2) Ultron in general - does he get a BTS every time a Phalanx is on-panel and he's not?

Yes, if Ultron is directly controlling the actions of another character. In the case of a worldmind like the Phalanx, chronological placements across multiple titles can get pretty hairy, but....that's our job, I guess.


3) Moondragon. Is that her ghost or a hallucination in ANNCONQ 6 (it seems to be ambiguous), and so does she get a listing for it? I'm not sure, and other thoughts would be appreciated.

We should err on the side of assuming that it is an actual appearance by her ghost, and thus, she would get a listing, until such time as we are proven wrong.


4) Dragon of the Moon. It gets BTSes for ANNCONQ:Q 1 & 2, since it's what's causing Moondragon's headaches. Does it continue to get BTSes after she "embraces" it and transforms into a literal dragon, since that's its' influence at work?

My inclination would be to say No, since, as I understand it, Dragon of the Moon has no direct control of Moondragon, or direct impact on the story.


5) Supreme Intelligence - there's VO appearances of its' ghost, BTS (or OP?) appearances of its' ghost and appearances of its' corpse during the Prologue, ANNCONQ:Q and ANNCONQ:WRAITH, with a ghost-appearance in ANNCONQ:Q 4, and a simultaneously-set corpse-appearance/BTS ghost-appearance in Wraith #4. How the hell does it get listed for all that?

Corpses and ghosts are the same, for our purposes. They are both actual appearances of the character. If we don't see the character/ghost/corpse, but "see" their dialog, on panel, it's a VO (voice over) appearance. If we neither see nor "hear" them, but they are literally there, just out of the camera's "view", then it's an OP (off-panel) appearance. If they don't actually appear in any shape or fashion, but have a direct impact on a character or the story, it's a BTS appearance.

OP trumps BTS; VO trumps OP; actual appearance trumps everything.


6) Annihilus - similar question. There's the... psychic residue... of him that's on the Q-bands and periodically takes Phyla over during ANNCONQ:Q until Quasar takes it away for her in ANNCONQ:Q 4. Does that count as an OP for the real Annihilus?

Psychic residue? Sounds like BTS to me.


8) How does stuff on TVs (and similar) get listed for panel ranges (and do they count as FBs?). Given that the Mighty Avengers stuff in ANNCONQ 5 appears to be repeats, there's two sets of instances of new info - one, later in ANNCONQ 5, continues a straight FB onto screens in the background of the next panel, and there's also Warlock's visual-aid FBs in NO4 11.


Assuming it's not live tv, it's a flashback. And I would just use whatever page and panel the tv is in. When we use page and panel breakdowns, they're only intended as a "marker", if you will, for people who have the story in front of them (they serve no practical purpose, for those people who don't have the story), and as such, it's readily apparent to anyone with the book in front of them that the flashback in question is referring to the scene on the television.


watching: kraa, the tomato that conquered the world

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Jul 25, 2008 11:32 am 
By Somebody
Director

And so, to those listings...

ABYSS II
NO4 9 (1-3)-FB-OP
{NO4 8}-OP-VO
NO4 9-OP-VO

ANNIHILUS [ARTHROSIAN]
[...]
ANN 6
ANNCONQ:Q 1-BTS
ANNCONQ:Q 2-BTS
ANNCONQ:Q 3-BTS
ANNCONQ:Q 4-BTS (NB: ghostly/psychic residue rendered as image of Annihilus)

BLASTAAR [BALUURAN]
[...]
ANN 5
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4

BUG [KALIKLAK]
[...]
CM5 16
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 7]

CAPTAIN UNIVERSE/GABRIEL VARGAS [HUMAN]
[...]
CU/SS
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4 (strictly, should be VARGAS, GABRIEL from this point on)
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3

CHAN-DAR, CAPTAIN [KREE]
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4

CHELL-TEK [KREE]
ANNCONQ 6

CHIEF YAN [KREE]
NO4 4
NO4 5
NO4 6 (corpse)

COSMO [DOG; GOLDEN RETRIEVER/LABRADOR CROSS]
NO4 9 (1-3)-FB
{NO4 8}
NO4 9
[GOTG2 1-FB]

CRATER [XARTHIAN]
NO4 9-FB
NO4 9 (1-3)
NO4 8

CYNOSURE [XARTHIAN]
NO4 9 (1-3)-FB
NO4 8
NO4 9

DAYSTAR [GALADORIAN]
ANNCONQ:PRO
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5

DEATHCRY [SHI'AR]
[...]
H:HU
A3 1-BTS
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2

DIMPLES [KREE]
NO4 4
NO4 5

DISCHARGE [XARTHIAN]
NO4 9 (1-3)-FB
NO4 8
NO4 9

DRAGON OF THE MOON
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (7:2-8:1)-FB (may be repeated material)
ANNCONQ:Q 3 (3:2)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (8:2-8:3)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (9:1)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (9:2)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 1-BTS
ANNCONQ:Q 2-BTS

DRAX/ARTHUR DOUGLAS
[...]
ANN 6
NO4 6
NO4 7
NO4 9
NO4 10
NO4 11
NO4 12
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

ELYSIUS [TITAN]
[...]
CM6 18
ANNCONQ:Q 1-FB
[...?]

ESS [KREE]
NO4 5

FALLEN ONE
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1-FB
(Thanos series)

FAZE II [XARTHIAN]
NO4 9 (1-3)-FB
{NO4 8}
NO4 9

FLAGPOLE [KREE]
NO4 4
NO4 5

GALEN-KOR, KREE INTELLIGENCE FIRST-TIER ADMIRAL [KREE]
[...]
A3 7
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1

GAMORA [ZEN WHOBERIAN]
[...]
ANN:RO 4
NO4 10-FB (Best guess. As I say, this doesn't seem to fit...)
ANN 1
[...]
ANN 6
NO4 4
NO4 5
NO4 6
NO4 7
NO4 9
NO4 10
NO4 11
NO4 12
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

GOLIATH/HENRY PYM
[...]
ANNCONQ 5 (1)-FB
[...]

GROOT [FLORA COLOSSUS]
[...]
[Nick Fury's Howling Commandos #6]
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

HIGH EVOLUTIONARY
[...]
(X-Men: Endangered Species backups)
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[UX 500]

IRON MAN/TONY STARK
[...]
ANNCONQ 5 (1)-FB
[...]

KORATH THE PURSUER/KORATH-THAK [KREE]
[...]
ANNCONQ 5 (11-13:5)-FB
ANNCONQ 1

LIGHTSTORM [GALADORIAN]
NO4 5

MANTIS/? BRANDT [HUMAN/PLANT HYBRID]
[...]
A:CQ 8*
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]
(Re: * - see notes in Star-Lord analysis)

MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (7:2-8:1)-FB (may be repeated material)
ANNCONQ:Q 3 (3:2)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (8:2-8:3)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (9:1)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (9:2)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 2 (9:3)-FB (may be repeated material)
[...]
ANN 6
ANNCONQ:PRO
ANNCONQ:Q 1 (1-11)
ANNCONQ:Q 3 (3:3-3:4)-FB
ANNCONQ:Q 1 (12-22)
ANNCONQ:Q 2
ANNCONQ:Q 3
ANNCONQ:Q 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 6 (*May be hallucination*)

NOVA/RICHARD RIDER
[...]
ANN:NO 4
NO4 8 (1)-FB
NO4 10-FB (Best guess. As I say, this doesn't seem to fit...)
ANN 1
[...]
NO4 3
ANNCONQ:PRO
NO4 4
NO4 5
NO4 6
NO4 7
NO4 8
NO4 9
NO4 10
NO@ 1
NO4 11
NO4 12
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

NOVA 0001/STELLAR CAPTAIN KO-REL [KREE]
{NO4 4}
NO4 5
NO4 6
NO4 7 (as Worldmind Memory Engram only)

OM-FAD [KREE]
ANNCONQ:PRO

PRAXAGORA [ATARAXIAN]
[...]
ANN 5
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6

QUASAR III/WENDELL ELVIS VAUGHN
[...]
ANN:NO 4
ANNCONQ:Q 4-BTS (NB: ghostly/psychic residue rendered as image of Quasar)
[NO4 17]

QUASAR IV/PHYLA-VELL [TITAN/KREE]
CM6 25
ANNCONQ:Q 1-FB
[...]
ANN 6
ANNCONQ:PRO
ANNCONQ:Q 1
ANNCONQ:Q 2
ANNCONQ:Q 3
ANNCONQ:Q 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

RA-VENN [KREE]
{ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1}
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 6

RAVENOUS
[...]
ANN 6
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2-BTS
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5

ROCKET RACCOON
[...]
S-H2 46
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4
ANNCONQ 1-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 2 (14)|
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

RONAN THE ACCUSER [KREE]
[...]
ANN 6
ANNCONQ:PRO
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1-BTS
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6

SHATTERAX [KREE]
[...]
ANNCONQ 1

SHIP/"CARYTH HAYLAN" [FORMER STAR]
NB: Not to be confused with SHIP/PROFESSOR/PROSH, the X-Factor/Cable character
[...]
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1-FB
(non-Quill Starlord miniseries?)

SIM-DEL [KREE]
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2-FB
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3 (as ghost)
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4 (as ghost)

STAR-LORD/PETER JASON QUILL [HUMAN/SPARTOI]
[...]
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1-FB
[THANOS 8-12] (analysis in Archive 49)
NO4 8 (1)-FB
NO4 10-FB (Best guess. As I say, this doesn't seem to fit...)
[ANN 1-6]
ANNCONQ:PRO
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

SUPER-ADAPTOID [ROBOT]
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 1
ANNCONQ:Q 2
ANNCONQ:Q 3
ANNCONQ:Q 4

SUPER-SKRULL/K'LRT [SKRULL]
[...]
ANN 5
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 6

SUPREME INTELLIGENCE
[...]
ANN 5
ANNCONQ:PRO-VO
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1-BTS |cf ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2-BTS |cf ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3 (as corpse, ghost BTS)
ANNCONQ:Q 1-VO
ANNCONQ:Q 4 ~ ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4 (ghost in Q; corpse, with ghost BTS, in Wraith)

SUSPENSOR [XARTHIAN]
NO4 9 (1-3)-FB
{NO4 8}

TEN-COR [KREE]
ANNCONQ:PRO

TYRO [TECHNARCH]
{NO4 11}
NO4 12
ANNCONQ 6

ULTRON [ROBOT]
[...]
ANNCONQ 5 (1)-FB
[...]
MA 6
ANNCONQ 5 (3)-FB
ANNCONQ 5 (11-13)-FB
ANNCONQ:PRO-BTS (1-29) |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:PRO-BTS (30-43) ~ NO4 4-BTS (1-15) |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1-BTS (1-7) |cf ANNCONQ 1|
NO4 5-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
NO4 6-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1-BTS (8-22) |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
NO4 7
ANNCONQ:Q 1-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:Q 2-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:Q 3-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4-BTS ~ ANNCONQ:Q 4-BTS |cf ANNCONQ 1|
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5 (also in Adam Warlock's body)
ANNCONQ 6 (also in Adam Warlock's body)

UNI-POWER/ENIGMA FORCE/UNI-FORCE [ENERGY-BASED LIFEFORM]
[...]
CU/SS
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 1
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 2
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 3
ANNCONQ:STARLORD 4

WARLOCK II/ADAM WARLOCK
[...]
ANNCONQ:Q 3-BTS (cocoon seen)
ANNCONQ:Q 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5 (Body only; possessed by Ultron)
ANNCONQ 6
[GOTG2 1-FB]

WARLOCK III [TECHNARCH]
[...]
WLOCK4 9
NO4 11 (19:2)-FB
NO4 11
NO4 12
ANNCONQ 6

WRAITH/ZAK-DEL [KREE/EXOLON]
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2-FB
{ANNCONQ:WRAITH 1}
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 2
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 3
ANNCONQ:WRAITH 4
ANNCONQ 1
ANNCONQ 2
ANNCONQ 3
ANNCONQ 4
ANNCONQ 5
ANNCONQ 6

XANDARIAN WORLDMIND [CLASS G COLLECTIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE]
[...]
NO4 3-VO
NO4 4
NO4 5-VO
NO4 6-VO
NO4 7
NO4 8-VO
NO4 9
NO4 10-VO
NO@ 1-VO
NO4 11-VO
NO4 12
ANNCONQ 6-VO
[NO4 13]

XEMNU
[...]
ANNCONQ 1

In flashback only in ANNCONQ:Q 2:
*New Defenders (ANGEL, BEAST, ICEMAN, CLOUD, VALKRYIE, GARGOYLE)
*MENTOR/ALARS
Placements relate to the Moondragon/DotM FBs I can't place.

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Thread 41

Subject: Ghost Rider v6 24-25

Jul 24, 2008 8:04 pm 
By Col_Fury
Director

Ghost Rider v6 #24
August, 2008

Appearances: 
Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze), Deacon, Zadkiel-BTS

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg3-FB: two years ago
The police break into a church where the priest has just killed everyone inside! 
Pg4-pg22: one night
Johnnys in a Texas prison to the surprise of the guards. Meanwhile, another guard, Bob, receives orders from Zadkiel. Johnny chats with the prison warden, which doesnt go well. Bob opens all the cells and a riot ensues. Johnny works his way through the inmates and finds what hes looking for: the priest who killed his congregation two years ago. Elsewhere in the prison Bob frees the Deacon, a big guy covered with religious tattoos. 

References: 
Theres no concrete mention of how much time has passed, but it seems that this picks up fairly recently after the end of last issue. A week? Maybe two? That's completely a stab in the dark. 

Ghost Rider v6 #25
September, 2008

Appearances: 
Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze), Deacon, Zadkiel-BTS

Synopsis: 
Pg1-pg4: same night as last issue
Under orders from Zadkiel, Bob gives Deacon some weapons from the Arc of Bezalel. Meanwhile, the priest explains to Johnny why he killed his congregation; they were killing people in Zadkiels name! 
Pg5pn1(of 6)-FB: two years ago, just before issue 24-FB
The priest opens fire on his congregation. 
Pg5pn2-pg22: same night as pg4
Johnny explains that hes looking for a way into heaven so he can confront Zadkiel, the priest realizes that Johnny is a Spirit of Vengeance and tells him that Zadkiel will come for him.(Zadkiel is working to consolidate the Spirits of Vengeance) Deacon attacks and kills the priest. He and Ghost Rider fight, and the deacon is eventually beaten to death with a bible by the Ghost Rider. Bob kills himself, Ghost Rider uses his penance stare on all the rioting prisoners, the guards storm in to stop the riot to find the unconscious prisoners, and Ghost Rider drives away. 

References: 
None. However, the letters page promises appearances next issue by Dan Ketch, Blackout, Death Ninja, the Orb(!), Doghead, and a surprise! Neat.

-Daron Jensen

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Jul 26, 2008 5:47 am 
By dimadick

"the Orb(!)".

Wonder if they will explain his apparent return from the dead. Orb/Drake Shannon was gunned down by Plantman simulacra in "Solo Avengers" #21 (August, 1989). Hawkeye declared him as deceased. However he made a curious cameo in "Deadline" #2 (July, 2002).

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Jul 27, 2008 9:20 pm 
By SeanCurtin

To be fair, Hawkeye was standing several yards away at the time, never got any closer than that after he was shot, and isn't exactly a trained medical professional. His reaction was basically "The Orb's been shot, he must be dead, I'd better run or I'm dead, too!"
